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I really want Howard Jones to resurface in a band. KSE i think will drop down the metal pecking order with Jesse involved.

3 and 1/2 weeks until Download, 4 days until the Birmingham show and we're still none the wiser.Vinnie Appice has ruled himself out too after some harsh about recording with Dio and Iommi on the Heaven & Hell album.Which leaves us with...well, who exactly? Mike Bordin has played with Ozzy in the past, Tommy Clufetos plays with Ozzy now, or it be someone else entirely. The whole thing has taken the shine off them headlining Download

Just goto a festival for 1 day?

I mean Jagermeister World Tour (Skindred/Therapy/Black Spiders) for a fiver was a steal as was Rockstar Taste of Chaos at

Looking at this years Headliner and Sub Headline acts i can see what people mean about lack of headline material. Metallica, Sabbath, Soundgarden and Prodigy have all been around for a while.

I personally feel we will end up going the way of the yanks and going more day festivals. But can i say did anyone catch the Jagermeister Tour? Skindred + Therapy? for a fiver was the biggest bargain ever.

Howard Jones has left Killswitch Engage.Not really a shock, you get the impression that Howard wasn't happy in the band for a long time, I always felt that he was never truly comfortable being on stage either. Great vocalist no doubt, but he always seemed out of place to me.Band are looking for a new singer.

Watching Skindred live from Kentish town on Scuzz. Benji is legendary and he did a DJ set in Meze Newport on Halloween, was funny as.

People need to invest a fiver to see these on the Jagermeister World Tour. A Fiver to see Skindred and Therapy? is a fucking steal.

Every Time I Die are in Cardiff tonight, i just can't afford to go though. I'm gutted because i wanna see every band on the bill, plus i aint seen Every Time I Die in a long time.

 

As for thing with not being liked by metal fans, it's cause they were always lumped in the 'core scene and have never really gotten away from it. My housemate (who's as close minded a music-metal fan as you can get) takes every oppurtunity he gets to call them Every Time I Cry, dick.

 

As for ETID, this live footage appeared on their last DVD, live from the legendary (and now closed) TJ's in Newport...

 

 

I was there

TJ's was legendary. It's being turned into a resturant which will suck. I remember seeing some cracking bands in there including Lost Prophets and now there just seems to be nothing in newport.

Skindred/therapy? jager world tour for a fucking fiver. ace

 

im going! Black Spiders have been added to the bill. I think there's around 25 of us planning on trekking up together already, shows what happens when the prices drop

Going from newport 7 of us on the drink from lunchtime, through Skindred (perhaps with some free Jager) and on into the night.

VH news is old and been shot down by Copping already.

Shinedown/Halestorm booked for o2 bristol and skindred/therapy? jager world tour for a fucking fiver. ace

The Prodigy confirmed as the Friday Download headliner

You just knew they would sneak a non-metal act in there.

Does anyone on here remember 2009 where even the Manson fans were leaving to watch them, they are the biggest 2nd stage headliners i have seen crowd wise.

Does this confirm Machine Head as Friday 2nd stage headliners?

sabbath for soni so i hear on DL forums?

Disturbed's B side's album out the Lost Children 7th November looks good with awesome songs including their living after midnight cover.

New FFDP album is out Monday and looking good

Didn't Matt Bellamy make the last Muse album after spending ages reading into conspiracy theories?

Could Sting be the person to finally convince Vinnie to turn Cena heel?

Based on this weekends games i can see Wales just nudging past england but it'll be a high scorer from the mistakes/missed kicks etc. . .

Scotland shot themselves in the foot and i'll put money on Ireland to win although i do feel having england + ireland at home helps wales. I wouldn't fancy being any team and having to go to the milenium stadium to play wales at the minute.

Kurt Angle

Bound For Glory.

Beer Money Inc.

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TNA isn't close to WCW in anyway. WWE ran their business for several years in direct competition to WCW, concentrating on beating them in the ratings and obsessing over who was doing better. They don't give a shit about TNA.WWE was terrified of letting stars go in the late 90s because they'd go to WCW and make a genuine difference. Today it makes no difference. Christian, Angle, Rhyno and many others have gone directly to TNA and it's made absolutely fuck all difference. If everyone on WWE dropped 30 pounds overnight it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to the relative success of WWE and TNA. TNA could introduce a policy tomorrow by which every one of their stars was force-fed steroids and growth hormone with mandatory eight hour daily gym sessions and it wouldn't get them any closer to WWE's business levels. TNA aren't on the radar. Nobody is. WWE effectively IS the professional wrestling industry and they are the only people who can make changes that affect the entire industry.

I think it would make a differance if someone like The Rock returned to Wrestling but went with TNA. Even Hogan showing up on TNA would probably inject interest.

Anyway on topic WWE doesn't push guys on size then explain to me Khali, Snitsky,Big show? They all were there because of their size only. The biggest guy in ECW was Sal E. who wasn't pushed at all. And wasn't Raven wanted by WWE as Johhny Polo but he left them just like Douglas left WCW? People could get over but WWE couldn't book them properly. In theory signing Paul Heyman would of been a lot easier.

Ironically, the WWF wanted Raven but only as a manager and producer because they thought he was too small to be a wrestler.

Your example of The Sandman could be equalled by Mankind. He was fat, yet McMahon pushed him to the moon.

Oh come off it!!ECW was full of guys with less than superman builds (who were allowed to work to their strengths and get over);RavenSandmanCactus JackMikey WhipwreckTommy DreamerJustin CredibleSteve CorinoThe DudleysTajiriReyPsychosisJuviMalenkoSabuRVDNew JackBallsBlah blah blah... Heyman brought guys in because they had shown themselves to have great wrestling ability, a winning gimmick, loads of charisma/mic skills, or a combination of these. Vince hires young, good-looking types with great builds and hopes he can turn them into wrestlers. The fact that Mick Foley both 1) got over a gimmick that could quite easily have bombed and 2) nearly killed himself by taking masses of insane bumps, meant that McMahon had to push him!! I can't fathom how anyone could argue that ECW was as size/build obsessed as WWF/E ???

Well you pretty much listed the entire roster of the old ECW there. I am not saying ECW was size obsessed at all but you mentioned that a fat guy could get over and main event in ECW as if it was exclusive to them. All I'm saying is that WWE has examples of this as well. WWE does hire a lot of big men but its not a pre requisite for making it to the top as history proves. ECW hired misfits and rejects because nobody else wanted them until they got to ECW. They accentuated the positives which is why ECW worked so well (for a while)

Didn't see this posted in here but an update on Doctor Astin and the possible implications of this - http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/h...t.asp?aID=20061This bit in particular stood out:

The announcement that Benoit passed his 4/10 steroid test, even if he did, is one that can't hold up to public opinion with the revelation in this indictment, because it covers a period well into the Wellness policy. A key point of this is unlike with Balco, where they were using designer drugs that could beat the tests, Astin was prescribing Benoit regular steroids, so either the testing is incredibly flawed, Benoit had a way to easily beat the tests, or the tests themselves were a sham. I strongly believe the latter is not the case, but I also believe the latter will be the conclusion most will come to. This is the first time when I truly fear that wrestling as we know it not only will be undergoing great changes, but that as bad as Vince McMahon's reputation is in some circles, and even with his history of rebounding from negatives, this will tarnish it to a level that he may never live to fully turn around. There will be a far increased number of cries in the media over the next week, which have already started, to do something about the industry. Between the advertisers, sponsors, and those action figures with the muscular physiques, this is not a story going away soon.

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