MinceMcMahon

I wouldn't worry too much about No. 10... Matthew Morgan is an awesome creative outside half who can play with 'hwyl'. A real throwback. He's only 18, but he destroyed Leicester last week. He's been sensational for Swansea and people are already comparing him to the greats of the 70s.

Good performance, shame about the ref. Stephen Jones was outstanding and George North made Bryan Habana look smalltime.

Who are Foundation X and why do they want to plow money into the UK economy?

Hansard is the official printed transcript of the proceedings of the houses of parliament

The people of Yorkshire should be given their own "White Rose Parliament" with its own budget, Labour former Cabinet minister David Blunkett has suggested.

 

Using the same funding formula applied to Wales - which has a devolved budget of

Did MinceMcMahon complain earlier in this thread that he couldn't get a job in Cardiff because it took an hour to get there?

 

No. I have a job. Commuting isn't be a problem for me, but it's not for everyone and there are circumstances when some jobs aren't worth the commute.

 

My grandfather used to walk 25 miles to work every day; that's 6 hours of walking a day.

 

I like to think we've moved on since then.

 

Yes, we've created a non-working class who regard benefits as their birth right, and sneer at menial jobs but then complain when hard-working immigrants are shipped in to perform them.

 

There was a report on the Beeb the other day from a housing estate oop north somewhere that was apparently "decimated" by unemployment and poverty and going to be further destroyed by the government's plans for benefits.

 

I couldn't help but notice, over the shoulder of the BBC correspondent, that all the flats had Sky dishes.

 

EDIT: browser fuckup.

Places were decimated. Families broke up, kids went starving and crime soared.

Immigration isn't really an issue at all where I live (there's no work/immigrants here! haha).

In 1907, bosses brought 700 Spanish workers to work in the Dowlais Iron Works in South Wales, apparently to undercut wages. Initially they led to hostile demonstrations and a proposal for a strike against the Spanish.

 

However, socialists were able to undercut this. The strength of the Spanish union organisation and left wing ideas within it turned anti-immigrant ideas around.

 

As one account puts it,

Did MinceMcMahon complain earlier in this thread that he couldn't get a job in Cardiff because it took an hour to get there?

No. I have a job. Commuting isn't be a problem for me, but it's not for everyone and there are circumstances when some jobs aren't worth the commute.

My grandfather used to walk 25 miles to work every day; that's 6 hours of walking a day.

I like to think we've moved on since then.

What? Why do you continually dodge the facts? It's not a conspiracy, there just aren't many jobs around. Do a job search and you'll find out. There are several reasons why IB is high in the area and they've already been highlighted in the thread by the report you quoted. People in the area are no lazier than anywhere else in the UK.

You're just a fucking mental. These people are no different to you (except they're probably a bit less retarded). I love the idea of you trawling around websites in the middle of the night. Get some sleep you spastic. Those Cardiff employment figures you posted are wrong.

Research by the Public and Commercial Services union showed there were 15,000 people in Cardiff chasing 1,700 jobs, while in Merthyr there were 1,670 unemployed people and 39 job vacancies, all temporary and part-time.

 

The number of people out of work in Merthyr and Blaenau Gwent combined was more than the total number of job vacancies for the whole of Wales, said the PCS. The vast majority of vacancies in Cardiff were temporary and part-time, mainly unskilled labouring, for just one or three weeks' duration, said the union.

 

The most popular vacancy on the day the union carried out its research last week was a Christmas job in a well-known store working four-hour shifts on Saturdays and Sundays for the national minimum wage.

Let's look at the findings of that report then shall we...

Getting people back to work is very important, and will be crucial in the

regeneration of the area, as it can help lift the communities within Merthyr

Tydfil out of deprivation. The DWP Want2Work and Pathways to Work

initiatives have been successful in this area so far, but more needs to be

done. The reality for an individual with a life limiting health condition

compromised by other disadvantages being able to get work under present

conditions in Merthyr Tydfil is remote.

 

Many factors influence whether or not a health condition leads to incapacity

for work. Most certainly, a person

Youn can't talk, you're doing the exact thing as them!!!! On the sick with a bad back, yeah right... stop wasting my tax payers money you lazy cunt!

More 'On Your Bike' nonsense from Ian Duncan Smith

 

Prick.

I haven't read your link, but I heard a clip of him talking about this on the radio this afternoon. I can't really see what's disagreeable about his comments. Why is commuting such a problem?

 

Would you want to spend 2-3 hours a day on a bus for a temporary

Good for you but that's not true for everyone. Most people are trying hard to get work, they're not lazy cunts and the last thing they need is patronising advice from people who would pronounce Gelli as 'jelly'.

 

Places like the Valleys have different values and strong community bonds but the tories just want to destroy this and turn it into an atomised society like most of southern England.

 

 

Remember dude, I cant currently work because of my back, so how that is fucking patronising is beyond me. Iam itching to go back to work but its impossible.

 

Merthyr has the among the largest amount of incap claimants in the country and is why its always targeted. Its got fuck all to do with ' Valley Life' and more to do with the fact as I said before there is an entire generation who have grown up there knowing no fucking different due to the collapse of the mines and Konix.

 

Miners used to go where the jobs were hopping from valley to vally ditto for farmers and so on. Now its all too much for delicate blossoms fuck off and actually go where the work is rather than stay and bleat about it. If you live rurally and there is no work you go where there is work.

 

This has been proven time and again, take ooh i dunno Stroud which was something like 8th biggest town and city during the 17th and 18th century and has not got a population of 50k because over time the work fucked off. Many other similar towns have similar stories once their main industries fuck off.

 

But its the Tories intent on destroying it isnt it?

What makes you think that these people aren't in a similar position?

Ever thought that heavy industry and incapacity benefit might be related? Is it a coincidence that the other town is in County Durham? Mining isn't exactly good for your health.

Delicate blossoms?

I would spend however long it took to get there if I had a job, was going to commute from Preston to Macclesfield at one point by train for a decent paying job I know people who have done Birmingham to Blackburn and from further afield. You go where the work is. This has been the case for aeons All my lot have done it, so why is it suddenly a hardship now?

Good for you but that's not true for everyone. Most people are trying hard to get work, they're not lazy cunts and the last thing they need is patronising advice from people who would pronounce Gelli as 'jelly'.

Places like the Valleys have different values and strong community bonds but the tories just want to destroy this and turn it into an atomised society like most of southern England.

More 'On Your Bike' nonsense from Ian Duncan Smith

 

Prick.

I haven't read your link, but I heard a clip of him talking about this on the radio this afternoon. I can't really see what's disagreeable about his comments. Why is commuting such a problem?

 

Would you want to spend 2-3 hours a day on a bus for a temporary

More 'On Your Bike' nonsense from Ian Duncan Smith

 

Prick.

I haven't read your link, but I heard a clip of him talking about this on the radio this afternoon. I can't really see what's disagreeable about his comments. Why is commuting such a problem?

Would you want to spend 2-3 hours a day on a bus for a temporary

More 'On Your Bike' nonsense from Ian Duncan Smith

Prick.

Indirect taxes such as VAT take a higher proportion of income from those on low incomes, reversing the positive impact of direct taxes. Most people will end up paying on average an extra

This VAT hike is a disgrace. Everybody knows that once it goes up, it rarely if ever comes back down again. The cost of living has gone up forever.

 

Please explain then how else you are going to pay for the Billions and Billions of debt that the countries in?

 

There are other ways of doing that. VAT takes no account of anyone's ability to pay, it's regressive taxation and will hit the poorest for years to come. Believe it or not we don't pay much tax in relation to other states in Europe. We should be increasing tax on those who are able to pay.

 

The rise in VAT isn't fair, in fact it's morally wrong and the decision to do it was done for ideological reasons, not just to clear debt.

 

 

Err surely a tax that applies to all and doesnt leave anyone out, is actually the fairest way of doing it? 2.5 percent isnt exactly massive?

 

What ideological reasons are you alluding to ?

Indirect taxes such as VAT take a higher proportion of income from those on low incomes, reversing the positive impact of direct taxes. Most people will end up paying on average an extra

This VAT hike is a disgrace. Everybody knows that once it goes up, it rarely if ever comes back down again. The cost of living has gone up forever.

 

Please explain then how else you are going to pay for the Billions and Billions of debt that the countries in?

There are other ways of doing that. VAT takes no account of anyone's ability to pay, it's regressive taxation and will hit the poorest for years to come. Believe it or not we don't pay much tax in relation to other states in Europe. We should be increasing tax on those who are able to pay.

The rise in VAT isn't fair, in fact it's morally wrong and the decision to do it was done for ideological reasons, not just to clear debt.

This VAT hike is a disgrace. Everybody knows that once it goes up, it rarely if ever comes back down again. The cost of living has gone up forever.

I'm glad we've got Italy in Cardiff this year otherwise I'd be pretty scared.

Wales and England have been seriously crap this year, Scotland still can't score for shit and Ireland look like they might coast to a Triple Crown simply even though they've been average.

I've been listening to this old classic loads this week...

Fucking badass!