icke83

 

Anyway I just wanted to post some food for thought as I'd only recently seen the stuff by....

 

Classic.

 

Can we just make an agreement to ban anyone who uses this phrase in conjunction with conspiracy stuff?

 

It's the truth. Btw no one has commented on any of the stuff related to psychopaths. No thoughts on it?

Have to say I go on forums where people with low post counts get accused of been shills/trolls etc. and they try in vain to convince people they are genuine etc. and it's interesting been on the receiving end of specitism about my motives.Maybe I should have signed up with a new username after all Incidentally my username on the david icke forum is 'clinique' as i was struggling to choose a name as usual and my clinique aftershave was the first thing i saw on my shelf..

But it is what it is. I bought Thomas Sheridan's book Anvil of the psyche not so long back off Amazon and found his youtube stuff through that.

Anyway I just wanted to post some food for thought as I'd only recently seen the stuff by Thomas Sheridan about Psychos and I think it adds an extra dimension to these kind of conversations which most people (including myself until recently) hadn't considered or been exposed to previously.

Operation Northwoods never took place though, right?  It was a proposal that was shot down.  And reading about Tonkin, that was more a "who fired first" type situation as opposed to killing your own soldiers.

 

I think commonsense would suggest that it's unlikely the US inflicted the single greatest loss in their naval history on themselves.  I mean, I can accept that they might have been tempted to stage something to draw in the Japanese, but they would have come up with something less devastating than the sinking of most of the Pacific Fleet!

 

If they knew about it in advance, you would surely prepare to fend of the attack, and you'd still have a reason to retaliate.

 

Sorry, not buying that one!

Sorry didn't see your response. No it never took place but the proposal was signed off by the Chiefs of Staff and got as far as the Secretary of Defence for approval.

Less people were killed at Pearl Harbour than on 9/11 and apparently the US government had already withdrawn their newer ships and planes (which may offer another clue about where their priorities lie (money over people) so losses weren't too catastrophic, and when you take in to account the millions/billions made by these people in world war 2 (as with the war in Iraq after 9/11) after this event then you can see why people who may have a certain mindset would proceed.

I just read that foreknowledge of the event was verified so maybe there are some documents in the public record about it after all..

I'm certainly no expert on this stuff, but I think there is more than meets the eye to certain things, such as the decline in bee populations alongside the proliferation of GM foods for example. No bees = a reliance on GM food

And I do think there is a vastly disproportinate number of psychopaths in positions of power.

It never came to fruition but it clearly demonstrates willingness amongst the powers that be to perpertrate such acts. We aren't talking low ranks here, the Joint Chiefs of Staffs were amongst the primary architects of Operation Northwoods and it got as far as the Secretary of Defence's desk for his signature.

You're not buying it from someone called Icke83? 

Ye sorry, I always find it hard choosing names for things e.g. message boards and the tunes I make.

As you can see i'm not a regular poster, more a lurker in the main forum and I was actually gonna sign up with a new name so my post wasn't just dismissed/undermined but hey ho..

Has there ever been a verifiable 'false flag' occurrence or is it entirely in the tinfoil alternative reality?

I think Operation Northwoods and the Gulf of Tonkin incident are the main two which have documents in the public domain supporting evidence of them been false flag attacks.

I'm also of the opinion that Pearl Harbour was a pretty clear cut false flag too in so much as the American's had forewarning of the attack and intercepted (and decoded) many communications from the Japanese prior to the attack, yet allowed it to happen to galvanise public support for US involvement in Europe so that a few people, as with most conflicts, can get very rich.

I'm not sure if there are official documents which support this as with the two mentioned above, rather Pearl Harbour, like 9/11, is more a case of who you choose to believe based on your own independent research and historical examples of similar instances such as those 2 mentioned above which are perhaps easier to verify.

I think the easiest way to look in to these things is to follow the money and it soon becomes clear what motivates the decisions which ultimately become a false flag.

Another thing the majority of people have a problem with accepting is that people in power are capable of putting profit people peoples lives but when you understand some of the basic traits associated with psychopaths, primarily a lack of empathy, then it becomes much easier to understand how they are able to do it.

I watched a good series on Youtube recently by Thomas Sheridan called Labrinyth of the Psychopath which i'd definitely recommend. One interesting part of it was how the mainstream media has cultivated the perception that to be a psychopath, you have to go on a gun rampage in a school or whatever when this is just not the case, and they have done this so that the general public don't associate psycopathic traits with people they are taught to respect e.g. politicians. Like many things, there are different degrees of psychopathic bevaviour, whether it is war mongers like politicians or a guy who has several women on the go at the same time or someone who wants to get the top of the company by any means necessary, not caring who they have to step on in the process. Fundamentally all of these people have pyscopathic traits to some degree or another, as by definition, a psycopath is someone lacking in empathy, remorse or compassion.

Inyourhead is funny and gets some good guests on

http://www.inyourheadonline.com/viewnews.p...t=11&page=1