scotswizard

This is where this mark mentality comes in. This is where you are proven wrong. You automatically assume i mean big roided up guys that have huge muscles and are over 6 foot. I don't.

 

 

George "The Animal" Steele passed away a few weeks ago. He was larger than life.

 

 

When I say larger than life I mean men and women that have charisma, they can do the talking, they have personality, when you see them on TV you can't take your eyes off them so yes Earthquake would be in my list of larger than life men but so was George Steele. So is Honky Tonk Man. Not all guys on steroids. Guys that you would never see in everyday life. Guys that just look the part. How many times have you seen a wrestler or a singer or an actor or a performer on TV and they just look the part, they just look like they were meant to do that in their life. That's what I mean. Wrestling used to be full of men like that. Even if I didn't like certain ones or I wasn't a big fan of their matches I could still sit and watch it and know they absolutely belonged there, they had a place on that show. That's what I mean but of course some of you on here have been on this forum for so long and you've been watching this indie wrestling for so long that when someone like me comes along you just assume the opposite, that I want the opposite. I don't care how many muscles someone has or how tall they are or if they are fat or skinny. I just want wrestlers that look the part and act the part to be on TV, I want it to be believable and interesting, not bland and I want them to make me want to watch the show, that don't make me feel stupid or I'm not sitting there saying....I could take him in a real fight.

 

 

So no you're wrong. I don't want those things. It's a TV show guys. You don't stick regular people on TV. Even on reality shows. Do any of you watch Big Brother? Do you watch X Factor or Briitain's Got Talent? Look at those regular people. They're not just average joe's. They're attractive people. Even the sob stories where they try and tug at your heartstrings, it's never a down trodden man or woman, it's always a nice looking man or woman, nice skin, nice teeth, they're always well spoken. Big Brother is the same. All the men and women look nice. Do you see what I'm getting at? It's TV.  Even when the show has to rely on regular every day folk.....it's decent looking everyday folk. It's TV. Everyone has to look good. People are sitting in front of their TV everyday watching shows, people want to see stars, they want to see interesting people. Wrestling is the same way. People aren't gonna sit and watch Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens roll around the ring for 20 minutes. Same with movies. That new film with Joan Collins was packed two days in a row at my local cinema. I was lucky to get a ticket on Saturday. People pay to see Joan Collins. They pay to see Robert DeNiro. They pay to see stars. There's a new film coming out with Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine and maybe it doesn't have the big budget of King Kong, maybe it doesn't show up in every single cinema but I'll bet that one too has sell outs and packed rooms because it's stars in it. People want to see stars, they don't want to sit and look at regular looking people. What did Bobby Heenan used to say? You don't dress like the marks. You don't dress like the paying marks in the crowd. You're supposed to look like a star. That doesn't mean you need big muscles or be covered in baby oil and be 6 foot 5. It just means you make an effort. You look different, you act different, you carry yourself different.

 

 

And as far as the women go, I've already said on here before I thought Miss Elizabeth was very attractive and she never wore revealing clothing infact she barely said or did anything but she looked very sexy and not that I need to explain myself to any one but I will say this, I am a grown man, I'm a straight man, I like women and I have no issue saying I like watching attractive women and for a straight men to tell me that sexuality doesn't belong on a wrestling show tells me there is something not quite right with that person and I wont even argue about that. All I will say is for any straight man telling me that the women in wrestling should dress nice or god forbid have some confidence in their appearance then they need to get a life. Especially if you're over the age of 30. Is marriage not on the cards? You not want kids? Not want a family? Not got a job? Don't sit and argue with me on a forum, go and sort your life out because you only get 1 life, only here once, don't waste anymore of your life on wrestling, go and get a life.

That can't be right. That's David Prowse right? Darth Vader.

Kofi Kingston can't even throw a punch. I remember years ago at a show in Glasgow he done that thing where they do the 10 punches in the corner and everyone couldn't believe. He wasn't even touching them. It was hilarious, he couldn't even try and make it look like he was punching, just hitting air and his own forearm on occasion. Then he does this other thing where he wiggles about and jumps in the air and I guess he's meant to hurt the opponents belly with his feet. Even just the way he moves around the ring. It's acrobatics. it's not wrestling. You couldn't sit there and honestly suspend your disbelief. When you see it in real life it's even worse.

 

 

That right there is the difference between a pro and someone who just doesn't get it. And I'm no fan of the 10 punches in the corner. It's right up there with wrestlers getting distracted with entrance music and bending over slowly and staying bent over for 5 seconds while the other wrestler swings a chair and hits them on the back. It's stuff that should have been done away with 30 years ago. It's so hokey looking.

I hardly ever post here but I've been reading these boards for years. The reason I continue coming here is because, unlike a lot of wrestling sites, the people that post here regularly actually seem capable of understanding that people can have different opinions on todays product.

 

Scotswizard. I don't care if you think everyone today is crap compared to past generations. You're entitled to your opinion and are free to switch WWE off and wait for Psycho Sid to return and usher in a new golden age.

 

The thing I can't stand though is your absolute commitment to trying to get everyone to agree with you. Why do you even care? Yes, yes I know. Its a discussion forum you should be able to voice your thoughts but are you not tired of spouting the same nonsense on an almost daily basis?

 

I got my flatmates to watch Wrestlemania 31 with me and they both fell in love with it, even after being sceptical in the past. One is female and one is a gay guy and their favourite wrestlers are Kevin Owens and Finn Balor. So please stop telling people how 'casuals' see the product or how our friends and family will react. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about!

 

I know the numpty is probably just trolling but I've hit a point and had to say something. To everyone else, thanks for giving me some excellent daily reading.

 

 

I think I speak on behalf of everyone here by saying thanks for logging in and joining in on the discussion, it's good to have you here and hopefully you join us more often.

 

Regarding your reply. You must be joking. These people here are capable of having different opinions on today's product? They nearly shit the bed when I said Kevin Owens looked like  a regular taking his kids to school in the morning. Sami Zayn too. They're accepting of different opinions? All I've done is give opinions and at at every turn it's met with anger and rage.

It's a hot spot for big shows not just wrestling. That's why a lot of TV shows are filmed there. It's the tourists that attend a lot of shows there.

He's right. My opinion doesn't matter. I don't pay for Sky or cable. I don't pay any money to Sky Sports. WWE has no idea if I watch or not.

 

 

 

The WWE in the past year in America has lost over a million viewers. That's a million people that no longer watch and there is no doubt in my mind that the reason for this is the constant focus on wrestlers from NXT like Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Neville aswell as regulars like Kofi Kingston, Xavier Woods, Bo Dallas, Sin Cara that simply do not look or act believable. They don't look the part. They don't belong on a wrestling show and that's why they no longer watch. They are the casual fans. The mass audience. Their opinion matters. Mine doesn't.

 

I'm only standing back from the sidelines and saying what I see. That's what I see and I would put it to the test any day of the week. I would gladly show a family member or a friend that doesn't watch an episode of Raw and I would guarantee that everytime one of those wrestlers appeared on screen a comment would be made. No doubt about it.

They don't. My opinion does not matter. What matters is the mass audience. The large numbers of people that could potentially tune into the show. The casual fans. They are the ones that make up the numbers, if they tune out then there's an issue and I do believe that Raw having so many people from NXT is part of that reason why the numbers are down. They are not grabbing people's attention and I think a lot of it is due to their appearance. They don't come across as believable.

Not my opinion.

 

 

You all have friends and family right? Switch Raw on for them when Kevin Owens is on and report back what happened. I'm assuming the males will laugh and snicker and the women will be talking about the stretch marks under his arms and how he looks like a regular guy. Not just my opinion or Vince's. That's the opinion of the general public when they are told to try and believe that this guy is not only a champion but is meant to try and win a "fight".

 

 

 

It's simply not believable.

I've been warned about moaning about Kevin Owens? I don't have any pms so if i have it will likely be buried in amongst other threads and it's my opinion. I am entitled to give my opinion.

People will get to hear it tomorrow on Podcast One but i was listening to Russo's show on Friday night and the Disco Inferno told him that Bruce Prichard is getting over 3 million downloads on his podcast per month which Russo finds unbelievable. Then Disco said Chris Jericho once told him that in 2 years of Jericho doing his podcast he had over 120 million downloads in just those 2 years.

 

 

I'm not saying it's not possible but If Bruce Prichard is really doing over 3 million downloads per month then I can see why Jeff Jarrett hired him and not Vince Russo. Vince Russo is doing 250k per week.

 

 

I do have to say I am surprised. I've watched wrestling a long time and I can maybe count on one hand the amount of times I've heard the name Bruce Prichard mentioned on TV. Out of character. Some of you must know people that are casual fans or who watched in the 80s or late 90s. People that know the big names in wrestling. Do you know any casual fans that would know who Bruce Prichard was? Or even recognise the name Bruce Prichard? Infact I'm surprised there is even 3 million people willing to listen to wrestling podcasts. Who is listening to him? I heard Steve Austin's podcast did 1 million per week. Bruce Prichard is doing over 3 million? And Steve Austin is a household name? I just don't believe it at all.

 

 

 

Even typing the name Bruce Prichard that many times is weird for me. This guy is really getting 3 million downloads per month? And not even a casual fan would know who he is?

Yeah there's a lot of tourists in London.

Kevin Owens is just a regular fat guy. He has no place being on TV at all. Wrestling is a TV show and should be full of men and women that look good for TV. They are meant to be Superstars. Celebrities. They are meant to look good. Wrestling fans will watch it.

 

 

Wrestling fans will watch ANYTHING with the word wrestling in the title of the show or the synopsis. Wrestling fans will never stop watching. That's why wrestling fans opinions don't matter cause they don't stop watching, they WILL NEVER stop watching. Sky Sports could put a blank screen on for 3 hours and they will sit like imbeciles waiting for a new colour to appear.

 

 

What matters is the mass audience and the mass audience are casual fans. They don't care about wrestling. They only watch something if it is good. Put Kevin Owens on TV in front of your parents or family. Put Kevin Owens in front of someone who has never watched a wrestling show before. They will either laugh at him and then laugh at you for showing them it or they will roll their eyes. Kevin Owens and wrestler don't belong in the same sentance. He shouldn't be on a wrestling show. End of.

I hope TNA turn things around, I hope things get better for them and they go on to have great success, I'm not burying them at all.

 

 

And I'll tell you what it was with wrestling and this went on to maybe 2005/2006. Wrestling was full of larger than life characters. I would consider Shawn Michaels when he first went solo in WWF as larger than life. George Steele. King Kong Bundy. Again if you really wanna look extra hard at them, they didn't have big costumes or fancy entrances but they stood out, they acted the part. All of the wrestlers from that time period looked the part and when they got in the ring they knew how to make it exciting all the way up the card. That's what wrestling used to be. Stone Cold Steve Austin is a blue collar worker, in some cases you could say he was bland because of the way he dressed with just the black boots and pants, not as fancy as he was in the Hollywood Blondes but what he did in the ring was larger than life. The way he walked to the ring and talked was larger than life. These are people that you couldn't bump into in real life. They looked like stars. They acted like stars. If you had never watched a day of wrestling in your life and you saw one of these men you would say, oh that guy looks like a wrestler or he does something in showbiz. They have a look to them, an aura about them that just screams star and the wrestling business for 30 years was crammed full of them. People like to poo poo all over WCW 2000, go back and look at WCW 2000. The roster is jam packed full of guys that look the part, that can talk without a script, that can do the wrestling. You said I look at the past through the lens of nostalgia, I think you do that too because clearly you have cherry picked what you want to remember. I didn't like everything I saw and I wasn't a fan of everything I watched but the people on those shows deserved to be on them. Even if i didn't like them I knew they deserved to be on the show.

 

I do dismiss Kevin Owens. Kevins Owens is a regular guy. He is built like one. He talks like one and I'm just being honest with you here, he looks like he would never win a fight in real life and I guarantee you that's what most casual fans will think looking at him. As soon as you see a wrestler on TV and you KNOW you can take them in a fight, just forget about it. It's already a hard enough stretch as it is to sit there and pretend it's real but when you have a guy that's not even in shape for it, doesn't even look like an athlete and now you need to sit there and pretend this guy is a real tough guy it kills any credibility and the numbers prove it. Less people than ever are watching wrestling. If people were watching wrestling Vince McMahon wouldn't need to bring back Bill Goldberg or is it Lesnar or is it the son Shane or maybe it's one last run for The Rock. Why are they there? Cause the current crop aren't good enough. Not doing the job good enough.

 

 

Do you not see that? The wrestling business was so full of stars at one point that Roddy Piper couldn't even hold the Title belt. Jake Roberts couldn't even hold it. Mr Perfect couldn't hold it. That's how much talent there was at one point that those guys never even got a run with it but in 2017 Kevin Owens is the Champion? Really? You can't see that? You can't see how far the business has fallen that at one point Roddy Piper couldn't get a look in but Kevin Owens is now walking around with the belt? Never mind me and my rose tinted glasses, if you can't see that then I don't know what to say to you. And that's the best way I can describe it to you. It's looking at people and knowing they look the part. It's a show. It's meant to be a show. It should be the best of the best in there. It shouldn't be regular people on it. Just like the movies. Not everybody has to look like Vin DIesel or Leonardo DiCaprio, it's not always about big muscles or good looks but you have people that just chew the scenery, they act everyone else off the screen. ook at Mick Foley when he makes an effort. He can talk everyone else off the screen and he's not a big muscular guy in a colourful costume. It's talent. People you just can't take your eyes off. That's what I mean when I say larger than life. People that you would just never meet in everyday life and if you ever did and they walk into a room...you notice them. You speak to them and you know they're not like everyone else. They carry themselves differently.

 

 

And up until, I would say.....2006 at the latest. Wrestling was that way. Not all good looking. Not all muscular. But wrestlers that were unique, talented, they jumped off the screen, they could do it all, talking, wrestling, entertaining. And there's been guys since then. Randy Orton. Batista. John Cena, they've all lasted longer than the year 2006. Edge was one. Big Show. The Miz. These are guys that I would say are larger than life. I would say from the current crop that Charlotte Flair is near the top. I like Rusev. I like Cesaro. I like Braun Strowman. I like the English guy Jack Gallagher. I like a lot of the women on Smackdown like Nikki Bella and Alexa Bliss. I like Luke Harper. I think every one of them would stand out no matter what year it was. That's wrestling to me. They all do their own thing, they all do it their own way, they work different, they look the part, when they're on TV you can't take your eyes off them. But today you only get little bits of them week to week. They're in amongst a lot of dross. Even thinking about it now, if the WWE was one show a week at two hours. I could sit and watch those names I just mentiond for 2 hours every week and add in your Goldberg/Lesnar stuff, whatever the McMahons are doing and obviously a handful more women wrestlers and some tag teams that would fill 2 hours easy. That to me would be an acceptable WWE show in 2017 and if they add in some storylines then even better, great! And the example I made was WWE but I could do the same for TNA throughout the 2000's. I might not have watched all their shows but I know who was on their roster and it was jam packed with good talent too.

I agree with you, people tune in to what interests them. The thing with TV shows is the ones I listed have gimmicks, singing contests, naval crimes, the undead walking the earth, geeks but that's just window dressing, behind all that you have well developed characters that the people at home can relate to. The shows aren't just about those things, they are about the people.

 

 

With wrestling today, and I say this for all wrestling companies, all they do is wrestling matches. The world moved on from make believe fighting 20 years ago so when that's ALL you have in a 3 hour/2 hour show and the people wrestling are just bland looking people with no personality.....who is gonna sit for 2/3 hours and watch that? Only wrestling fans. Cause there's nothing else there bar wrestling and I can tell you this, the general public don't care about matches, I've watched wrestling for 30 years and I can tell you personally, I don't care about the matches or the workrate. It's not real. I don't care about the match at all. What drew me to wrestling was seeing people on TV that were larger than life and they did things in the ring that I couldn't do in real life. It was a great big show.

 

 

 

And you mention TNA and Spike TV and Russo. Did you not hear the famous story of when the night after Bound For Glory 2010 when the first 45 minutes of the show was just promos and the first 45 minutes of the show drew over 2 million viewers and when Dixie and Hulk and Eric and Abyss and Jarrett had all done their talking, bare in mind this is 45 minutes of a 2 hour show.......when they went back to "wrestling", the other 1 hour 15 minutes of the show lost viewers. The very next day the representative at Spike said in the meeting I thought this was meant to be a wrestling show, why is there so much talking? That talking drew over 2 million people, as soon as that talking stopped the viewers left so that tells you all you need to know about Spike TV. They would rather have 2 hours of boring wrestling matches drawing just over a 1 million people rather than 45 minutes of great storytelling and great acting and performance by Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan and Dixie Carter and Jeff Hardy and everyone else involved in the 10/10/10 storyline. That is the perfect example. You have one storyline drawing over 2 million people for 45 minutes, not 5 or 10 or 15 minutes, nearly a full hour of it and they changed the channel as soon as a wrestling match started. And Spike didn't want that, they didn't want 2 million viewers, they just wanted 1.2 or 1.3 or whatever it was.

 

 

And that right there is the wrestling business. Rather than put the effort in and get decent numbers watching the shows and bringing in new fans, it's just being happy with the basic following it has.

No it wouldn't infact when TNA first started I didn't even seek it out, infact the night Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan turned up  was the very first full episode I watched, up until then I had only flicked through the channels and seen it on Bravo and even then I never sat and watched any match or promo so I went all those years without seeing any of it.

 

Russo is not parroting anything anyone says, he has lasted longer than any booker or writer in the history of wrestling, from writing the WWE magazine in 1992 to writing TV in 1995, going to WCW in 1999, he got paid 500k per year for 2 years, he said he made a million dollars just from WCW alone, when that ended in 2001 he went to help Jeff in 2002, only lasted a few minutes before becoming  a born again Christian, returned to TNA in 2004 and lasted till 2011 when he left. That's nearly 20 years of constant employment in wrestling companies. Apart from a few short gaps between WCW and TNA and his short break in TNA when he left because of the issues in his life, that's a long time employed. I don't think anyone else managed that level of employment with just 2 short breaks.

 

 

And I don't care either way. I've already seen the best wrestling has to offer, I saw it in the 80s', i saw it in the 90s, I've seen the best wrestlers ever. It's no different than watching Robert DeNiro in a movie now or Morgan Freeman. I've seen their best work, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, I've seen it all but I appreciate them now for what they did in the past. I still do that with wrestling. Its never gonna be good again. The WWE has a fat waste of space as their champion, I don't know what TNA has but It wont be much better. I've seen wrestling at it's best. It will never be that good again. I, like many others thought the people in power over there at Anthem, would have given someone new a chance but once again, it's the wrestling business, it's friends getting jobs, the same old people doing the same job and getting the same results, nothing, ever, changing.

 

 

And you all know that in real life right? For those of you working jobs, you've all worked for a boss that's been there for 20, 30 years right? Or you work with someone that's done the job for many years and they just do what they know right? They don't go out their way to learn new things or adapt or change, they do what they know. We all do it. We all do what we know and we just stick to it regardless of whether it's outdated or there's quicker and better ways of doing the same job. We all do it. Wrestling is once again being run by the same old hands that only know one thing......WRESTLING and who's gonna watch it? Wrestling fans. How many wrestling fans are there in the world right now? Not very many. When you start treating it like a TV show where yes....you might see some tits and ass cause that's what happens in real life, all of a sudden you've just opened the show up to the millions of people at home and you now have a chance to engage with them and bring them into your world. How many watch CSI or NCIS for the investigations? How many watch to see Gibbs? Same with Big Bang Theory and Walking Dead. Are people really watching those shows to watch geeks and zombies? Or are they watching becauase the characters are interesting and they see themselves in some of them and they're interested in what they're gonna do and say. It's people. It's characters. Same with the X Factor. Are people watching that looking for good karaoke or are they interested in the backstorys of the people and they want the underdog with a good voice and the comedy act to entertain them and the one that Simon doesn't like, they want them to mouth off at him and put him in his place or impress him. It's people. Everything else is just a hook. Crime scene investigations, geeks, zombies, talent shows. That's just the display sign on the front of shop. The reason people watch is for the people, the characters.

 

When you have a wrestling show that is booked by wrestling people and it's full of nothing but wrestling matches that mean nothing....who is gonna watch that? Wrestling fans.

 

When you have a wrestling show that is booked by non wrestling people and it's full of larger than life characters and down to earth characters and there are stories and twists and turns and every match has stakes and a reason to exist....who is gonna watch that? A lot of people. A lot of people would be interested in that. I wish TNA well. I wish Dutch well but nothing will change because people  don't change. I don't change. None of you change. Everyone does what they know.

That's what Dutch told him. Spoke in the afternoon, he said he had just written 10 episodes of Impact Wrestling and a PPV on his own. He could of course have been lying to Russo and had many helpers. Russo said at 67 years old he should not have been left to write 10 weeks of TV on his own because you don't know if it's gonna work or not. If the first episode is great then good, there's a good chance the other 9 will be great too but if the first episode isn't then that means the other 9 could be the same way because it's coming from one man. People tend to write what they know so if you have one man writing 10 episodes then chances are all 10 are gonna be fairly similar.

 

 

 

And Russo also heard from Jeff Jarrett last week by email. Jeff Jarrett was asking about the numbers he gets on Podcast One, Russo told him he has 5 shows a week, Monday to Friday and together they total 250k so quarter of a million listeners per week, a few days later the news broke on the dirt sheets about Bruce Prichard being hired because of his podcast numbers so he said well at least he knows why Bruce Prichard is there, he's only there because his podcast numbers must be higher than Russos which i find hard to believe. He also says they were stupid to use the TNA name for so long and despite what Jeff Jarrett or anyone else says, it was always Tits and Ass wrestling, they can kid themselves all they want and they were imbeciles to keep the name for so long, the minute they stopped doing the weekly PPVs and went to Fox Sports in the early days the company name should have been changed immediately.

 

 

And I thought someone might have taken a dig. Russo himself says he shouldn't be writing wrestling in 2017 and even if he did have the chance, one man can't do it, not even him and Ferrara because TV by the week is getting better and better and the people that sit and watch TV now don't just watch any old shit on it, people are more picky and choosey than ever, they're not gonna waste one minute of their time watching a program that they don't love and enjoy right off the bat. That's why wrestling has so few people watching it now, the rest of society has moved on. It will never be as popular as it used to be ever again because the people writing wrestling just now have been in the wrestling business for decades, all they know is basic wrestling, good guy vs bad guy, roll up, pinfall, count out, commercial. 1970s wrestling. They can't compete with Walking Dead or NCIS or Blue Bloods or Bates Motel or Big Bang Theory. Shows where the characters are so well thought out and the storylines are so well thought out in advance. There's no way you can compete with that and it's not a slight on Dutch because told Dutch all this, you shouldn't be writing all of that on your own because you can't do anything organic week to week. If something organic happens on the show or get's a reaction online or something, you can't even reference it because you've block taped everything. You need to wait 10 weeks before reacting to it. All people need is 1 week, not 10 to decide if they like it or not and because it's just the same guy booking it all, if you dislike the first episode, chances are you're not gonna like the other 9.

People that listen to Vince Russo on Podcast One will get to hear him and Disco discuss this on Monday but I watched it on Friday night and Russo says he had a conversation with Dutch Mantel earlier in the week and when Russo asked him how he was he said he was just done writing 10 episodes of Impact Wrestling and a PPV on his own. Russo says this is crazy and that no man alone in 2017 should be writing 10 weeks of wrestling on their own and also Dutch is 67 years old, which shouldn't have anything to do with the quality of the shows but when you have people that have been in the business for decades.....and they only know one way of doing it, you're gonna get that same way all the time.

 

It's no different than 71 years old Vince McMahon thinking babyfaces and heels acting a certain way.

 

What does Jeff Jarrett know? Wrestling. The same wrestling he's always done.

 

 

When you go back to that well and you keep picking the same people to do the same jobs you're gonna get the same results. You're not gonna get anything new and Dutch Mantel writing 10 episodes and a PPV is just gonna be more of the same, if you like the first episode you'll probably like the other 9 but it's just gonna be basic wrestling. TV audiences in 2017 are so sophisticated now that they want more from their TV programs. The wrestling business seems to be stuck in this time warp bubble. Bruce Prichard is back there. Konnan is meant to be appearing on TV there. It's the same names getting recycled. The WWE does the exact same thing and they too churn out the exact same thing every week, every year. Nothing changes.

 

 

And of course no disrespect intended to Dutch Mantel, he has had good creative ideas in the past and probably still does for the future but the wrestling business, this business seems to think that you need wrestling people booking the shows, it's not  a wrestling show, it's a TV SHOW and when they start treating it like one then maybe things will change for them.

Why? The WWE casuals don't know AJ styles. He was brought in, they put him over, put the belt on him. They sold him as a veteran....which he is but the casuals don't know that so for them, all they see is a new guy come in, he beats Cena, beats some other regular faces that they do know and now he's the Champion in a very short space of time. It's a hard sell if the only thing you watch is WWE wrestling. If you don't know any other company then it is a hard sell and I think WWE forgets that.

 

 

 

They did the same thing when they brought Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens onto Raw. They kept going on and on about their feud in NXT and the matches they had prior to NXT forgetting that NXT is only on the Network and the other stuff is indy stuff, a large portion of the people watching Raw do not watch NXT and don't pay for the Network but the WWE kept going on and on about this feud, a feud that the majority of viewers have never seen before so how are they gonna get excited for it?

 

 

There's a way to do mainstream wrestling, the WWE used to know how to do this. They knew how to do video packages and vignettes introducing new wrestlers but in the past few years they've got this attitude that all you need to do is stick them on Raw, with little to no introduction and just assume the audience knows who they are. It doesn't work like that.

That's what wrestling should be about . Big larger than life characters. People that you don't see in everyday life. It's star power. Star attraction. No different than the big movie actors or the big singers and bands. You get people that are a cut above the rest. Wrestling used to have this in spades.

 

 

Of course people are into Braun Strowman and the Big Show. They are literally larger than life. That's why NXT doesn't draw with casuals. I don't even know who the wrestlers are. Who's that other guy from the other page, what's his name? Shenmue? I know a lot of people say he is meant to be good but he doesn't look like a star at all. Even AJ Styles on the show is a shock for me. What casual fan is gonna sit and watch him? It's not believable.

I think we are talking maybe thousands at the most thinking that ^^^^^^

 

 

I think the other 3 million viewers on Raw are thinking...........who's this fat guy that's the champion, why is his belly wiggling? Who are these other people?

 

 

 

 

I don't think 3 million people are at home even knowing their names. Which might be why the audience is still tuning out in droves.

lol it reminds me of that English wrestler, Doug Williams I think was his name. He used to do this thing where he would his wrist and start wiggling his around lol.

 

 

 

I'm easily pleased.

Apparantly they don't allow their satelites to fly over the poles and no one else has anything flying over them yet they can supposedly cover the rest of the Earth but not the 2 poles. Then you have thousands of scientists down there all year round and you would never know why they were there. Take the south pole for example. You will find no real photos of the south pole taken from space. None. The closest you'll get is what we have of Earth......an artists rendition. In other words NASA tells them what to draw and what colours to use.

You should also look into the North and South Poles and why NASA never releases pictures of them. I'm not saying the Hollow Earth theory is true but there's thousands of scientists at both poles all year round and we never hear what is happening down there (or up there). Just like the back side of the moon, pictures of everything else (supposedly) but nothing for the dark side.

 

 

 

 

The truth of the matter is this, we know nothing about why we are here or how we came to be here. Human beings have been here a lot longer than 2000 years. We just go through our life hoping for the best. Hoping that in the final stretch that we are at peace. I don't know what to expect but I certainly don't think the only intelligent life is on this planet. I don't think we are alone at all but yet we are led to believe we are. It's strange how the biggest story in human history.....IS human history. We don't even know our own history.

And on the subject of flat Earth, this is one of the many things the Mandela Effect is having on the world. We don't have a real picture of Earth do we? Don't NASA always say in the small print that any images of Earth are actually an artists representation. Kinda like the moon is meant to have like a browny coloured surface but yet all we have is photos showing it to be grey because that is what we see from Earth but that's meant to be a thing in the atmosphere that makes it appear like that. Infact isn't that the case for all planets? Anytime you see a picture of a planet it's actually an artist's drawing? It's not real at all.

 

 

 

I will give NASA some credit, they have started showing photos of Mars with a blue sky when for years they would photoshop them to have red skies and red rocks. Now people are seeing real colour photos of Mars. It's a shame they wont show the same with the Moon or give a real genuine picture of Earth.

Beautiful women. They need to start putting some scottish women in these things. I'd definately watch it.