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1 hour ago, Nostalgia Nonce said:

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/chris-99178053752

A pretty good summation of just how serious the "protest" was.

When I first saw on the news that Trump supporters were storming the Capitol Building I didn't initially hear that they'd managed to evacuate all of the Congress members to a secure location. So when they started talking about shots being fired on the Senate floor my stomach turned and I had to go for a walk with the anxiety of thinking they might be killing politicians. It really doesn't bear thinking about if they'd been successful.

Presumably he'll go to Parler. But Google Store just kicked Parler off and Apple have given them 24 hours to introduce a moderation policy (i.e. to stop being Parler) or they're kicking them too.

Got through about 45 minutes. Jericho is a fucking moron. Like if Joe Rogan was relieved of 50 IQ points, putting him well into negative digits.

5 hours ago, Mr_Danger said:

How mad are Sheff Utd this season? I know they massively over performed last season but the little I’ve seen of them this year they’ve not even been that bad, just incapable of getting anything from a game.

 

Aye a draw would’ve been a fair result for them yesterday but there was a weird inevitability to us getting a goal from somewhere. It wasn’t even that we were creating many chances. They look like goners.

As a child I thought the Conservatives were actually the Conservatories. And that the nickname ‘the Tories’ was an abbreviation of the latter.

Does anyone know if the provenance of the phrase 'Play Up Pompey' has anything to do with the old Frankie Howerd show 'Up Pompeii'?

Like: the remarkably persistent hatred of the Tories even as the rest of the country steps right, the Sun boycott, the historicity of the football grounds and their presence in an otherwise residential part of town.

Loathe: The aggression, the parochialism, how hard it is getting around the place without a car.

Has Randy Orton been on a full time schedule with WWE since 2002 aye? Aside from the occasional injury lay off?

And if so - is it the longest such run anyone's ever had for them? Obviously people like Triple H and Kane have been there longer but they only wrestle very occasionally now. Randy still wrestles most weeks and was still doing house shows when they were on, right?

2 hours ago, WyattSheepMask said:

Appreciate airing on the side of caution with the spoiler tags, but I think that’s common knowledge.

I get that reinventing Bray Wyatt from Swamp Cult Leader to Poor Man’s Pennywise allows them to refeud him with everyone as it’s essentially a different person, but feuding with Orton worked out so well last time I’m amazed they’re doing it again.

I maintain that Orton in the Wyatt family was the most interesting he'd been in years. The feud started well and all it was just that stupid projector match at Mania that sours everyone's memory of it.

22 hours ago, Mr_Danger said:

At what point does supporting Everton stop being about supporting Everton and start being about not supporting Liverpool?

Ha, I just remember the lunacy of that period too well. Felt like all anyone in the city talked about for ages. To see it used to score points on another team now that the details have faded from memory gets my goat.

3 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

You're kinder and more hopeful than I am!

If United don't do something then, at best, they're massive hypocrites. As for Cavani, it's just staggering. As a Uruguayan who has played with Suarez at international level dozens of times and therefore must have been aware of the Evra incident and the furore around it, it's absolutely mind-boggling that he said that. Even more so because he's playing for the club of the player who was abused! It's absolutely infuriating and depressing. Cavani is a fucking idiot.

Bollocks they are. The FA's ruling on Suarez acknowledged that 'Negrito' and 'Negro' can be used as affectionate terms between friends in Uruguay and other parts of Latin America. Which is what Cavani was clearly doing.

In complete contrast to that - Suarez angrily and mockingly told Evra not to touch him as he doesn't touch Negritoes. Then pinched Evra's skin and repeated the word to him several times antagonistically. LFC/Dalglish tried to make the whole affair about whether 'Negrito' is equivalent to the N word in English, which it isn't, but this was a pure confidence trick to try and avoid the ban. Suarez was banned for the context in which he used the word. By way of analogy - its not offensive for me to call someone 'black' per se, but if I angrily told a black person that I don't touch blacks and then mockingly repeated the word to them any reasonable person would recognise I was being racially antagonistic.

Relevant part of the FA decision below, hopefully common sense prevails in the Cavani case:

5 hours ago, BomberPat said:

Assuming that the Undertaker send-off stuff wasn't pre-recorded and actually happened on the same night as the rest of it, it feels a missed opportunity to have had Rikishi there and not involve him in the Roman Reigns story. You're going to do backstage segments where Roman complains at the Usos and calls himself head of the family, and their dad is just going to sit back and let him get on with it? I just think it would flesh out the story more by incorporating the broader family, even in brief cameos.

Ah yeah great shout. A backstage segment where Roman punked out the always-lovable Big Kish would've been great. Would be great heel work if Jey had to take Roman's side over his Dad's.

4 hours ago, Ralphy said:

Brock is amazing yea, i recall him always being good at the few comedy segments he has done, on his first, and second run. He strikes me as someone who is actually a genuine good guy with a good brain to milk every last dollar out of WWE and UFC.

 

He's an avowed homophobe like.

23 minutes ago, David said:

I actually think that he'll be banking on Twitter and other social platforms censoring him. His entire presidency has been built on the notion that big tech, the media with its "fake news" and so forth are doing their best to destroy the good ol' working man of America while pandering to elites. 

Eh, I suppose so. But the same is true for Alex Jones and a whole ecosystem of lesser ghouls, and de-platforming them off the big social media sites seems to have worked in limiting their influence. I think its an under-acknowledged factor in Trump's election defeat actually. If Trump wants to play brinksmanship with Twitter's Ts&Cs he may well end up regretting it.

No one expects Trump to disappear. He's essentially the most famous human being who ever lived at this point, and certainly the most famous alive. That won't go away over night, especially as Biden's victory fell short of an unequivocal repudiation of Trump or Trumpism.

What will change when he leaves office is the media's obligation to cover everything he says. He'll certainly continue making a lot of noise, and you'd imagine Fox will dance to his tune for a while longer. But the other networks seem tired of him, and genuinely repentant about the role they played in giving him free "earned" publicity in the early days of his 2016 campaign. Giving him and his events undue prominence because the freak show attracted viewers in large numbers, and thereby contributing to his rise.

His removal from office also removes his freedom from censure by Twitter, who have been extremely lenient with him on the grounds that as the leader of the free world it would be anti-democratic to suspend or ban him from their platform. As a regular citizen he'll fall foul of their Terms & Conditions pretty quickly if he continues his familiar unrestrained style. I don't think he'd just jump to another platform like Parler either. The presence he's built for himself on Twitter will be impossible to reproduce elsewhere and he and his people will surely recognise that. He needs Twitter more than Twitter needs him.

So certainly he's not going away completely. He'll remain a Republican figurehead and there's a chance he runs again in 2024. But there are good reasons to expect his reach to be much diminished by losing the Presidency.

10 hours ago, Factotum said:

One of the most interesting things I heard about the Biden campaign, was they were ordered not to look at Twitter throughout as it gives this distorted image of the world. They stood with their goals and did not look at any criticism/positive enforcement throughout.

Hey do you have a source for this? It is indeed very interesting but I had no luck Googling it (possibly because including 'Twitter' in the search terms just brings up a load of tweets).

1 hour ago, Merzbow said:

Is it really a balance or would it just be adding bullshit from another angle? I really think it'd be difficult to find many people who wouldn't have their own agenda on either side.

Who in wrestling is impartial about Vincent K McMahon?

You think they should just stick to Vince’s inner circle then? 

Oh, good.

That ball-licking interview with Trump Jr on Jericho's podcast should disabuse anyone who thinks Chris is any kind of serious person.

On 10/22/2020 at 12:43 PM, Carbomb said:

One reason to be wary is, as someone pointed out on Al Jaz (and I'm sure others have pointed out elsewhere), "shy Republicans", like we had "shy Tories" here.

The numbers of shy Trump voters would have to be pretty astronomical to undo Biden’s lead.

I think a lot of people are once bitten twice shy after 2016. Biden is absolutely winning this barring either an unprecedented turn in the polls in the final week or pretty widespread vote suppression by the Republicans, though again this would have to be on such a scale to imperil the result that I don’t think its plausible.

Even the worries about the Supreme Court deciding a tight race in Trump’s favour seem unfounded after they ruled in favour of Trans rights to the Republicans’ consternation several months ago. The bottom line is Trump has blown it and there’s no plausible way back.

13 hours ago, AshC said:

If they'd had a Road Wild PPV in the 80s and booked 'Harley Race' as an attraction, you'd have ended up with a lot of angry bikers.

Haha, having that.

1 hour ago, Cod Eye said:

Everton look a goalkeeper and a bit of squad depth off being a sold top 4 contender. A lad I know who supports them said there was talk amongst their fans of the potential of "doing a Leicester", but that is just wishful thinking on their part. Be interesting if they can keep James fit and Calvert-Lewin can carry this form on though...

We actually have decent depth everywhere except in goal, I'd say. We've been stockpiling attacking mids for years, so while the likes of Walcott, Iwobi, Bernard, Sigurdsson, Bolasie weren't good enough as starters to get us above mid-table they do constitute a serviceable roster of back-ups for Richarlison/James/Doucoure behind the striker. We seem to be on the verge of signing Godfrey from Norwich which would give us 4 very decent centre halves with the young Branthwaite behind them and players like Digne and Coleman both having shown themselves capable there in an emergency. Delph, Davies and Gbamin (if he ever resurfaces) is fine cover for Allan and Gomes.

Despite all my Evertonian instincts urging caution we do look a bit dangerous this year. If we sign Romero this week I'll be very optimistic.

2 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

Aren't judgements better formed by actually watching something than just reading it and declaring it THE WORST EPISODE EVER! THIS IS WHY I DON'T WATCH WWE!

Not saying that every single episode is better based on sitting through it, but a fairer conclusion can be drawn from actually seeing it play out on screen I think. Certainly gives a lot more context etc.

Who the fuck has time to actually watch wrestling now. We're all in our 30s and up. We've all watched thousands of hours of this shite. If you can't get a good sense of what something is from a few context clues at this point you've basically wasted your entire life.

18 hours ago, TomJones233 said:

Is it as best for business as Vince hiring the nWo to inject the WWF with a 

LETHAL 

DOSE

OF

POISON 

That had storyline reason for it though. Vince was so upset about Flair owning half the company he wanted to destroy it.

This is just dreadful, lazy writing.

1 hour ago, DavidB6937 said:

No one will ever enjoy wrestling if they start thinking about the camera stuff logically.

Like the other week on Smackdown where Cesaro/Nakamura didn't want Zayn in on their 'private' conversation which they were having on camera.

Because wrestling.

It hasn't always been like this though. The shows are much more immersive if they're internally consistent. Its just laziness.

If they want special shaky cam footage just for Retribution have Retribution upload it to social, the main shows can play it the following week saying it was circulating online. Just a little bit of thought to preserve the viewer's suspension of disbelief. Literally all fictional TV has to think about internal consistency.