Georgie Pin

This Illuminati is awfully inconsistent. It's amazing how they can orchestrate such things as stated above without anyone except all the Super Special Awake People Like Dynamite Duane noticing what they're up to, yet they can't even manage their own evil finance system without turning the put-upon public against them. It seems like juggling some figures on a computer screen would be easier than executing schemes of false flag mass murders.

 

I wonder at what level of the hierarchy the system goes from oblivious buffoons to the evil denizens of Bohemian Grove. I'd say my bank manager and his regional boss probably aren't in on it, but the guy who is above them in the chain of command buries some of the bodies. And then the guy above him is a lizard.

I know your post is basically a dig at Duane, but you're coming off as a condescending prick.

 

It might sound condescending but it as actually pretty spot on. Icke can spout all he likes about secret societies and global elites running the world but he has yet to provide the smallest amount of actual empirical evidence to back it up. And I mean actual stand up in court type evidence not Princess Di was going out with a Muslim therefore she MUST have been murdered - no other explanation fits despite real, actual evidence to the contrary. (Bit like the Moon landings)

 

I remember seeing that total mong Richard D. Hall talking about the general election. One week he was saying the Lib Dems were the victims of the global elite who wanted the 2 party system to continue and had orchestrated a media campaign to destroy them. Literally the next week when they were in the coalition he was accusing them of being exactly the same as the other two parties. Well which one is it?

 

And that is the problem - they can't decide from one minute to the next who is actually running things. Is it the Masons, The Illuminati, The Bilderberg Group, The British Royal Family, The Jews, The Trilateral Commission, The UN, The EC, The World Bank? Who? It can't surely be all of them? Even one person from each would complicate things horrifically. Sitting on any commitee will convince you of that.

 

It's just so much nonsense with no consistency at all. The world is and always has been fucked up. Yes there are always people trying to control whatever they can and invariably they fail miserably through a mixture of incompetence, selfishness and other more selfish and ruthless people stopping them.

 

And as for the Freemen of the Land - fucking hilarious!

But then that's the nature of the interweb - you get to act the twat with no consequences.

Until you start posting "me and Megan" pictures, at least. Then there are some consequences.

 

To address one point personally - my best friend for the past 15 years is a woman. She's very attractive but more importantly she's a good friend. And that's where I don't get a lot of the posts. It's like some people really don't seem able to have a female friend without being totally fanny-struck. I have no desire to shag/go out with/marry my friend

Georgie, you liar! Either she's not attractive or you want to nail her, or you've seen her do a shit or something that put you off. But from the way Midas spoke about his "special" friendship, it was obvious he was head over heels.

 

Yeah the consequences were the piss-taking. Even I can see that!!

 

I never lie! The nearest I can get to that was when she farted in a lift to embarrass me.

 

I'm just a soft lefty probably to be honest.

Coming into this not knowing anyone involved I can understand an accusation of bullying. Yeah, the guy opened himself up to some piss-taking but it's gone beyond that in my opinion. But then that's the nature of the interweb - you get to act the twat with no consequences. You aren't looking the person in the face and you don't have to worry about getting your nose punched into your head. (Not that I'm saying he could do that).

 

To address one point personally - my best friend for the past 15 years is a woman. She's very attractive but more importantly she's a good friend. And that's where I don't get a lot of the posts. It's like some people really don't seem able to have a female friend without being totally fanny-struck. I have no desire to shag/go out with/marry my friend - it would totally change our relationship (obviously) and my life would be the less for it. Maybe I'm misreading some of the posts to be fair but come on - where's the love? Get MrMidas back here and forget about it. The fashion advice was good!

I've never been able to get into DiCaprio at all. He totally ruined Gangs of New York for me. I just couldn't take him seriously as a hard man and all round toughest guy on the block at all. He's too pretty - sorry but for me he didn't look the part and I haven't taken him seriously since. I admit that is purely down to my narrow-mindedness but I just seem to have come unstuck after that one role.

 

Inception sounds really interesting but sadly I don't know if I could enjoy it.

 

Can't watch watch anything with Tom Cruise in either.

I was going to post a pic but I'm an ugly fucker and my best friend is a bird so bollocks to that!

The 1993 explosion was a truck bomb. It wasn't attached to any internal structures of the building. It did cause considerable damage including cutting out the leccy to a fair proportion of New York I believe.

From my start date you can see I've been around for a while. I occasionally post on the wrestling forum but I used to post a lot more on here. For personal reasons I haven't for quite a while (nothing to do with anyone personally etc). Anyroadup, I just want to check what the atmos is like these days - can I expect a bit more aggression, more friendliness etc or, as I expect, a mixture!?

 

Cheers peeps.

There were some good points made in that video in my opinion. One thing that has been overlooked though is the report that the intense heat from the burning fuel melted the struts causing the building to collapse, but if the planes hit one side of the building then the melted struts would have caused the top part of the building to topple to one side instead of crumble out equally the way it did.

 

I'm no expert but this just seemed obvious to me.

 

The plane didn't stop dead as soon as it hit the building nor did the fuel inside it. Inertia alone would shoot the fuel forward over the full area of the building. Surely that's basic physics?

How on earth did they rig up 2 of the biggest skyscrapers on earth with that much explosives without a single person seeing anything or without a single person involved in the whole cover up ever saying a word about it? It would need a cast of thousands of people all of whom had no conscience or sense of right and wrong whatsoever to put that into effect. Now there might possibly be a couple of politicians like that but you'd struggle beyond that.

 

Not really, all it takes is a plant who is "fixing" the elevators to install them in the carriages for example, that is IMO one of the easiest things that could have been done.

 

I don't mean any disrespect at all mate but there's a lot more to it than putting some explosives in a lift. There's a lot more to it than wrapping tons of explosives around the interior struts. The amount of preperation that goes into bringing down even a relatively small building is amazing. You need to remove walls, concrete cladding and all sorts. You can't just blow up a strut and expect the biggest building in the US to fall down.

 

Loose Change have been clutching at straws for years along with all the other Truthers. It's horrible to think that there are people out there who are prepared to fly a passenger jet into a skyscraper but unfortunately there are.

The problem with the no plane theory is the little matter of 1000s of pieces of Boeings found all over Manhattan including the tops of other skyscrapers. Where did they instantaneously appear from?

 

How on earth did they rig up 2 of the biggest skyscrapers on earth with that much explosives without a single person seeing anything or without a single person involved in the whole cover up ever saying a word about it? It would need a cast of thousands of people all of whom had no conscience or sense of right and wrong whatsoever to put that into effect. Now there might possibly be a couple of politicians like that but you'd struggle beyond that.

I recently bought 2 boxes of UFO/paranormal books at a boot sale and getting through them at a fair speed. I highly recommend the series of books by Timothy Good and Nick Pope, albeit as time goes on their theories get evermore strange.

 

The best book I've read on the subject to date is Left At East Gate, which documents the Rendlesham Forest UFO sightings in the UK in 1980. It's not the best written book, which in a way is comforting because you get the sense that the author is just trying to document what happened rather than sensationalise it for the sake of a larger royalty cheque.

 

Just because I'm interested in this stuff though doesn't mean I believe it all. There are clearly authors who are exploiting the public's interest for financial gain, and fabricating (or at least grossly overstating) incidents in the process.

 

Timothy Good is hilarious - genuinely laugh out loud funny.

 

Nick Pope has gotten more and more desperate over the years to try and stay relevent to anything. He was a low level pen-pusher in the civil service who basically took notes. To try and pretend that he was party to anything is again hilarious.

 

Basically, they're both hilarious.

Very well put.

 

I may have posted this before but I highly recommend watching this video by a very down to earth bloke.

John Harris - 'It's an illusion' talk at the Stoke 'Lawful Rebellion' Conference

 

Freeman of the Land is such a load of old nonsense. Good luck with tthat one.

First of all Keelan I'm fully with you and I'm glad that somebody has put forward our arguments as well as you have, as I haven't had the time to do so myself. I am a firm believer that more and more are waking up to what is really happening everyday. It is hard for most to recognise and accept that most of their life has been a complete lie and most of what people know is from what a controlled media have told them.

 

I have a question Georgie. Do you believe vaccines are truly safe when the five big giants have all been involved in eugenics programmes?

 

What on earth kind of arguement is that? It makes no sense whatsoever.

 

Yes, vaccines are perfectly safe. If you mean are they 100% safe then no they aren't. Any medical intervention involves risks from open heart surgery to having a tooth out. There are millions of people who lived a full life thanks to vaccines and it is a total disgrace that children in particular are dieing from preventable diseases in ever larger numbers because of the crap being peddled by the anti-vacs and conspiracy nuts. Their evidence is non-existent and flies in the face of every study into the subject. If I want medical advice I'll get it from someone qualified not Jenny fucking McCarthy or some paranoid guy in middle America.

Gotta get that anti-semitism in there too, eh? Some things never change. You'll be quoting The Protocols of the Elders of Zion next.

 

The problem with most people who get involved in this woo is that they lose the ability to distinguish patent nonsense from something that might have a vague scraping of truth somewhere abut its person. You have to believe every conspiracy just in case you get it wrong. Just watch Controversial tv for a few hours to hear some of the crap these people come out with, 2012 being the current bullshit of choice. Always moving on when one "conspiracy" is shown to be bs - vaccinations being a case in point. First MMR causes autism - disproven, no wait it's the mercury - disproven, no we mean squalenes - disproven, let's move onto Hep B then and see what we can do there etc etc etc

 

It all boils down to conspiracy theorists wanting to feel special - "I'm party to special information and you're not." And are they trying to form a world government or not? One minute you say that's what they are all actually actively trying to do and the next you're saying they don't meet up but it's roughly what they all want. So which is it?

Is Steve Logan still alive? The London one not the K-Star guy.

 

Cheers.

So it was Barrymore not Razor dishing out the hugs! No wonder Bret didn't get on with any of them!!

Was there a reason for that quote that I'm missing ?

Other than that I had a total brain fart - no there was no point!! Apologies all round!

Linus is right. I've had a bit of thinking to do.I want to stress that this whole thing started as a joke - a rather silly parody of a parody that was a combination of a rather perverse patriotism and my overwhelming desire to troll Mo Chatra whenever and wherever the opportunity arises. A bunch of people voted - not a huge number, but enough voters with enough different suggestions and enough interesting and worthwhile comments to make me think that the whole thing might be worth the effort after all. I've had a lot of fun doing the write-ups and I hope most people understand that very little of it is meant seriously. You'll maybe have noted that the SWA guys have had the shit ripped out of them more than the others. Partly that's because I've seen more of them so I know more about what people meant when they made certain comments, partly because I've seen them at all and so have had anything much to say, but mostly because I know them personally and they know that most of what I've said is either stuff I've said to them privately anyway or stupid shit that doesn't matter. Cage hasn't commented at all in public but has discussed his write-up with me. Micken and Bull have both read it, I know. Abraxas hasn't said anything (to me or publicly) one way or the other. And Con, shameless hawker that he is, is already coining it in on the strength of his position.Anyway, for what it's worth, I'd like to offer a little counterpoint before we go on - the UKFF Big Baws 15, in honour of the guys with the big baws to go out and bump their arses off in one of Scotland's two very shaky-looking rings for our mindless entertainment.No. 15 - Tommyboi - let's be honest, the 'Mania parties have been fucking great fun. He may be a complete Bawbag online, but offline he's genuinely nowhere near as awful. And it either takes GINORMOUS baws or a serious brain trauma to make someone post a pic like that in a publicly accessible folder. MC Tommy, we salute you!No. 14 - Jonny Lions - I know jack about the guy, but there were a fair few people watching him on those videos. He didn't look dangerous. Fuck it, dude. If you're pissed off and think the vote was unfair, send tapes out to some more reputable promoters and see if they'll think about using you.No. 13 - Drew McDonald - OK, I like Drew. A lot. He's been around the block more times than you've had hot dinners. MOJ has a completely irrational hatred of the man, but in the dressing room or in the ring, Drew McDonald is business to the fucking bones. Whatever you think of his work, the guy has earned EVERYONE's respect.No. 12 - Brad Fusion - I used to love him. I've not seen him in a while, but he had a great body, cool highspots and with a bit of spit and polish could have been a top player. I just hope he takes this as encouragement to push himself on to that next level.=11 - Abraxas - Has potential to be an excellent brawler. Needs to get more aggressive, though. And work on his legs. =11 - Rob McKai - LOLZ.No. 10 - Carl Conroy - Good look. Good mouth. Good promoter, I hear. But a big guy doing too much matwork, eh? Stand up and kill people with forearms and corner splashes, dude! No. 9 - Killian - Is actually pretty freaky to stand next to. He's a big, big man. Once it all clicks for him and he figures out to use it right, he will make small children cry and use the pillow of their mothers' bosoms to hide their sad, ruddied faces from the scary man.No. 8 - Micken - Lives to be a bad guy. I mean, just utterly unlikeable in any way whatsoever. Sleazy, smarmy, nasty, cowardly, selfish, arrogant...oh, sorry. You wanted me to talk about him as a wrestler? Yeah, he's OK, I s'pose. Actually does wear a bin bag to the ring though. Chant this at him next time you see him.No. 7 - Raging Bull - DOES know how to work as a big, evil, fat man. Story time~! I used to take my girlfriend's nephew to SWA shows. He loved them (he's a huge mark for Falcon, White Tiger, Majik and Con, by the way). So anyway, one day shortly after Bull turned on Scott Renwick, he asks me "Kenny, does Raging Bull work in <a shop>?" I said, "yes, I think he does work there," then enquired "did you talk to him?". "No," said the youngster, sadly. "I was too scared of him after what he did to his partner last time." The Raging Bull doesn't make kids cry. He makes them shit themselves a fortnight after shows.No. 6 - Bravehart - Looks to have a decent body and be an actual adult man. This is a good start.No. 5 - Highlander - Hey, he's out there running shows that guys enjoy working on and he has a training school that's turned out some really, really good wrestlers. Unless I've got my wires crossed, Wolfgang and Darkside (who both just got very good UKFF 50 ranks) both came from there, while Drew Galloway/McIntyre put in a lot of hours there too. If he's doing that and making some money, fair play to the guy.No. 4 - Mike Musso - Looks great. Lovely guy in person. If he finds a gimmick that suits him, he will go far.No. 3 - Kongo Kev - Meh. I know nothing. Although again, he had a fair crowd on this videos.No. 2 - KG Tyler - Knows what he's trying to do. May well get there - hey, DDP did. I'd prefer to see him as the wise-ass manager of an indestructible A-List, but you take what you can get. After all, most of his matches feature Darko now, so it's not all bad.No. 1 - The i-Baw - God bless Conscience. Seriously, if there's a penny to be made somewhere, this guy's probably doing it. That's because he works harder than perhaps anyone I've ever known in wrestling, and I think that covers some ground. Works too hard in the ring, but I guess that's much better than being a guy who half-arses everything because it's his show and he doesn't have to try. Good guy who's done more for Scottish wrestling than anyone. Go to The Gathering. Hell, even if he's shit, there's Wolfgang Vs. Martin Stone in the main event. Now, you'll note that I've not yet posted the number one. That's because of what I'm about to post separately. I should confess that I feel absurdly bad about who came top, but mostly because with the top few names so close, I was concerned that with my naming of the email address for the the poll, I had unduly influenced the electorate. However, as I made clear on a number of occasions, I didn't vote and I didn't make up comments. I just re-hashed everything other people had said. Yes, I take responsibility for the results in the way a referee takes responsibility for a boxing match. But if a boxer gets knocked out or even killed, it's not the referee that punched him.So what exactly is my point here? Well, just that I'm saying nothing about the man who "won" this poll with a margin of more than 15%. Someone else says it all soooooo much better...

Having been quite negative about this whole thing earlier, I think this is a good post. I still think some of the stuff said on these threads is uncalled for, especially about wrestler's wives etc. but a round-up like this gives something back at least. The original Shitarse left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth and I make no apologies for it - perhaps a round-up like this might have made a difference.

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No, it is about being abusive, that's quite obvious Kenny - you wrote them up. You can't have failed to notice. I just don't get the "having a laugh at the expense of the crappiest wrestlers in the country in order to (hopefully) persuade them to get their shit together and get better." That isn't actually the point and everyone knows it. I'm not saying a lot of these guys aren't bad but lets face it; it's all turning into a chance for people to try and get a smart-ass comment quouted.And though I don't really feel I should need to, sadly I feel I have to say that I'm not trying to troll or flame anyone. I'm just stating a view contrary to a lot of others. Cheers.

Going out on a limb here but am I the only one getting bored of this "hilarious" type of thread? Haven't seen the majority of them so I can't comment on how appropriate they are to be listed on a subjective thread of this type. It just seems like it's a suitable excuse for a small number of people to be as abusive as they possibly can about people they don't like. Maybe it is just me then.

Haven't posted on here much at all for ages but it just seems the right place. (If Stuey's around - Hey bro.)I've felt slightly numb all day. It's appallingProbably the most respected wrestler of his generation is gone and his reputation is destroyed. Two innocent people dead by his hands. His ex-employer churning out press reports in a sad and obvious attempt at damage limitation. It's been said before many times but is this now the defining moment, the turning point in professional wrestling where the employer is forced to take responsibility for the people they employ? (and they employ them - they are NOT self-employed).Where they have a "Wellness Program" and have Bobby Lashley as a champion. Where they have a "Wellness Program" and have the commentators mock Chris Masters for his non-steroid physique and praise him when he again pumps up. Where they have a "Wellness Program" that is used to allow them to get rid of wrestlers they no longer want without compensation but allow them to use others on screen with a so called loss of earnings.Wrestling is important to me but it's not that important

How long was Man Mountain Rock in the WWF in 1995? I don't really remember him apart from the guitar playing before he wrestled. Did he have any notable feuds?

Nope, not a single feud. Don't know how long he was there and dont remember anything about any of his matches either. Think he just did a few squashes on Superstars and faded away.

This is all a bit hazy! Did he have a minor feud with Rad Radford or did he team with him? Or am I imagining the whole thing!?

If American indy groups had no ring, no equipment and no anything they would just be the same as these kids, just give them a chance. I think they have bottle to go through that, just last night i was talking to a kid not involved in BYW and he as joined a wrestling school.He is quite big and would like to specialise in Mat/ Submission, but on his first few lessons what as he HAD to learn CARTWHEELS, come on and you wonder why these kids do this because they feel as if they are not needed. We have so much undiscovered Talent out there and if these kids were given the chance they would train and become better then any of the yanks you see in RENTBOYS ON HEAT Oh sorry i think you call it RING OF HONOUR

Yadda yadda yadda - all Brits are great, all Yanks are crap etc etc etc. A dumb fuck from Portsmouth hasn't even got the balls/intelligence to travel a mile or so to get trained by pros? It's got nothing to do with having bottle; it's to do with having no brain. They don't do it because 'they feel as if they are not needed' (they aren't needed); they do it because they think it makes wrestlers.Your obsession with hating the 'Yanks' is wearisome. Wrestling has changed - get used to it.BYW, if an 'indy group' had no ring, no equipment and no anything they would be backyarders, American or not.

I think Drazic's eyes are pretty much what most people will think. backyarding iswrestling's dirty little cousin that its hard to see backyarding objectively.Most people watching that will know immediately that BYW is not pro-wrestling.It can't harm industry that actively speaks against it and has wrestlers doingtalks at schools warning kids of the dangers of attempting BYW.As a documentary the programme was entertaining and informative. Itpresented BYW as exactly what it is. For those of us who have zero experienceof BYW now we have seen for ourselves exactly what these kids get up andhow dangerous what they do really is. It makes it more important to us toencourage kids who have tried BYW or are thinking of it to go and finda school to train in. Hey, if not wrestling school then find a martial arts gym - justsomething that will channel all that energy.To those who felt there was no moralising by the producers, I will answer thatas a person involved in filmmaking for the last 15 years. Its not the job of the documentary filmmaker to moralise, only to inform - you make your ownmind from the information presented.The kids themselves seem to be lonely types looking for a group of mates theycan fit into.... Whatever happened to the youth clubs? Perhaps if local councilsdidn't close them then there would be less reason for BYW groups to start upin certain areas. My point being that there are other reasons other than beinga fan of wrestling why BYW groups start up. We would all like BYing to finish.The only way we can help stop BYW is to look at the reasons why kids mayget into it a little more objectively. The hostility towards the kids will onlyactively encourage them. Don't forget teenagers are just that - teenagers, withthe temperaments and emotional ups and downs teenagers are known for.What may seem logical to you as an adult isn't so rational to a teenager.

Sorry Elisar but I think it can harm wrestling. I've already had 'Did you see that program about wrestling last night?' Not backyard wrestling; just wrestling. Wrestling is not taken seriously in any way and it will take more than a program like this to change that view.No-one knows that wrestlers have spoken out against it or that the industry is against it because no-one outside of wrestling fans have any contact with it. That to most people is just another form of pro-wrestling.Yes, teenagers will always do silly things when they're bored. However, I don't condone nicking cars and maiming your mate in a crash anymore than I do backyarding. They claimed to be wrestling fans and desperate to be wrestlers - well then show some commitment.