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Would be a shame, but she's such a character now she could easily stay on TV, if she's able, and still contribute.

The other good thing is that although she is champion, a vacation of the belt isn't coming at the worse time with the draft around the corner, they can easily shuffle the women around a bit to make it still work. 

They definitely need to update the WWE Title, looked far too big on Cody, just didn't fit or suit him at all.

In contrast, Priest looked boss walking down with the World Title.

I mentioned the other day I was fascinated by what the reaction would be to Cody and, unfortunately, it's gone the way I expected. Out of the four of them in the match he received the most boos and it was constant throug his big spots.

It's so frustrating, it finally felt like we had a genuine baby face the fans had united behind and it was so fun, I'm hoping its just because Rock was in the match and if he isn't involved as much tonight then we'll still get that great crowd reaction crowning Cody.

As it is, I suspect it'll be a half and half split between him and Roman and they'll have to mask the boos with crowd sweetening/fireworks/music at the end and just pray the crowd stick with him when we get past WrestleMania next week.

Or they just have Austin come out to help him and the crowd will be going batshit crazy and we can pretend it's all down to Cody.

Christ, this show made me even more bummed for night two.

Lashleys lot against Kross, LA Knight vs AJ and Bayley v Iyo are just dead matches. The video package for the women was good, but the fued itself has been poor

The two World Title matches really need to deliver as Sunday is a dreadful card overall 

Rocks grandmother going in last was bullshit like, I know it's only the hall of fame so it's nothing to take too seriously, but come on man, that's the headline spot. Heyman should have and deserved that.

Her even going in is a stretch but headlining is shitty.

Fascinated to see the reaction to Cody here, especially night 2. Like initially he was still over like rover, and he is, but he has been getting a few boos recently and he does feel like a lot cooler than last year.

The Rock being how amazing he's been hasn't helped obviously, but when it comes down to it on Sunday night, and if he does win the belt, I really hope the WrestleMania fans are fully unified behind him and it's a proper insane baby face coronation.

Decent show, predictable, In a good way, end with Cody and then Roman coming back.

The night 2 card looks dreadful compared to night 1. 6 matches and one of them being Lashleys mob against Karrion Cross. Going to be a slog that show.

Most honest take yet on the McMahon stuff too, I'd advise people to seek out the interview itself as it hits better rather than posting quotes in here, but it was refreshing to hear Punk be honest about the Vince situation and he comes across very well with it.

Tony Khan is going to have one of his coked up twitter meltdowns to end all meltdowns with the other stuff he's gone on about.

At this point they may as well sack off Roman and do Cody/Rock night 2 - Cody can win the belt at Backlash or something. 

Phenomenal angle, Cody/Rock is the match.

The problem they've created is that because The Rock has turned it on so much he's made everyone realise what a proper superstar looks like.

I actually really like Cody and Roman, but they don't compare to The Rock when he's on it like he has been since they pivoted. He's a megastar and it's shown the current crop up.

He'll be back for the next few weeks and the crowd's will be mental again.

Obviously if Rock had never got involved then the crowd would be well up for the Cody/Roman stuff, but to get a taste of Rock in the form he's in to then go back to these just doesn't compare.

It's a shame, as obviously it's been thr story and Cody is great, as is Roman, and when Rocks gone again after WrestleMania they'll be carrying it again, and after a few weeks the magic will be back, but its had a massive affect now.

7 minutes ago, Statto said:

I'd just like to weigh in and say that I absolutely do think Jimmy vs Jey is a singles match worthy of a WrestleMania card. Even if it were still a one nighter. 

They're a genuine top 5 all time WWE tag team IMO, legit twin brothers facing off for the first time in a singles match off the back of a months-long simmering feud, as part of a years-long overarching storyline (around which the entire company has been built, basically). It's unquestionably worthy of any WrestleMania card, for me. 

 

It is, 100%, however they definitely need to heat it up a bit. All of what you said is true, but we're 3 weeks out and it doesn't feel that big at all. They've hardly interacted in months and it's only the last couple weeks anything has happened. Its cold at the minute if you watch the weekly shows.

This is where it benefits just watching the PPVs, WWE are so good with the video packages it'll feel like the biggest match ever, which it should, but watching week to week it doesn't.

The Moana line at the end was great, proper wanker heel delivery of it as well.

The Rock is so fucking good man, it just shows when he's up for it he's on another level and always has been.

Agree that Rock v Cody is the match now like, they're going to have to go some way to make Reigns not look like an afterthought, which ro be fair I'm sure they will once Heyman gets going etc, it's just a shame Rock isn't going to be around much again soon.

Whatever it is that's happened or not happened, it'll all end up being Megan and Harry's fault in the end. Either way it doesn't look good for Corbyn.

The whole thing really has been building to Gable beating Gunther. Its felt like one of them old fashioned WrestleMania stories that started in November ish last year, Gable was chasing Gunther, lost in the first instance but kept going.

The whole build up to the match on RAW with Gables promos etc, it all pointed and made sense to him being the one to challenge and finally beat Gunther after all his work.

Sami has only just entered the story so I can completely understand why those watching week in week out aren't behind Sami in this instance, it shouldn't be his match.

Very minor RAW spoiler below, put it in tags just in case

To be fair its one of those decent sleeper PPVs between Rumble and Mania that will end up being pretty good.

It's basically a set up show for WrestleMania and the sort of card/show I envisioned us getting more of when the Network first started as like a network special.

The fact its in a stadium though is mental, like they know it'll sell out anyway, but seems mad. Saying that it will make the atmosphere a lot better than this card being in the US.

It is what it is, it's not meant to be a super show or anything, jjst something to keep us going and build some angles/matches for WrestleMania. I imagine it'll deliver above expectations based on the card, but below based on it being a stadium show.

46 minutes ago, The King Of Swing said:

I'm hoping Danielson has a super respectful match against Akiyama, and shakes his hand afterwards. Obviously while ghosting Kingston in the process. 

He'll be foaming at the mouth. 

Let's hope so or FTR will be fuming

"Recovering" alcoholic Les isn't he? Not to be that guy and ruin the fun but not great hearing of him like this 

Must admit my first thought was the same as the "pervs on social media" as you put it as I've never heard of him, but what you've said there about Kingston makes sense. Hopefully they address that before the match and explain it so people like me can get more into it/understand why its happening.

I must admit, I've been a big critic in relation to matches for the sake of matches in AEW and too much happening on their social media channels that if you only watch the TV you just don't see, but they have been a lot better recently. It's still not perfect, let's be honest nothing in life is, but I'm a lot more invested now than I have been for months.

I don't want much more than they're giving, I just want to see more of the 30 second promos on TV rather than just the socials (which they have been doing) and just more of an explanation as to why something is happening. I understand I'm not the intended audience, never watched Japanese wrestling, no nothing about it or the CMLL guys etc, but give me a bit of story and I'm fine with it.

Like I say it's a lot better so this isn't an anti AEW post at all, and like I say what you said makes perfect sense why the match Is happening, so either way I know now, but they need ro hammer it home on TV. They probably will but I'm just saying it as a general point.

2 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

So the biggest heel at the minute is someone working heel in the main event of Wrestlemania, and somehow that's a bad thing?

Didn't say it was a bad thing, but what I mean is if ever there's an example of someone that so obviously isn't a heel, playing a heel, then that's the one. And let's be honest, the reason people hate him isn't because he's now playing a heel on TV.

Builds into my wider point mind, heels in pro wrestling still work but it's different heat because we know they're not really wankers. Well, most of them.

The art of the conventional heel of the old days is long dead, I mean based on this forum the biggest heel going at the minute is the bloody Rock.

I think now kayfabe is long long dead, people just want to enjoy wrestling, and having a good heel helps with that but they don't really hate them.

People hate heels because they're heels I think a lot of the time these days. Like the Dom Mysterio stuff, you can see when people are booing them they're smiling ear to ear, it's part of rhe act, its fun.

The closest we get is probably Logan Paul currently, but even he has his fans, when he hands out a bottle of prime people are loving it.

Bucks are doing some good stuff in AEW currently, nut they note hated hated.

Your main heels are where there's just no reaction because they're shit, see Baron Corbin, but most of the time we all know it's part of the act and you just go along with it.

Wish FTR would just fuck off, a real blight on Collision for me, been enjoying AEW a lot recently but these two marks do my head in. Cash should be prosecuted soon I imagine so they'll dissappear then thankfully.

Let's hope Mox and Claudio remember to shake their hands after their match otherwise there'll be plenty more tears

If I didn't know better and Triple H's heart wasn't fucked, then I'd swear after that opening segment we're getting one more round of Rock v Triple H at WrestleMania

It was just one scene and obviously there's loads of story to tell, but Roman looked like an absolute chump last night.

Rock stepping up to defend the family and him, Rock giving all the smack talk, looking much bigger than Roman etc. Then at the end when they walked off together you've got Rock strutting through and Roman trailling behind him.

Romans been presented as an absolute megastar since he came back and went heel, last night he just looked like Rocks little brother, the real star has turned up now and that aura was gone.

Like I say it was just one night, hopefully over the next few weeks he still comes across well, but if he keeps being together with Rock he comes across inferior, if they were against each other it would be different but together, Romans just the lackey for the big man

We could have moustache Hangman and moustache Bucks with all the gold after Revolution. The three of them back together as proper heels would be quite something.