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I'm glad I never heard of Dave Meltzer when i was watching. I'm sure the experience would have been diluted if I was reading about workrate and stuff like kids do now, never mind having the matches spoilt. I don't think there's any doubt that he's had an influence on how wrestling is, every comment he makes seems to get picked up on. Fans grow up reading this, taking his word as gospel and some of them become wrestlers. For a guy who hated Andre-Hogan, The Ultimate Warrior and obssesses over workrate, Wrestling must be where he always wanted it to be now, lots of moves and no stars.

Deodorant

Anyone remember the Celtic fan who used to commentate on Justin.tv streams

4 hours ago, TheBurningRed said:

Even when the BDO dies, he’s always got the UK open qualifiers to win at Riley’s until the day he stops playing.

Knocked out lewis and Anderson a few years ago didn't he.

He will have had a weird career if he wins. Started back in the Bristow era, before people had even heard of Phil Taylor. Made his debut in the 1995 Worlds and got to the quarters, but has only made sporadic appearences and never really been a contender.

Funnily enough this years PDC winner also made his World Championship debut in 1995. 

Didn't know Bobby George had entered the womens comp

We're only seeing half the arena since they won't put the lights on and show the Kings row or balcony where half the seats are. More like a quarter actually since you can't see the back or sides of the downstairs bit either. And it still looks empty.

Atmosphere is similar to the Lakeside at least - Dead.

Host said it's nearly a full house, pretty sure there's a whole balcony closed off, otherwise they need to put the prize money back up again.

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3 hours ago, garynysmon said:

Still blows my mind how the BDO, given its present state and diminished prize money, decided to drop the word 'darts' instead of 'professional' from the title.

So they should be called the 'BO' now..

It's not really a 'World' Championship either. Considering it's not recognised by the WDF anymore, and it's not on TV outside of the UK

4 hours ago, garynysmon said:

The timing of the BDO "Professional" World Championships often hurt the brand too.

Usually starting a day or two after the PDC final, it was hard to go straight from the world's elite hitting 10,11 dart legs with regularity in front of noisy crowds, to the drab atmosphere of the Lakeside and "best of order please" and the meat raffle as two qualifiers struggled to finish the leg with both needing double one.

 

Being on straight after the PDC Worlds would have got a lot of people who'd just watched that and were looking for more darts to tune in . If it was on when the weather was nice and there was other sports to watch they wouldn't bother.

Even at the end the BDO was getting millions more viewers on the BBC than the PDC on Sky. Most of them didn't watch the PDC anyway, probably never had done. Most of the viewers were watching out of tradition. They weren't darts fans, not enough to follow it to a different channel. Once they lost the BBC contract it was obvious they would be dead in a few years

Same with the Lakeside, most of them went because they had been going there for years, they weren't big enough fans to follow it to another venue and probably wouldn't have gone if it was ob at a different time. Leaving the Lakeside not only lost most of the rest of their audience but Bob Potters sponsorship money too

Being at the same time, same venue, same channel every year is the only reason it kept going so long.

David Schultz bounty hunter

Good catch.

No surprise that Billy Jack Haynes shoot video was called "The Conspiracy Theory"

On 2/8/2018 at 5:20 PM, Bellenda Carlisle said:

Having women on only one of the big shows is the worst idea of all, it's nothing like putting the cruisers on one brand. I think the build of the women's division across all the brands and giving them more exposure and importance is one of the few things WWE is doing right. Raw isn't a men's wrestling show, it's the flagship of the whole company, a little girl can't go and not see any women's wrestlers. 

Ironically in the eighties when there was virtually no women's wrestling most of the audience was girls, now it's nearly all blokes.

I can't believe they've got enough to have their own promotion.Talk about bloat.

Mr. McMahon in 1993

ex daughter?

Why didn't Lawler get to be NWA champ?

No idea, but I'd like it to be. They've still only got Prime Time up until 1987 at the minute so I'd say they're more likely to get all of them on first. Apart from New shows, do they have any archive stuff that was only an hour long on there? With it only being about 40 mins of actual footage they might not bother.

Nitro was only an hour for the first 6 months, do they not have that on?

Random thoughts after looking at wrestlers ages and thinking back 20 years. When NWO forms Hall and Nash are cool and fresh, Arm Anderson is the old veteran, Michael Hayes is Dok Hendrix. These are all 36 or 37, less than a year between them.

Bret Hart was part of the mid 90s "new generation" and and he's older than any of them (39). Hogan isn't much older (42)

Kerry Von Erich would only have been 36, his peak was over a decade ago and he'd been dead for years.

Paul Heyman was 30 going on 50.

Johnny B. Badd/Marc Mero was quality. Can't think of anyone who gets more flak despite being pretty darn good in the ring and super charismatic to boot. Also, his JBB entrance gimmicks were ace.

He peaked in Hall and Oates