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The rules in my borough Sandwell now are obscene, through this whole pandemic theve said outdoors is the least risk of the virus spreading . But now they are saying I can meet up in a rammed pub with 5 other people but I can’t have my parents in my garden . The rules are that ridiculous now most people won’t follow them. 
 

The whole test system is an absolute shambles , the only way to get on top of this virus is testing , we weren’t prepared in March and we aren’t prepared now . The fools were saying they will be testing ten million a day by Xmas now they can’t even do 200k . 
 

is there anything theve done right during this whole pandemic? 
 

This government are an absolute joke 

Apparently, councils agreed to restrictions but the restrictions agreed were no meeting in homes or gardens . The hospitality sector was not included or never discussed. Matt hannock changed the statement without ever agreeing with the councils 

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/fury-confusion-matt-hancock-appeared-18922013

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/live-updates-birmingham-brink-lockdown-18895754

They are absolute clowns 

it’s been cleared up now that it is just homes and gardens u can’t mix , but u can legally mix with 6 people in a pub bar or restaurant. 
 

so what there saying is I can go on an all day session in a pub all day but going back to my house for drinks isn’t allowed . It’s mad 

4 hours ago, Harry Wiseau said:

So the Birmingham Lockdown begins on Tuesday (obviously) but from whats been said so far it seems that it comes down to - you can't have anyone round your house. Pubs, restaurants, shops, leisure centres, bingo halls, cinemas, saunas appear to be ok but you can't have your mom (that's how it's said / written in Birmingham) round for lunch. So my parents now can't pick up my kids from school on a Friday when both myself and wife are at work but if my kids could walk to walk to the closest pub then they could sit with them? Nice and clear. and "Birmingham" is a bit vague, is it anyone with a B postcode? obviously it'll all be clarified shortly and make perfect sense. 

You can’t mix households mate that’s the main thing whether that be in the house , pub or restaurant . Your only supposed to stay in your household group . So I can go to the pub with my missus but not my mates . I’m in Sandwell . 
 

its mental to think last week the government were paying for my tea 3 nights a week , telling me to send my children back to school cause it’s safe , telling all office staff to stop working from home and get back in the office to help local towns and the economy, encouraging social activity. I know there’s social distancing in place but if your going out more with or without social distancing it’s going to spread more .
 

Now there telling me I can’t see anyone other then my wife and kid, but I can mix with people at work and mix with people when I drop my kid off . The whole thing is getting tiresome now 

I love how people are deflecting from what I’m saying because it’s the truth 😃there’s no argument to it , pick on a spelling mistake or ask for a video ( would it even matter I’m sure it would be twisted round to seeing something how you want to see it)Truth hurts Hypocrites!

Your marching round ( I bet none of you even go on these protests) acting like Britain is a racist country , when in fact your the problem with this country!! 

3 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

Next time you all update your iPhones, there'll be a preloaded racist rant on there that you won't be able to get rid of.

Fortunately for me im not the racist , think it’s closer to home with you lot. 

I see what type of people some of you are , you claim your against racism yet turn a blind eye towards racism when it suits you and see racism when it suits you , It’s all one way . your just a bunch of hypocrites . Racism is racism when it suits you but if it doesn’t suit you it doesn’t count. 

pointless debating with people like that , your the problem in society, the ones that nit pick at every little thing that get offended by every little thing but only when it suits you and the way you see things .  
 

racism is across the board , if your against racism it works towards every type of racism but some of you only see it one way and it’s the way you want to see it . 

Your not worth the time or effort and like I said you create the racism when it suits you!

8 hours ago, David said:

Basically, that if he'd said for people not to shop in black or Asian-owned shops he'd have been crucified, he's subjected to racism as a traveller, travellers are the only people that it's okay to be racist towards, colour doesn't exist to him as he's got the most diverse team in boxing, Joshua will lose a lot of fans for what he said, that kind of shite.

I like big Fury, he's a hell of a fighter and I'll still want him to win over Joshua to complete the amazing comeback from where he was a few years back, but by fuck is he not the sharpest tool in the shed.

You'd hope he'd have learned to just keep his mouth shut. He got into hot water years back for being a moron, and it seems he's not learned anything from that.

So you don’t agree that if fury had of said that but the opposite way round there wouldn’t have been a bigger fuss made ? 
 

What Joshua has said has been brushed under the carpet so you really think the same would have happened if Fury said the exact same words but the other way round ? 

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8425483/amp/Tyson-Fury-blasts-Anthony-Joshuas-bull-Black-Lives-Matter-speech.html

Tyson Fury talking sense as always 

45 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

If you don’t think you’re racist because you don’t agree with racism, or because you have a friend or friends that are black, that’s great. But just because that’s what you do, doesn’t mean everyone does. 
 

if you think racism doesn’t exist because you’re not a part of the problem, or it’s never effected you, doesn’t stop racism, systematically or personally being a problem.

My godson is mixed race. My daughter from birth has had my friends, and there kids in her life. She had no idea skin colour was an issue. When she was 4, she bought a book about Rosa Parks from a kids range called Little People, Big Dreams (highly recommend the series to any parents here btw). My wife read it to her, and my daughter said to her, “does that mean I couldn’t be friends with Tobias and Josiah then?” My wife said reading the book she felt sick, having to explain what used to happen and what segregation meant. My daughter, through those books and others understands more about racism then I ever got taught a school. 
 

Right now is a great opportunity for people to listen and learn. There is no magic plaster, there is no quick fix, but if we don’t try and change our ways, it will always be an issue. I just hope that we can raise the next generation to be better then a lot of us would be. But that also means in school we do teach more about the history of slavery, issues of race and diversity so we can all do better. But just saying I’m not racist so racism doesn’t exist here, isn’t enough.

On that point I read a column, and his point of view on the statues were they should be left alone as a symbol of how far society has come. I agree and disagree with him I see both sides of the argument.

on the teaching about slavery at school , I’m not agreeing with you but I’m not disagreeing with you . My question would be would that cause a divide in the class room ,would young black kids be picked on in classes about this . Would It educate young white kids it to thinking how it was then and that they can do that now  ? Would it do more harm then good ? 
 

my daughter has baby dolls and some of them are black dolls . The way I teach her is you call this doll by its name not by its skin colour . I would hate for her to say “dad I want my brown doll “ instead she calls it Anna belle. I would hate for her to come home from school and say I’m playing with the Indian girl dad , but she doesn’t she calls that person by her name . In my opinion if all kids are brought up like that  then skin colour would never be an issue 
 

I thought society had come that far that we identify people by their names not by their colour or religion? 

45 minutes ago, jazzygeofferz said:

Saw a friend post this on her Facebook this morning. BLM protestors helping one of the other group get out of there for medical attention after they'd been battered. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/black-lives-matter-protest-carries-injured-far-right-safety-waterloo-london-a9564946.html

That should be the image of the whole weekend 

38 minutes ago, ReturnOfTheMack said:

But to him its had an effect on his entire life. By ignoring his skin colour you ignore his struggles and his journey through life.

You may find the following article to be of interest.

https://theeverygirl.com/i-dont-see-color/

He hasn’t struggled that’s the point he was making , his skin colour has made no difference to his life , it did his dad but not him . He has had every opportunity I have had 

52 minutes ago, PunkStep said:

Ignorance is massively damaging. To dismiss any notion that racism isn't a very real issue in this country is almost as problematic as racism itself. If you cannot see a reason to change, and many others share this stance, then what will change?

 

There have been MANY instances of monkey chants mad at football games in this country over the past couple of years. Many. Rudiger, Fred, Sterling, Renee Hector. These are instances I can recall from the top of my head. 

 

So? Just because we've made massive strides it doesn't mean racism doesn't still exist. We have come a long way but it's not enough.

 

How will these marches 'create' racism? It will bring racist views to the surface, which have been bubbling under- that's not the same as creating racism. I don't think somebody is all of a sudden going to think 'hang on a minute, I don't like black people any more because they are protesting'. No. Those people will have always had racist views, but they now have a platform to express this because the counter-protest marches (which are nothing more than racist marches, let's be honest) have enabled these views.

Of course it was happening before, and I suppose my last response above works here too. The George Floyd death has highlighted once again (and this is not an isolated incident) that the Western world is rife with racism, and a high-profile incident like this puts eyes on the problem. When eyes are on the problem, that's an opportunity to raise awareness that we still have SO much work to do.

 

In your first post you stated 'By the way I’m not a right wing supporter, right wing left wing it’s all A load of bollcoks', and here you open with 'you lefties'. I think that speaks volumes. Anyway, why is it a 'leftie' thing to want our society rid of racism? Answer me that. Is it ever going to be perfect? No, I don't suppose it ever will. But we are still so far from it, so to dismiss this by saying 'well, it's not as bad as it used to be, so let's just leave it there shall we?' is a very dangerous and damaging viewpoint to have.

 

When did that happen?

Just to make a comment on being called a troll 🙂 if throwing a different point of view  to your own is trolling then what’s the point in having a debate ? Not aimed at you punk by the way 

The point I’m trying to make is equality is there it has been for years , people marching for equality when they have it . Nobody will ever convince me otherwise 

Yeah racism ushers it’s ugly head from time to time but in our society it’s unacceptable. Before it was acceptable and people have done a lot along the way to make it unacceptable. You can’t do more then making it unacceptable in society I’m sorry your can’t. 
 

You mentioned the football games , yes I know the incidents your talking about but you can’t compare that to abuse received in the 1970’s when that was the Norm and the large majority of the grounds did it . Your talking about incidents were it’s 1 in 50,000 . 
 

I honestly believe this is causing a big divide then the one you speak of . It can create bigger problems . If the Churchill statue comes down it will cause mass riots everywhere and for what ? 
 

it’s a good point you make about me using the word lefties , I take that back shouldn’t have said that . 

a lot of this is media driven , the media are stirring the pot . Anything that’s aimed towards a black person in the media is a race attack when it could be far from it. Don’t believe everything you read . Some people automatically presume it’s racism when there may have been issues nothing to do with skin colour 
 

i was in fact behind the whole thing when it started. The murder of George Floyd was disgusting. I remember my football club tweeting a picture of “together were stronger “ what a message that is by the way . Some fan tweeted back saying he wants a refund for his season ticket and Albion replied saying you won’t be missed . I thought that was amazing . There’s nothing prouder for me being a West Brom fan knowing how my club developed black culture in the 70’s , nothing prouder . 
 

then what turned me away from it was black people saying we want equality. You have equality it’s been achieved by your dads and grandparents. That’s my point of view and I don’t think anyone can say otherwise. 
 

then you had the statues being attacked . You know what I thought when that statue came down in Bristol? I thought well why was there a statue of a slave trader anyway ? So I don’t really have an issue with it , but it’s history it’s gone and we’re does it end , do you tear everything down that 200 plus years old cause anything that old would have links to some form of slavery . Is just black people being slaves that people have issues with? Do you tear Rome down cause they used to throw Slaves to the lions in the coliseum? We’re do you stop with it ? 
 

39 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

This is the stupidest sentence I've ever read.

The point I’m making is I don’t see him as a black friend I see him as his name , the colour of his skin has no interests to me . 

9 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said:

By your own admission, things can always improve. And while we've come a long way from how black people were overtly excluded from society, there's still a lot of underlying and less obvious racism going on in the world. Just because they're not being made to sit at the back of the bus or things like that, it doesn't mean that the racism that still exists isn't worth fighting against. The way you're talking makes it sound like we should just be happy with how far we've come already.

No I’m not mate what I’m saying is society today is maybe as good as your going to get as regards racism. Your not going to eradicate it completely that’s my point. It’s impossible, pricks will always be pricks . 
 

british society is multi cultural, there’s equal rights for everyone and racism is unacceptable in society, that’s how it is , there was a day it wasn’t that’s how it is today , it’s hard to see how it gets any better then that. If you could eradicate racism completely then great I’m on the protests but it’s not going to happen 

i was talking to one of my black friends about it. Which I despise calling him a black friend cause he isn’t that to me but I’ve got to call him that on here to make the point .  His words were . My dad came here from Jamaica and went through hell to pave the way for people like him to have a good life here . He said he is married with 3 kids who all go to school owns his own house owns his own business , never had any forms or equality thrown against him he said what do I have to moan about it’s my dad that did the hard work . 

4 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said:

So you think that literally nothing should change whatsoever? Well you're lucky that you have a life that makes you feel that way. Many don't.

Society can always improve mate and luckily for us over the years it always has by in large . But I honestly think this BLM March is protesting for something that by in large has already happened . You will never get a perfect society 

I’d love to know what people want society to change into that it wasn’t before George floyds death . A perfect society is never going to happen . Society in Britain is as good as you will find it anywhere in the world as regards equality and being a multi cultural society 

13 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

Have you been living in a box for four years?

What’s happened in the last 4 years then ? Have we had race riots for 4 years ? Or was it 4 years ago we went back to the 1970’s or are we going further then the 1970’s? Was Britain not multi cultural and everyone had as good of right to anything no matter what race or religion they were? 

4 minutes ago, Joe Blog said:

Seemingly so. It's Sunday and I want to have a nice day so I am not wasting my time arguing with someone who thinks having a multicultural street is equality. 

It is equality, because all these people have jobs , they wasn’t discriminated against in getting those jobs or buying these houses . They live and earn just like any white person does . They send their kids to the same school as I do , they go to the same restaurants and shops as I do . 

Equality means being equal and it’s disrespectful to even suggest these people aren’t equal , everybody’s equal . 

11 minutes ago, Joe Blog said:

I'm not going to argue with you about your stance on racial equality in this country, the facts and figures are out there for any one to research. 

Claiming all this will only increase racism is bollocks. Anyone that defends,sympathisers or agrees with the right wing or on the people opposing the marches on this are already racist and therefore won't become any more racist, well they might but fuck them anyway.

Excuse the pun but racism is very black and white, you are either a racist or you are not. There are no ifs and buts. Has the UK gotten better since the 70's? Yes it has, it is fair? Absolutely not. 

So you don’t think Ripping the Churchill statue down isn’t going to cause a lot of problems ? When was the last time ridiculous scenes like we’ve seen over the past few weeks Happen ? not to even mention we’re in the middle of a pandemic.

There’s a tipping point for anything just like brexit, whether you agree with it or not people voted to leave and the main reason was immigration , people start resenting things which is what happened with immigration in this country 

is it fair ? Yeah it is , it’s as fair as it will ever be. I’ll go and take a walk round my estate shall I ? I live next door to an Indian couple who live next door to a black family , there’s a polish family that live on the end of the road , there’s Chinese people living On the estate . My daughter goes to school with people from all backgrounds, i work and my friends are people from all walks of live . I’m sorry but thatS equality and fair , what is it that has to change ? Am I missing something ? To say society isn’t fair is absolutely ludicrous, take a look in the history books that’s un fair 

I would love someone to name me an industry  that refuses to employ a black person ? 
 Or a university that doesn’t educate a Black person ? Or a school that doesn’t educate a black kid ? 
 

It doesn’t happen in today’s society hasn’t for a long while. You lefties really need to look into your history and see how far this country has come probably more then any other country in the world on racism. Is it perfect ? no it’s never ever going to be perfect 

23 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

A load of actual fascists attacked innocent people yesterday and people are queuing up to tell us it's just like the minority who were looking for trouble in the BLM protests.

I actually think, amongst his racist nonsense, bono has a point. As a nation, we had made massive strides in educating people and making racism criminal and intolerable. However, this hasn't suddenly been eroded by two weeks of BLM protests, it's come off the back of the last five years of the leave campaign, our current government and national newspapers stirring up tension and hatred of immigrants, past and presents, and emboldening the closet racists and fascists. This didn't suddenly change in two weeks.

No it hasn’t changed in two weeks I totally agree with you but the longer this thing goes on the more damage it will do to society, it will create racism and cause divide these people originally protesting have ever seen . Their marching for equality when the results will be the total opposite. 
 

if society was that bad and Black people were getting abused left right and center , not getting jobs not getting into university’s or schools.  Not having equality why wasn’t all this happening before George floyd death ? 
 

i 100% agree with you it’s all media driven and people have fallen for it . 
 

I also agree that some cracks formed with all this leave nonsense, it brought out the uneducated pricks that for some reason think they have more of a right to live here then anyone else. But I honestly think that all got washed away and eventually everyone got on with it , was all that even linked to black British people anyway from were I was looking It was people taking aim at immigration 

and for people saying o I heard someone being called black this or I heard someone being called Chinese this . So do you think these marches rioting pulling down statues will change these pricks saying this? Really ? Certain people will never change and shame on you for letting it happen . I’ve seen racists take beatings were I live for the same things . You know why ? Cause it isn’t accepted in society and If you’ve sat there and watched it happen then your part of the problem as well 

7 hours ago, Rabzeen said:

I once got chatting to this 70 something odd black woman whilst at a bus stop in Grimsby who looked like crap. She took a different route home the other week and got the crap kicked out of here for walking down the wrong street. Just because you have never seen racism it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 

 

 

Never said it doesn’t exist. It will never go away completely, if someone is a Wanker then there not gonna change . This country has come so far with all this bollocks yet what’s happening now is taking us back . 
 

it was only in the 1970’s were black people had to sit on a certain side of the bus or have playgrounds were split in half to separate white and black kids . It was in the 1970’s were black players had bananas thrown at them at football games , were monkey chants were a normal thing . Go back further in history and it will make you sick to the stomach , would all this happen today ? No it wouldn’t and it hasn’t happened for a long while 
 

people need to look at there history and compare society today to how it was . Show me any industry that isn’t equal these days show me any school that isn’t mixed race ? Any university that doesn’t have people from all sorts of background in , show me a football club that doesn’t have players from all over of all colour playing for them ? Show me we’re racism is accepted in society? 
 

I bet all these protesters have jobs , live in houses in mixed race streets , have some form of education 
 

what can change today ? Someone please tell me ? British society is equal rights!Do people not see we progressed so much that all this shit is taking us backwards ? 

6 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said:

Yes, because it didn’t happen according to the emergency services, and the footage of him getting up after the incident. But I’m sure you telling the blacks that there has always been equality will be of great comfort to them. 

“ the blacks “ 

you mean English people that have as much of right to anything in this country .

it didn’t happen ? Videos don’t lie mate people do ? 

8 hours ago, SuperBacon said:

It's just pathetic, but at least making them look fucking ridiculous makes them even more pathetic.

 

Are you choosing to ignore the footage of a right wing protesters having his throat cut by a BLM Supporter ? Or are you ignoring the videos of BLM supporters running through the streets hunting down right wing supporters ? Or the footage of right wing supporters being booted round the floor like footballs ? Are you ignoring that cause it’s not the side your on ? Like the media like to ignore things and spoon feed people into believing what they want you to believe? 
 

By the way I’m not a right wing supporter, right wing left wing it’s all A load of bollcoks Why can’t people just get on , who cares what colour somebody’s skin is or what religion they are . We’re past all this as a country have been for years 

Was society that bad beforehand? These BLM marches for equality? Really ? I’m 34 years old and there’s always been equality for Black people ,racism has always been unacceptable in society so why are spoilt brats that’s wouldn’t even know racism if it slapped them in the face storming round like it’s the 1970’s ? Middle class white kids jumping on the bandwagon cause there university’s are closed . What do they want to change ? I’m sorry but your not finding a more multi cultural country then Britain . We’re people of all races and religions live together, live in the same community’s , eat together, work together etc etc London is the most liberal multi cultural city in the world . I ask again was society that bad beforehand? What is going to change ? What can change ? It’s changed thank god , thank goodness we live in a country as good as this were everyone is accepted , so what are people protesting for ? 

I live in West Brom , I work with numerous nationalities, my daughter goes to school with numerous nationalities . My football club are pioneers for black culture and fighting for equality in not just football in local communities. these people protesting, there fathers grandfathers went through absolute hell to get equal rights for their kids and grand kids. 

do they think racism will totally be eradicated? Twats will always be twats it will always be there fortunately we live in a country we’re it’s unacceptable and at a minimum, go to Russia and Eastern Europe that’s racism 

all this bullshit is creating racism and taking us back 40 years , it’s all aload of bollocks !

On 7/26/2019 at 6:49 PM, jimufctna24 said:

UFC 242 will be shown on BT Box Office:

https://twitter.com/btsportufc/status/1154791126345375745/photo/2

Was any numbers ever released for the jon jones Ppv? Wonder how many bt sold?