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"Here's the thing. All of them are going to buy the cereal, whether they like me or hate me."

 

John Cena, demonstrating that he *gets* wrestling better than anyone.

I like John Cena and I didn't buy the cereal.

Yeah the congratulatory tone of much of the coverage of what was a very threatening response to a joke on twitter makes uncomfortable reading. The lad should ring the police.

I think its mainly the fact that he can't dance. It was funny at first seeing this supposed 'monster' come out and dance, but he's shite. He's lost a ton of weight, looks in better shape and is probably having better matches but the dancing is half arsed.

 

Maybe I'm just used comparing him to Rikishi throwing shapes all those years back

Aye. I enjoyed Brodus for a while but the gimmick's so obviously half arsed. He hasn't got better at dancing after a year or more of doing it several times a week.

Agreed. One of the best entrance musics ever I'd say.

 

Triple H's "My Time" takes a lot of beating I'd say. I take it there's been a best theme poll on here countless times?

I'd love to see him come out to that again, just once. I suppose he'll never use it again now; what's it been, 13 years since he last did?

There was a promo video WWE played for one of his comebacks a couple of years ago which featured a remix/mash-up of 'My Time' with 'Time to Play the Game'. It sounded the dog's bollocks. Think I only saw the video once and never heard it referred to again.

Correct. No logical argument whatsoever. Fighting an instinct that's taken hundreds of millions of years to develop might be a bit of a struggle though.

 

EDIT: If they get sterilised or don't want kids, there is also, of course, no logical argument to get married or even get together.

How does this not also apply to gays?

I watched Charlie Brooker's Weekly Wipe last night, which included a section where he criticised people for beign rude about celebrities online. He didn't even include his usual self mocking. I know he hasn't done columns like that for a long time, since he suddenly entered the celebrity world and started feeling guilty, but this felt like a massive swing and a miss in presentation.

I couldn't believe how rubbish the first episode of Weekly Wipe was. Every joke just pitiful, right from the off with that Mali/Marley thing. I've loved every other Screen/News/GameWipe that he's done, even the year in review ones that don't seem to be as well received, but this was painful.

What was Jesse's conspiracy TV show like?

Hokey garbage. His 'team of researchers' included June Sarpong. The one from T4.

I am a little murky on Angle/Sharmell though. Wasn't he just lusting after Sharmell, then Booker stopped him from advancing on her? Hardly drugging her or kidnapping her, although it carries creepy as hell undertones. I could see other shows being similarly creepy... in fact The OC did it, and they targeted young teens, while Smackdown in 05/06 was still more adult orientated for the most part than current WWE.

It was Angle saying that sex with a black woman would constitute 'beastiality sex' that was the real kicker.

Maybe that's true of a minority, but I think most of the anti-Cena sentiment over the years has been sincere. There have been times when close to 100% of the crowd has been against him; they're not all ROH fanboys.

I think there are lots of good reasons to hate him actually. I love the guy about as much as anyone over 12 that you're likely to meet, but whenever he's shared screentime with guys like Austin and Rock its very apparent what a poor imitation of previous company aces he is. He's one of the more cringeworthy performers I've ever seen in any TV format when he tries to do comedy, and even his serious promos that people like to buzz off usually involve him pulling some fucking bizarre faces.

Most of his proper feuds from the last couple of years have been based on a subtext that he's ruined wrestling one way or another (vs Rock, Punk, Lesnar), and there's at least a germ of truth to it.

Thanks for heads up though... I DID enjoy it. Always was a Saturn fan.

Saturn was among the best things in US wrestling in 1996. I don't think he ever had enough to his act to be a big singles star, but he was always great as part of a team or as the enforcer in a stable.

 

Davey Boy would have been celebrating his 50th birthday today (27th Nov).

I'm sorry if this has been posted before but I haven't checked the rest of the thread. Pro Wrestling Off The Air - a fan-made compilation of off-air satellite footage from WWF/E shows.

I'm 18 minutes in so far and it's mainly been stuff from around late 2001. If seeing Austin bullying a cameraman or hearing Lawler and Cole buzzing off Tony Chimel sounds like your idea of fun, you'll love this. I've never seen any of it anywhere else.

I hope Ronnie's Mate's Dad's real name is Johnny. And that he hates Jazz.

Icke's an easy target especially in a thread like this, but he really must be a shitty speaker if he can't express his major points more succinctly than that.

I was in the room for the 9/11-Demos event on the video Ronnie posted. To clarify - the two men speaking at the front are Carl Miller and Jamie Bartlett. They work for a center-left think tank called Demos and had produced a report ('The Power of Unreason') which described how conspiracy rhetoric can be used to recruit previously moderate people to radical causes. The report mentions 9/11 Truth in passing, and notes that it is an example of a non-violent conspiracy movement.

A London-based group of Truthers (evidently run by Ronnie's mate's dad) took the report to be some kind of slander on Truthers, and so invited Miller and Bartlett to speak at a neutral venue, which ended up being Goldsmiths Uni at the behest of a guy doing a PhD on conspiracy theories there. The debate didn't much go anywhere owing to the apparently inability of the Truthers to grasp what the report was really about, and the amusingly partisan chairing of the debate provided by Ronnie's mate's dad.

I kept an eye on the relevant parties for a while afterwards by googling them now and then and came across some right mental shite. There was a youtube video featuring clips from the evening interspersed with (I shit you not) footage of the World Trade Center attacks with Carl Miller and Jamie Bartlett's faces crudely superimposed on to the towers. I recall there was a comment at the bottom saying something like 'I know Miller is a jewish name, and Jamie Bartlett must have trouble standing up straight with a conk that size'.

I also found a blog written by one of the Truthers in attendance in which he talked about going for a drink with Bartlett after the debate and surreptitiously fishing for info about the guy's background. I think it was the same fella who gets called 'an idiot' at the start of Ronnie's video, who also started shouting about how much he loved god towards the end of the meeting (I expect it's captured on the video, I haven't watched it through to the end). Bartlett showed up on the blog's comments and had it out with him, all very strange and entertaining.

I searched for Jamie Bartlett's name on Youtube just now for old time's sake, and the video with his head on WTC1 seems to have been taken down. I did find

+1 for Kwango.

I make no apologies if this has already been posted in this thread.

'Handsome' Jimmy Valiant - The Ballad of Handsome Jimmy. With an introduction from Lance Russell and Boogie Woogie himself.

I just can't wait to hear his new name. I'm thinking George Spiggot.

Why would anybody who doesn't work for WWE Corporate be annoyed at Punk for saying a couple of sincere yet fairly innocuous things at a comic convention? Also - as has been pointed out, similar sentiments have been said in public forums by Vince McMahon and Triple H.

Punk is close to unwatchable at the moment, but its daft to let his on-screen persona colour your perception of things he says out of character. And bellowing about how Triple H has EARNED the right to say things that Punk can't say is precious as fuck.

I've just got myself a job working at a big university for good money doing exactly the kind of work I intended to get into when beginning my degree. I had to go through seven months of pretty intense job-hunting after finishing the degree (reckon I was spending about 25 hours a week at it, on average, alongside my part-time call center job) but the job is sufficient reward to make it seem worthwhile in hindsight.

I imagine I would still be searching for a job now if it wasn't for my participation in the World of Difference programme run by the Vodafone Foundation a couple of years ago, which meant that alongside my degree I had close to a year's experience working for a well-known charity.

The programme pays you (and the charity) a decent (though not lavish) wedge to work there for a few months. It's supposed to be either 2 months full-time or 4 months part-time, but in practise it's quite flexible. I did a kind of 0.8fte schedule for 3 months in the end, and then got taken on at reduced hours at the end of my WOD placement.

I always tell people about it when I hear them struggling to amass the necessary experience to break into their chosen field since I really do think its been crucial to my progress since. The scope of it is very broad, and to win one of the 500 placements they sponsor each year you just have to write a relatively short proposal about your proposed role, its value to the charity in question and its wider value to society. It may have grown a bit since I applied in 2009, but at that time they only received about 1200 applicants for the 500 placements, so the chances of being accepted (not much worse than Evens, at the time) are a fair-sight better than if you were competing with scores of other people for one full time role.

Also - don't be put off if you don't have ambitions to work in the charity sector long term. The programme accepts applications from any registered UK charity and it benefits them to sponsor a diverse range of projects, since at its heart it is a propaganda tool to make people think Vodafone is just swell. Ergo, if you're a bit creative with it, it's nearly always possible to find a role and charity which suits your desired career path. For example my brother has been hoping to break into some kind of writing or publishing job. He didn't end up applying because something else came up, but he approached a disability charity about working as a publishing assistant on their newsletter and the charity was bang up for it.

Just thought I'd share since it doesn't seem to be particularly well-known-about and it definitely gave me a leg-up in a tough jobs market. There's a 'Charity Match-Maker' thing on the WOD website which helps you find charities in your area of interest near you. They don't accept applications until September usually, with most placements starting in the new year, but I imagine there are other similar initiatives if you go looking for them. It's a really good way to get what is essentially a paid internship which makes you look like a socially conscious bastard when listed on your CV. It also has the advantage over conventional internships that you get to largely define your role yourself, as the first step is ringing up your charities of choice and explaining what you'd like to do for them. Alot of charities haven't even heard of the programme, so in my experience it helps to begin the conversation by explaining a little about the programme and emphasising that it doesn't cost the charity a thing.

Hope this is of help to somebody . Picture me typing this from my ass-fuck office in central London for motivation.

[Pinc] wasn't saying "it's definitely 100% a plastic object." He was responding to Astro's comment about the "equal weight" of the two theories.

It probably is a hoax, but one guy's "it's plastic" carries no more weight with me than some other guy's "it's a giant sea monster".

Aye, Junky and Queer are 'normal' novels. Good too - the only Burroughs I've been able to finish, along with a collection of his letters. I've tried Naked Lunch a couple of times but always found it too laborious.

You can't really take someone seriously when they don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

And get Keeno/Miz winning in all of those end of year negative catagories! I wan't a clean sweep!