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37 minutes ago, CavemanLynn said:

Where did the name come from? The lucha one into a pin was named after Huracan Ramirez, with a Rana apparently being that knees on shoulders pin. I assume the Frankensteiner was so called because anyone who survived it needed bolts in their neck afterwards.

Is it not just named after Scott? As in FrankenSTEINER?

17 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

Because she has a lot of respect for the business and those she worked with, so I really don't believe she'd be doing all this stuff without a purpose. She's not perfect but I don't think she'd do that.

She explicitly said she loves the other wrestlers and wrestling. What am I missing?

It doesn’t sound like a work to me. Why would it be?

It was the most self indulgent bit of telly I can remember seeing. Like how all John Lennon’s songs in the 70s would just be about him and his wife and kids without any subtext, even using their names in the songs. But a lot worse because being in love and fathering children are fairly universal experiences, whereas John Cena’s wrestling career is just barmy subject matter for a piece of performance art like this.

What the fuck is the audience if not long-term fans of the Big Show like us?

5 minutes ago, The King of Old School said:

I'm sure it's fine for the audience it's targeting.

Me arse it is, it looks shite.

Don't mean to be a tit and I could naturally listen to Rock talk for hours, but I always think Rock got a bit too much credit for the X8 match. Like, I don't really think he worked as a heel at all. He certainly acts the babyface when he's doing the People's Elbow to finish it, except his head's a bit down because I think he was a bit genuinely pissed off at the response.

I think the story that Rock was really working heel in that match is a bit of a myth which Rock has internalised, rather than having much basis in what actually happened in the match.

I think the Firefly Fun House is genuinely one of the strangest bits of telly ever broadcast.

A dream sequence featuring awkward re-enactments of moments from the on-screen life of WWE superstar John Cena, with numerous references that could only make sense to extremely hardcore wrestling fans, that's supposed to exist in the same universe as ultra-legit athlete Brock Lesnar's super serious title defence moments later. I watched Lesnar/McIntyre in a complete daze because my suspension of disbelief was so broken. I couldn't think of anything other than - why are these men pretending to fight eachother? Why don't they make a film together instead like the last pair?

I am completely floored that anyone would broadcast something so self-referential. I can't think of any other examples in any media. It was proper meta-meta-meta camera turned in on itself post modern madness, but with... John Cena's wrestling career as the subject matter? Why does it exist?

It's not so much that I wasn't entertained, as it made me never want to watch wrestling or any other form of fiction ever again. Six stars from me.

Will this mean the All Japan tape library on the Network (!)?

Matt Hardy is right on the line between talented guy AEW should sign and over the hill, would make them look like the new TNA.

Given they've already got Dustin doing the grizzled veteran shtick, and their experiments with wacky/gothic characters have largely been failures, I think they should probably pass on having him in front of camera.

Mox will be damaged by failing to win thr big one. Have him beat Jericho for the belt, but quickly follow up with Jericho stealing it back via shenanigans. Possibly even that week on Dynamite.

Everton knock back €100m from Barca from Richarlison. Go ed lads.

The reason things from the 90s/2000s/etc seem more recent than did the 60s/70s at that point is that globalisation and digital technology have zombified pop culture in a way that means old forms (at least those which emerged since the advent of mass media in the 50s/60s) never die away in the way that they once did.

Mark Fisher and Simon Reynolds and those boys call it ‘hauntology’. We’re ‘haunted’ by our cultural past through digital media in a way that people in the 90s and before weren’t.

What do yous reckon would have happened if the WWF had properly gotten behind RVD as their new top babyface when he was getting monster reactions in 2001? Maybe by having him become the first Undisputed Champion rather than Jericho, and running with him from there?

Rock and Austin were both close to being done, and Austin wasn't even a babyface at the time. RVD fell into their lap as a guy the crowd loved so much they had to have him as a face in the otherwise heel Alliance, but after the No Mercy triple threat it was clear they weren't serious about him as a top guy and his reactions cooled from there.

A heel Austin putting over a face RVD to make the latter a made man at Mania X8 would have been a much more natural conclusion to the previous year's storylines than the rushed, nigh-on-inexplicable Austin face turn that we got instead.

Would the Saudis really be arsed about Edge?

Ah no film with the Pod Race and the Duel of the Fates could be called boring. It’s clearly flawed but there’s lots of enjoyable set pieces and the world building is great. Roger Ebert gave it the 3.5 out of 4.

Erm, he didn’t win the Rumble.

Yeah Clones is a fucking mess. The other two prequels are actually pretty good, but Clones is all over the place with career worst performances from almost everyone in it.

20 minutes ago, Supremo said:

Ideally, Wrestle Kingdom  will be a huge success this year and Vince will copy them by making Wrestlemania a two-day event in the upcoming years. Two three hour shows on Saturday and Sunday would be far better than one six hour show on Sunday. 

Fucking hell, no thanks. One show of a sane length would be great ta.

2 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

That Liverpool one can't be right, surely, the Scousers didn't vote to leave.

The city as a whole didn’t. But the Walton constituency where both football grounds are voted 52% to Leave. So these figures could be correct if they’re calculated at constituency level.

I remember a hardcore match between Test and Big Boss Man from early 2000 where one of them lowers a garage door on to the throat of the other, but I haven’t seen any evidence it actually happened.

Nowt tops Punk blowing the kiss to Vince in Chicago but some of them run it close. The Daniel Bryan documentaries are going to be great when he’s finished.

Yeah you can find unflattering images of any politician/person. Shouldn’t need pointing out that spreading the false notion that they chose one of those unflattering images to put on the side of their campaign bus is a different thing entirely.

On 12/4/2019 at 7:01 PM, Hannibal Scorch said:

Anyone else think It was Aphex Twin on the side of the Lib Dem’s bus or is it just me?

Going back a few pages but this looks very fake (the lines on the coach are visible over her shoulders/torso but not her face, which has been superimposed), and also rather cruel and small minded. Think before sharing.

Love the idea of Survivor Series performance determining each brand’s number of Rumble entrants. Totally solves the motivation problem.