Paid Members Ron Simmons Posted April 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 Sorry for the lack of input today, lots of uni work to catch up on that I missed with my broken leg - I'll try catch up later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members unfitfinlay Posted April 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 Bus myself? wat. If I were bussing myself, I'd just admit to being mafia and that'd be the end of it.  I misread who was the next largest wagon.  The point of bussing yourself is to make your scum buddies look like confirmed town. If you flat out say "I'm scum, lynch me" then it's blatantly obvious what you're trying to do and everyone on your wagon looks suspicious, which completely defeats the point.  I read something you posted as either you where questioning whether he was not paying attention or that in fact SMS wasn't the role cop but another scum member was but I don't have time at the moment to go back and pick it out but I will do later today or tomorrow. Also if you are not pushing the Nexus lynch of the slip what are you doing trying to use the Nexus "slip" to force a lynch on Ron because you otherwise are splitting the vote unless you make it clear that that is something for follow up tomorrow.  I've just re-read all my posts from this phase and I honestly can't see it. I think I might've said Nexus wasn't paying attention in regards to keeping his random vote on you throughout the first day but that would've been on day two. I don't remember questioning SMS' rolecop claim at all, certainly not after Snake's flip confirmed it anyway because that would've been dumb.  You do make a valid point about me splitting the vote though. I'm possibly just getting a wee bit ahead of myself and overcomplicating things unnecessarily. My theory about Ron and Tom hinges on the belief that Nexus is scum so I'll switch my vote to him. If he does flip scum then I can follow up on who he is aligned with tomorrow.  UNVOTE  VOTE NEXUS  To everybody else, if we miss lynch today and the night actions all go against us then it's game over. If you've noticed anything suspicious at all or have any theories then post them. There is no point holding anything back at this stage. We've got three days left and the last thing we want is a repeat of the last phase where we ended up with only two viable wagons and they were both town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia Scum Scum Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I would just like to add that I have work then off to pub to watch the Man Utd / Chelsea Champions League game on Wednesday. Â I will also be doing the same on Tuesday as it is Spurs / Real Madrid. Â If I am unable to get online before work, I won't be able to get online at all, so this could affect our votes. Â Am I the only one who won't be online at those times? Â Mod Question: If there are a few of us watching the footy is there any chance of a deadline extension? Â If not, whatever my vote is on Monday night, will most probably have to be my final and confirmed vote for this day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted April 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 Well I say all of us, but one of us has been so quiet and added nothing when he has posted , that I still have no opinion on him and can only remember his reasons for not posting being work related. Considering how long this game has been going, I expect more input from fellow players, but if you can't input more just actual say something worthwhile when you post.  He is not lynchable just yet, but I am not letting him think he is getting a free ride this late in the game, so sort yourself out Carbomb.  FOS: Carbomb  Well, if that's not OMGUS , I don't know what is. You really don't remember anything other than my reasons for not posting, except that in the very same post, I declared that I suspected you for (1) claiming it was "proven" that you weren't Scum, and (2) outing people's power roles, which is pretty anti-Town? Seeing as you actually answered me to deny your Scumminess, I'd say you're taking me out of context to try and trump up a lynch. More of your shoehorning tactics, methinks, and I told you: I'm not letting you get away with that this time, so I'll ask you again: what do you hope to gain from outing bristep the way you've tried to? What makes you think the Scum couldn't take advantage of such information if you're Town (and I'm thinking you're probably not)?  FOS SMS  As it is, though, unfitfinlay's spot about Nexus' slip was very good indeed, and Nexus hasn't exactly been forthcoming with a decent answer, so:  Vote: Nexus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia Scum Scum Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Well I say all of us, but one of us has been so quiet and added nothing when he has posted , that I still have no opinion on him and can only remember his reasons for not posting being work related. Considering how long this game has been going, I expect more input from fellow players, but if you can't input more just actual say something worthwhile when you post.  He is not lynchable just yet, but I am not letting him think he is getting a free ride this late in the game, so sort yourself out Carbomb.  FOS: Carbomb  Well, if that's not OMGUS , I don't know what is. You really don't remember anything other than my reasons for not posting, except that in the very same post, I declared that I suspected you for (1) claiming it was "proven" that you weren't Scum, and (2) outing people's power roles, which is pretty anti-Town? Seeing as you actually answered me to deny your Scumminess, I'd say you're taking me out of context to try and trump up a lynch. More of your shoehorning tactics, methinks, and I told you: I'm not letting you get away with that this time, so I'll ask you again: what do you hope to gain from outing bristep the way you've tried to? What makes you think the Scum couldn't take advantage of such information if you're Town (and I'm thinking you're probably not)?  FOS SMS  As it is, though, unfitfinlay's spot about Nexus' slip was very good indeed, and Nexus hasn't exactly been forthcoming with a decent answer, so:  Vote: Nexus  I don't remember that exact thing, but there has been a lot said in this game, so it is hard to remember what has been said and by who.  I wanted Bristep to share some info, as you know that I am still pushing for us to all reveal our roles ands any info we may have, as I feel that is the best way of getting through this day and being able to make the right choice.  Bristep has already said I can reveal his role, but won't unless he insists I do so or we all have a mass reveal, but looking at how he has played the game and knowing his role I do believe he is town and he is the only player who I feel I can trust at the moment.  In regards to scum taking advantage of any info we have, well they already know more than us, so if we reveal any info we just have to make sure we check our facts and work it out correctly and scum will probably slip up and we will lynch them.  I feel this late on in the day that it now might be too late for everyone to reveal and share results, plus if we survive the night scum will have the whole night discussion to come up with a strategy to cover this, so that is one of the reasons why I have been pushing this so hard today.  There was a good chance they had not come up with a cover story, they can't discuss during the day, we get info on roles and results which should hopefully narrow down our scum search and lead to our lynch.  I honestly don't understand why I am the only one who wanted this, especially as it has been pointed out, that if we slip up overnight it could be game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted April 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 The reason why people don't want to mass role-claim unnecessarily, and this probably includes any MS game ever, is that it's not a good idea: aside from the superior numbers in voting, the little info that Scum don't have access to is one of the few advantages Town has - why would we want to give it away so easily? Scum have more than enough info, you want to gift them the win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia Scum Scum Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I just feel we have very little to go on. Â We have had no solid reason to vote for or lynch anybody during this game. Â Apart from Snakes role reveal, where he was already close to lynch, the only reasons we have voted or lynched anyone is for silly little reasons. Â I would rather have some facts to work with, even if that means giving scum info, because I feel confident enough that we can use the information to our advantage. Â We have to agree to disagree on this point, but it is all totally pointless anyhow, as it is not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia Scum Scum Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Forgot to add, what is the point in having info if we are possibly on our last day, then not sharing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Mike Castle Posted April 3, 2011 Author Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 Mod Question: If there are a few of us watching the footy is there any chance of a deadline extension? As before, no extensions will be granted. There's a full 7 days to decide to lynch someone, and that can happen as early/late in the timeframe as people wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia Scum Scum Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Well I am watching Wrestlemania tonight, day off tomorrow, so will get back online tomorrow afternoon / night and make my final decision on who gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlightmagnet1 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I have to concur with unfitfinley, the slip did seem silly to me to put rolecop in the post and then forget what SMS was. I'm still not completely sold on power role claims but this does seem more telling to me. Â I'm close to a vote but I won't until I've gone through this thread in a better head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members swiftstrike Posted April 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 Bus myself? wat. If I were bussing myself, I'd just admit to being mafia and that'd be the end of it.  I misread who was the next largest wagon.  The point of bussing yourself is to make your scum buddies look like confirmed town. If you flat out say "I'm scum, lynch me" then it's blatantly obvious what you're trying to do and everyone on your wagon looks suspicious, which completely defeats the point.  I read something you posted as either you where questioning whether he was not paying attention or that in fact SMS wasn't the role cop but another scum member was but I don't have time at the moment to go back and pick it out but I will do later today or tomorrow. Also if you are not pushing the Nexus lynch of the slip what are you doing trying to use the Nexus "slip" to force a lynch on Ron because you otherwise are splitting the vote unless you make it clear that that is something for follow up tomorrow.  I've just re-read all my posts from this phase and I honestly can't see it. I think I might've said Nexus wasn't paying attention in regards to keeping his random vote on you throughout the first day but that would've been on day two. I don't remember questioning SMS' rolecop claim at all, certainly not after Snake's flip confirmed it anyway because that would've been dumb.  You do make a valid point about me splitting the vote though. I'm possibly just getting a wee bit ahead of myself and overcomplicating things unnecessarily. My theory about Ron and Tom hinges on the belief that Nexus is scum so I'll switch my vote to him. If he does flip scum then I can follow up on who he is aligned with tomorrow.  UNVOTE  VOTE NEXUS  To everybody else, if we miss lynch today and the night actions all go against us then it's game over. If you've noticed anything suspicious at all or have any theories then post them. There is no point holding anything back at this stage. We've got three days left and the last thing we want is a repeat of the last phase where we ended up with only two viable wagons and they were both town. that the post I was talking about I thought you were hinting that you thought Nexus had forgotten the claim but I guess I read to much into it as you didn't implicitly state that. But I notice you first agree with my point about splitting the vote and then take you vote off Ron who had three votes and placed in on Nexus who had 1 votes to make it 2 each so you claim to agree with me and then your action is for the opposite. Why is that? Also if you pushing the theory that Ron and Tom are bussing Nexus, then it is likely that Nexus is not a power scum role surely the vote should go against the likely power scum role in either Ron or Tom in your theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members swiftstrike Posted April 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 I have to concur with unfitfinley, the slip did seem silly to me to put rolecop in the post and then forget what SMS was. I'm still not completely sold on power role claims but this does seem more telling to me. Â I'm close to a vote but I won't until I've gone through this thread in a better head What are you reading that the slip means though? If it is a slip what has the slip revealed to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members unfitfinlay Posted April 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 Bus myself? wat. If I were bussing myself, I'd just admit to being mafia and that'd be the end of it.  I misread who was the next largest wagon.  The point of bussing yourself is to make your scum buddies look like confirmed town. If you flat out say "I'm scum, lynch me" then it's blatantly obvious what you're trying to do and everyone on your wagon looks suspicious, which completely defeats the point.  I read something you posted as either you where questioning whether he was not paying attention or that in fact SMS wasn't the role cop but another scum member was but I don't have time at the moment to go back and pick it out but I will do later today or tomorrow. Also if you are not pushing the Nexus lynch of the slip what are you doing trying to use the Nexus "slip" to force a lynch on Ron because you otherwise are splitting the vote unless you make it clear that that is something for follow up tomorrow.  I've just re-read all my posts from this phase and I honestly can't see it. I think I might've said Nexus wasn't paying attention in regards to keeping his random vote on you throughout the first day but that would've been on day two. I don't remember questioning SMS' rolecop claim at all, certainly not after Snake's flip confirmed it anyway because that would've been dumb.  You do make a valid point about me splitting the vote though. I'm possibly just getting a wee bit ahead of myself and overcomplicating things unnecessarily. My theory about Ron and Tom hinges on the belief that Nexus is scum so I'll switch my vote to him. If he does flip scum then I can follow up on who he is aligned with tomorrow.  UNVOTE  VOTE NEXUS  To everybody else, if we miss lynch today and the night actions all go against us then it's game over. If you've noticed anything suspicious at all or have any theories then post them. There is no point holding anything back at this stage. We've got three days left and the last thing we want is a repeat of the last phase where we ended up with only two viable wagons and they were both town. that the post I was talking about I thought you were hinting that you thought Nexus had forgotten the claim but I guess I read to much into it as you didn't implicitly state that. But I notice you first agree with my point about splitting the vote and then take you vote off Ron who had three votes and placed in on Nexus who had 1 votes to make it 2 each so you claim to agree with me and then your action is for the opposite. Why is that? Also if you pushing the theory that Ron and Tom are bussing Nexus, then it is likely that Nexus is not a power scum role surely the vote should go against the likely power scum role in either Ron or Tom in your theory?  What post? I said I thought Nexus hadn't been paying attention and had forgotten that he still had his random vote on you but that would've been day two, possibly even day one. Nothing to do with his forgetting SMS' claim which came this phase.  You said that me supporting a lynch on Ron based on a slip by Nexus was splitting the vote and you were right. That's why I moved my vote to Nexus, it simplifies things and means I'm not making an argument to lynch two players at the same time. I doubt he's a power role, which was why I was reluctant to vote for him before but I think he's scum and we need to hit scum, any scum today. I still think he might be aligned with Ron and Tom but we can leave that until after he flips.  Who do you suspect at the moment Swift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tom Posted April 3, 2011 Paid Members Share Posted April 3, 2011 For the record, I won't be around much at all tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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