Jun Kasai Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Reborn Again is average, I remember Sydal & Marufuji being quite good but the rest is quite forgetable IMO.Fight @ The Roxbury is pretty decent, the 4CS with Hero/Nigel/Claudio/Quack is very good though as is Sydal vs Generico. Skipped United We Stand but I heard good things Dragon/Nigel vs Morishima/Marufuji.As for Caged Rage, the Briscoes/Steenerico Cage Match was entertaining but not as good as I thought it would be, didn't really care for the Jack & Roderick Cage match. I did like the World Title 3-Way though but overall quite a mediocre show. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cum Doctor Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Eddie Kingston generally bores me. I was hoping to see an improvement with the more I'd seen of him, but there really isn't much to the guy, other than I like him on the mic. Always enjoy his promos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Kasai Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 This is just my opinion but there's is no one on the indys that can draw you into a match like Kingston can, he makes you believe his feuds are real and that there's genuine animosity between whoever he's feuding with, and thats a hard thing to in the indys. His matches with Tim Donst are a prime example, after the beating he lays on him physicaly and verbally through out you really want Donst just to beat the shit out of him by the end, I'd say he single handidly made Donst after that first match they had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spotlightmagnet1 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I just read on ROH website that BJ Whitmer and ROH have parted ways. It seems like a mutral agreement but i was wondering if anyone heard if he signed for someone else (TNA or WWE?) Still i think he was a good wrestler if a little bland. Shame to see him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Scott Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I've just been reading that as well, seems like he's leaving on good terms and it'll be interesting to see what happens for him next. I don't see him going to TNA or WWE but you never know, Japan's a more likely destination I think and probably a return to more regular work with other indys like IWA:MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dearly Devoted Dexter Posted March 19, 2008 Paid Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) B.J. Whitmer gone - :thumbsup:As for the four shows queried - Reborn: Again was shite, Fight at the Roxbury and United We Stand were ok, and I havn't seen Caged Rage yet. Kingston seems to be polarising opinion. He's probably the best guy on the indies at the mo not have a have had a shot in ROH. so probably deserves to be bought in on that basic alone, at least for a couple of shows Edited March 19, 2008 by Dearly Devoted Dexter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gadge Posted March 19, 2008 Paid Members Share Posted March 19, 2008 So there's nothing good particularly from Reborn Again (11/5), Fight @ The Roxbury (8/6), United We Stand (22/6) or Caged Rage (24/8)?I was quite disappointed by Caged Rage (the only one of those four I've seen) - the cage matches in question weren't fantastic (the Briscoes/Steenerico one in particular didn't measure up to the street fight they had a couple of weeks before at DBDVN1), the triple threat title match is okay, as is Danielson vs. Pac, but the show looked a lot better than it actually turned out to be. For me, anyway.Reborn Again and United We Stand REALLY suffered from being the odd show out on PPV weekends. The Dragon/Nigel vs Morishima/Marufuji match at the latter certainly isn't enough to make you seek that show out. Fight at the Roxbury was much more enjoyable, but nothing stands out in the memory. I liked Caged Rage, but it's not essential. It does have one of the best matches of the now-defunct Resilience. I think the best shows have already been covered - Race to the Top night 2, Death Before Dishonor V (night 1 over night 2, but both are really good), Manhattan Mayhem II (essential), then maybe Glory By Honor VI Night 2 after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philjax Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Cheers for the help. Hopefully my ISA interest will be of such gigantic value I'll just get them all anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Kasai Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Thank You B.J. Whitmer Thread from the ROH boardSome of the shit here is hilariousThe only time I've ever been more disappointed in seeing someone leave was Samoa Joe. I can only hope and pray Whitmer will return one day. In fact, of all the live shows I've been to (about 10), I don't remember seeing a bad Whitmer match at any of 'em Man it feels so weird he is gone. You will be missed BJ!My personal faveThis news just made my day.Man I just feel great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John. Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I was discussing BJ Whitmer with an American friend at IPW:UK vs The World on Saturday night, and we couldn't work out what he brings to ROH in 2008!!I think I compared him to Matt Stryker who got a good run once, and even had a title shot against Samoa Joe..I appreciate not every wrestler has 'got it' but BJ bored me too tears..a definate fast forward wrestler!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dearly Devoted Dexter Posted March 21, 2008 Paid Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I was discussing BJ Whitmer with an American friend at IPW:UK vs The World on Saturday night, and we couldn't work out what he brings to ROH in 2008!!I think I compared him to Matt Stryker who got a good run once, and even had a title shot against Samoa Joe..I appreciate not every wrestler has 'got it' but BJ bored me too tears..a definate fast forward wrestler!!Matt Stryker was quite good, the problem with him was that Gabe tried to push him to the moon as a main event guy when he was clearly an upper mid carder at best. One of the worst ever matches in ROH history was Matt Stryker vs BJ Whitmer at FB 03. Dreadful stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King is Dead Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I didn't mind BJ but he has got stale, i'm watching his match with Jacobs at Dragon Gate Challenge right now, good match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dearly Devoted Dexter Posted March 21, 2008 Paid Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I didn't mind BJ but he has got stale, i'm watching his match with Jacobs at Dragon Gate Challenge right now, good match.Only because he nearly killed poor Jimmy Jacobs!! Good riddance to Whitmer, and fair play to Punk for banging his wife! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members GlennCullen Posted March 21, 2008 Paid Members Share Posted March 21, 2008 I just want to say quickly that Cary Silkin is a top class guy. After the Philly show we were having trouble getting a taxi to the Greyhound station so he let us use his mobile to sort it out and spent some time to talk to us about the show. Above and beyond what you'd expect really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty LC Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 You could have got a bus right out front of the Armory. Sure, unfamiliar country in the middle of the night and all that, but it's the type of thing that puts hairs on your chest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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