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Surely this means Cena vs Orton is happening in the near future. Champion vs Champion. Im not sure whether theyd unify the belts but having the 2 champs square off to see who is the "Face of WWE" is just about the biggest thing they can do. And is something I want to see.

Has anyone seen his challenge to Bully Ray?

 

Cor, he's fucking awful isn't he?

 

What a shitehole.

I liked it - it seemed like the 1st time in ages he's actually put any effort into anything. I'm actually interested in what's happening next week actually, should be a lot of fun.

They were silly separating him and Aksana so quickly. Those two worked well together and the five languages thing pretty entertaining.

Cesaro dumping Aksana in 5 languages should have sent him soaring up the card, but they wasted it on SmackDown! so no-one cared. Give it an extra few months, and he'd have been golden.

I always thought Cesaro was on the rise when he was picking up Khali and the fans were about to buy into him, but then they stuck him with The Miz, who seems to be killing everyone's momentum these days.

I felt both guys came across ok. Bryan's gimmick from a few months ago was that he was paranoid, so it fits in that he keeps bitching about Cena not respecting him. Saying Cena can't wrestle when he's the WWE Champion and he's beaten everyone totally destroys wrestling in a way. Cena didn't beat them in samba dancing, he beat them in a wrestling match.

Anyways, I also thought it was odd that Cena said he "couldn't think of a better special referee" than Triple H given that Triple H made a bad call in the last Summerslam main event he referee'd involving Cena losing the WWE Championship! I'm all for playing the face, but it's making him look a right mug. I did like during that segment when Triple H came to split them up, he'd be stern to Cena but he'd smile at Bryan.

I'm thinking we might get a dual turn. Triple H screws Cena, Bryan becomes a Corporate Champion with Orton chasing him. Bryan could do with hiring The Shield to stop Orton from constantly trying to cash-in.

I think the fact that they are both slightly missing the point is what could make this work.

I did think it was awkward when King & Cole reacted like Bryan looked amazing in a suit, when he actual fact, he came across like Alan from The Hangover. It's a shame that Barrett went the way it did - it could have worked out to be a pretty cool Sweeney Todd style gimmick for him.

It needs to turn out that actually Big E is into Layla and not AJ, that'd be awesome.

Ricardo bumped like an absolute mad man, but he's on the way out now, right? Unless he's going to team with the freak brigade of Khali/Hornswoggle/Natalya/Santino.

Titos music?

 

It's weird, it sounds like James Bond going out in the rain to buy chips or a broken television set in a room where someone is playing a cheap spy film theme tune. It's not the worst theme song I have heard but how is it fitting for an MMA fighter?

 

Unless the slow pace of the music indicates Ortiz won't actually be doing anything save being bald and having folded arms.

His music was a knock off of Mosh by Eminem, right? Wasn't the worse music for an MMA Fighter, but maybe he could have done with something a bit more high impact for a debut like that.

You then through Des have the RWA stuff and the you've had Shaun The Hammer Davis, Prince Ameen, Cameron Kraze, Dylan Roberts, Dean Allmark, GPW guys, The Blackpool Blonds (before they took events into their own hands), MVK (Again see Blonds) Rampage Brown and so on.

 

What happened with the Blonds?

I remember with Valkabious's case, he was meant to be sent out and be the latest victim for Shaun Davis, but instead of going out and putting him over, he changed everything about the match, went twice as long as they should have done and spent the match beating down Davis (who was PCW's Ryback at the time). Maybe The Blonds are something to do with that. They were also feuding with The Hammer when they left, right?

Unbreakable F'N Machines vs. Team Single is announced for Final Fight. It should be pretty interesting seeing UFM against a bigger team. There appeal seems to be in them holding small guys up in the air for a really long time. Now if Bubblegum could sneak into that team, it could have worked out perfectly. The fans would be desperate for them to throw 'Gum around but he'd just hide behind the massive Rampage or T-Bone.

Still, I might have to make my first trip to Preston for this.

Best case scenario right now is Jeff Jarrett. Theres no point wasting a massive big name on them, yet still Jarrett is a large enough name to TNA's existing fanbase that it'll come across as a big deal.

Well it's either him or Erik Watts.

Does the Tyler Breeze run the risk of being too similar to Fandango? Yeah they have different "professions" but the gimmick is the same. Slightly effeminate, image conscious yet athletic heels. The photo taking thing is fun but I'd rather see it as a slight update on the MNM gimmick, perhaps have him taking selfies with his battered opponent in the background or with guys in promos. If he created an Instagram, that would be a pretty fun way of using the gimmick to build their social media agenda.

I'm a massive support of the Sylvester LeForte & The Rednecks gimmick. On paper, its absolutely ridiculous but it works so well. They could definitely turn it around into a face gimmick too. It's amazing.

Although, NXT's biggest strength seems to be the entrances. They know the importance of them and the guys that really stand out are those with the best. Tyler Breeze's is amazing, and The Ascension is pretty unique also. All NXT needs now is a proper face tag team. None of this thrown together nonsense of Neville & Graves, I'm talking 2 guys with similar looks, identifiable gimmicks and a sick entrance. WWE would bring them up in no time.

Cheers. What

Out of curosity, has anyone ever been eliminated from the BFG Series for Kayfabe or Legit reasons. Just thinking, if any of the current lot are let go under the current circumstances, will there be a precident to explain them away?

Guys have been eliminated in the past due to both real (e.g. Pope last year) and storyline injuries (e.g. Crimson in 2011).

Wasn't Pope injured through Aces & Eights or am I making that up?

I remember Joe went on a rampage in first year and took a few guys out because he kept getting disqualified.

You chaps who watch NXT, is it in any way a template for what Raw might become once HHH is fully in charge? I mean the simple stories, emphasis on wrestling, that kind of thing? Is it a dry run for a different sort of tv, or just one of those WWE anomalies that fly under the radar and manage to be quite good?

I think it's too simple to work in the mainstream. As a 1 hour show with a small roster it works, but with 3 hour (or 2, if it ever goes back), it'll be overkill. You'd need the Cena promos and Vickie Guerrero skits to just break it up a bit.

Watching the I Quit Match between Mick Foley and Ric Flair and it's the most bizarre booking ever. If it was a double turn, it would have been pretty good. But this was the feud ender. Foley takes a massive bump, the doctor says "he's done" and rings the bell. Flair says "Fuck that" and beats him up some more when he cant really defend himself. Foley refuses to quit so Melina (who ran to help him) does and is crying. Flair refuses that and then goes to batter Melina and finally Foley quits.

Following that, you've got a heel Flair who'll do anything to win, and a face Foley & Melina friendship. But instead, you've got Flair remaining a face, and then Melina turning on Foley the next night. It makes no sense at all. I have no idea who booked it but it was baffling.

That whole period was pretty mental. There were tons of matches with mental bumps and barbed wire boards around that time. It must have been averaging 1 a pay-per-view from Wrestlemania through to Summerslam and then a good few ECWs in between.

I'm really liking "That 90's Guy" Xavier Woods. Great fun, and his theme is amazing. Love a wrestler singing along to his own music, too. "Lost in the Woods" is a shit name for a finisher though, even for a goofy character. Either of the names Gail Kim's used for the move (Sole Food/Eat Defeat) would actually work really well for Woods, if they can get away with nicking one (I know TNA use "Eat Defeat" now, but I don't recall if "Sole Food" was a prior TNA name, or used in WWE. Get the feeling it was the former, and they just changed it on a whim). Otherwise, give it a name with a 90's TV reference.

I thought he was ok, but then his power rangers watch went off and I died. Tremendous

I might be going mad but wasn't there an episode of Nitro (sometime during the New Blood vs. Millionaires Club storyline) where the referees went on strike so Russo made all the matches count your own pinfall matches? It definitely happened and but i'm unsure on the time period. Might have been around the time of Kanyon & DDP being mates

You are right - it was a Thunder, though, not a Nitro. That was the episode that ended with a big brawl/battle royal, and Randy Savage arriving in a limo to make a surprise one-off comeback.

You absolute hero. I've got in on download now. I remember thinking it was awesome when I was 10 (which means it was most definitely not). Still - EXCITED!

I might be going mad but wasn't there an episode of Nitro (sometime during the New Blood vs. Millionaires Club storyline) where the referees went on strike so Russo made all the matches count your own pinfall matches? It definitely happened and but i'm unsure on the time period. Might have been around the time of Kanyon & DDP being mates

Does SCUM stand for anything? I dreamt a faction up called SCUM back in the day (Society for Cleaning Up Men). It sounds very gay now, but it was supposed to be a snobby group and they'd pour water over the opponent after a beat down or match and mop over them. The acronym was a play on Society for Cutting Up Men.

Suffering, Chaos, Ugliness, Mayhem

He'd look a lot better, if he did something so that his beard didn't look so dirty and if he had a doucey chest tattoo. I'd say the only reason he hasn't got one is because he knows he'll regret it in later life, but right now - if he got that, he could look ridiculously relevant and get all the teenage emo girls that Jeff Hardy used to get.

So is this the first week of The New NXT on thursday then? Or will the old lot keeping going? I ask because they've already given up based upon last week. Reks and Hawkins were wrestling without any questioning by William Regal on commentary, he wasn't even dogging them. It didn't mention the fact that Johnny Curtis should be handcuffed to Maxine, and be waiting around on commentary while she's wrestling

 

Sounds like you missed a week.

I knew they came back as security, but that's not permission to wrestle is it? Or have a missed a segment or 2? Either way, it felt a lot like Superstars. There was no real story to it.

So is this the first week of The New NXT on thursday then? Or will the old lot keeping going? I ask because they've already given up based upon last week. Reks and Hawkins were wrestling without any questioning by William Regal on commentary, he wasn't even dogging them. It didn't mention the fact that Johnny Curtis should be handcuffed to Maxine, and be waiting around on commentary while she's wrestling and there was no backstage promos. It certainly lacked it's charm.

I've been watching FCW though, and I'm already a fan of The Ascension. Given a larger platform, WWE cameras and a better set-up, their entrance should look amazing. I also like the use of Sandow and Cesaro, maybe Titus & Young could come back to give someone a whipping or Ryback could come in to batter Camacho's $2000 bike again

I genuinely don't know why they haven't put Johnny Curtis and Maxine on SmackDown. In a world where Daniel Bryan screaming YES! repeatedly can get over in front of 70 thousand fans, "Let's get weird" will definitely get a few signs at least.

Rapey Johnny Curtis is exactly what the WWE is lacking.

Is it weird if I'm liking McGullicutty? He's not going to set the world alight, but there's something about him I quite like. I also like how NXT seems to be booked one week at a time, yet still manages to hype the next show better than RAW & SmackDown. And usually ends with better cliff-hangers - I loved that bit of NXT where one team would win a match, only for Reks & Hawkins to do a run-in for no reason, these 2 teams wrestle and then the Usos run in for no reason.

Seriously, I'd love a tag team brand in the WWE. Hawkins/Reks, Usos, Baretta/Kidd, Percy/Riley, D-Young/Titus, could be pretty interesting. Add the whole Kaitlyn-Bateman-Maxine-Curtis-Regal thing, and you've got a pretty bitching brand.

It just needs a big gaudy belt that'll sell loads to the kids and they need to put it on Alex Riley. The guy's a star.

Sorry for bringing up an old topic, but this felt like the best place to put it. Me and a few mates are going on a wrestling themed night-out soon and we're looking for somewhere we can get the replica kids belts cheaply. Where would be the best place to look? Cheers.

Hmmm, I'm not sure that wasn't supposed to be 45 minutes, based on the match at Tag Title Classic.

Didn't they make an angle out of it like it was some type of screwjob with the timekeeper with the porno mustache?

Seriously Pearce is awful. Yes ROH has had some cool matches this year but that's mostly due to him just putting 2 great wrestlers in a match and telling them to do there thing. When he starts adding storylines and turning Aries into a chickenshit heel (which despite doing well, he's got too much talent that's perfect for ROH to be wasted with it. Put the gimmick on Joey Ryan. He has charisma, but doesn't have the awesome wrestling talent Aries does despite being quite good).

I know it's hard to follow the old booker as everyone loves Gabe and see him as their new Jesus all because he can take the DG stars and book some good matches with them but what Pearce is doing is useless for the product. The best thing he's done all year was the introduction to Joey Ryan. He needs to do something different. Whether it's take an unknown guy with a shit load of potential and push him up the card by making him have great matches or just give a guy an edge and build a story with him or something. Just do something that you can't achieve in EWR. If ROH needs to grow, they can't paint my numbers.

But speaking of Gabe, despite how over-rated he is, the whole "Abstract Wrestler" deal is awesome.