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4 hours ago, Your Fight Site said:

I’m almost embarrassed to ask this. What was the deal with wrestling on World of Sport? I know it carried footage from Joint Promotions and All-Star Wrestling, but what was the actual commercial deal? Did those promotions have deals with ITV to record shows for broadcast? Or did ITV just turn up at shows and record them for a magazine-style show?

Basically, were ITV completely independent and recorded the shows they wanted to? Or did Joint/All-Star have obligations to provide content?

You should be embarrassed. Imagine not knowing the break down of a terrestrial tv contract negotiated (presumably) before you were born.

Hang your head in shame sir!

Oh used to drive me mad with Osprey matches:

He's on the top rope - phoenix splash
 

He's on the top rope - Shooting Star Press

Dude - your finisher is a 630 - why didn't you just hit that the first two times?!

3 minutes ago, Gordon_The_Gopher said:

*Searches for gif of Earthquake catching Big Boss Man from a top rope crossbody*

Watched that match recently - the ease with which he catches him is staggering.

I think the idea was it was alluded to in that awesome sit down promo before the show "I need to beat you rock, I need that more than anything in the world".

But yeah agree it doesn't quite land.

Lex Luger - another obvious one. One week he's The Narcissist who's cheating to win matches with a metal plate in his arm (love shit like that, always give me D'Lo in the chest protector).  Then all of a sudden he's Mr America and on the bus. Such a punchable face - genuinely hated him. Echoing the Tatanka love - he was my boy and believed him when he said Lex was crooked.

 

On 6/22/2020 at 11:24 AM, HarmonicGenerator said:

Balor vs. Zayn main evented the NXT house show in Newcastle when they toured the UK. It was good!

I actually can't think of a thing Zayn has done in his whole WWE tenure that he hasn't got the absolute most out of. 

Why they seem to want to sideline him as a manager (where he still shines) is beyond me.

5 hours ago, Shane O' Mac Version 2 said:

Kane is the biggest one that jumps out at me. I loved the Big Red Machine up until around 2004. It wasn't the unmasking that did it- I actually really enjoyed the first few months of that and the Shane feud. It was the returning Undertaker that basically destroyed Kane for me. It gets kinda glossed over because it was all about Taker returning to his iconic gimmick, but in that feud and Mania match, Kane was made to look about as credible as Zack Ryder. Then they plugged him into a world title match with Benoit at Bad Blood 2004, which happened in the midcard while the REAL main event was the HHH vs. HBK Cell match.

Ever since then, every time Kane has been the world title challenger, I can't help but groan. His mere presence threw a quick bucket of cold water over the title reigns of Seth Rollins and Daniel Bryan. Nothing to do with his talent (even though he definitely was past it in those examples), but 2004 really killed Kane's credibility as a main eventer IMO.

I have a theory about that Bad Blood title match. Watch the battle Royal where he wins the shot on raw. I’m convinced Jericho is supposed to win and gets eliminated by accident.

So . . . Bryan and Styles are pretty damn good at what they do in there. Got to be the best match I’ve seen in the empty arena setting from either promotion so far. (I mean in ring - not the Boneyard and what have you)

It depends what you read - some say Sid vs Taker was always the plan just not for the belt. But then you’d have had a white hot Steve Austin doing nothing of real note.

I think I’m right in saying that if he Shawn has worked Bret at Mania 13 then Taker was losing to someone? I can’t remember who.

I actually feel pretty sorry for Edge and Orton. Like what are they supposed to do? It's like the Simpsons movie - they could deliver something perfectly decen now and loads of people will still shit on it because of that stupid tag line. 

2 minutes ago, bigfoote said:

I may be totally wrong but wasn't the pop due to local sports team being bought by somewhere else...I'm thinking a Wimbledon/MK Dons situation.

I can tell you - doing gigs in Wimbledon and being from Milton Keynes will get you far more heat than those two got. 

9 hours ago, gmoney said:

Scott Steiner's flipping powerslam is utterly incredible and ridiculous. It looks like he might kill himself doing it. I think he did stop because he landed on his head too many times. 

 

Love Scott but hate that move.

Its in that category of being more dangerous yet looking less impactful than a regular power slam. Plus crowd didn’t give a shite. 

Crowd going absolutely ape shit for Roddy winning the IC title here:

I suffer with depression . . . I eat carbs . . . I don't denigrate other races.

1 minute ago, dopper said:

Whenever Zelina Vega or any other females not in wrestling attire come out wearing flat shoes instead of high heels, it telegraphs that they are going to get physically involved in some way.

 

I liked how Francine & Dawn Marie back in the ECW days would take off their high heels before getting involved, as it made it less obvious ahead of time. But besides Mickie James doing a couple of spots wearing them over the years none of the current WWE females think to do anything to disguise it.  

Interesting world to live in if you think very woman not wearing high heels is about to attack you.

1 hour ago, IronSheik said:

I just watched the mid 90s match between Owen Hart and Shawn Michaels where they work a mysterious head injury and black out of HBK in the middle of the match which brings it to a premature end.

Owen and Jim Cornette work it very authentically. Commentator Vince takes off the headset and enters the ring then medical staff. Good execution from all concerned.

Except Hebner - who of course just kicks Michaels a few times to see if he'll wake up.

There’s no way they’re doing a nation gimmick in the current climate. 

I was flying out to do a gig in Hamburg and all of the Raw roster were at the airport - not sure where they were going. 

I was eating breakfast and looked over to my left and all 3 of the Shield lads were standing there. Unfortunately as I always travel in sweat pants / shorts and ratty clothes I was wearing an old Progress Wrestling t-shirt - so looked like the worst kind of smarky airport stalker.

However - this turned to my advantage when I was in the Lego shop and I heard an Irish voice saying "Cool shirt man" and turned round to have a brief chat with Finn Balor. Yes Finn in a lego shop - pretty on brand. He was super nice.

13 hours ago, Suplex Sinner said:

Boxers and y fronts? 

Making the Undi-Taker a very different gimmick

5 hours ago, ElCece said:

I'm sure there is something along the lines of Tyler Black vs Bryan Danielson vs Kevin Steen somewhere but none of them are Eddie Guerrero so automatically it wouldn't match up.

Fuck me a Daniel Bryan vs Eddie Guerrero match would have been something. Heel Eddie was always amazing

20 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

Because dopper can't be arsed linking to it!

 

Eddie Guerrero wins the WWE title just 2 years after this. Mad.

I wonder if any Indy can match a main event where all 3 guys would later go on and win the WWE title. 

33 minutes ago, Snitsky's back acne said:

Wasn't there something on a shoot interview series where Hornswaggle or someone said Sheamus was a massive dick. I dunno if that was an inside joke or something.

I'd have to say William Regal for me. Apart from the Knight family I have never heard anyone say anything bad about him. 

LOVE Regal but can't imagine he was great to be around during the drug problems

Sheamus always seems like a sound guy - can't remember anyone saying anything bad about him.

Not sure if they're liked by everyone but I'd imagine spending the day with Gallows and Anderson is a good laugh.

2 hours ago, FelatioLips said:

On the other side of the fence though, The Montreal Screwjob was indirectly responsible for killing Owen Hart and ending Bret's career, which in the grand scheme of things I would say weigh heavier than the positives. There's no chance Bret would have let Owen do the rafter thing if he was still there, and it's arguable Owen wouldn't have even been the Blue Blazer at that time if Bret was still there.

It's a neat little pocket of history but it's tough to dismiss the indirect implications it had.

Well no because Bret didn’t leave because of the Montreal Screw job. The Montreal screw job happened because he left.