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That Dynamite Kid picture is class! Reminds me of Salad Fingers too!

The comment about Highlander being a "fucking idiot" for crashing through tables made me burst out laughing. Harsh but terrific.

 

The highlander is an intresting one for me alothgh perhaps he is not one of the best workers ever (he is capable of having a good match though). what the entry fails to mention thus giving an unfair and balanced perspective of the guy is that he has had a hand in training a lot of scotlands top talent which includes amoung other's Drew Mcintyre, for that he has be given his due.

 

The list compiles guys who are apparently shit wrestlers. Whether the guys he's trained are shit or not is completely irrelevant.

 

 

True, but if you are talking about a guy's generall worth in the industry it do's count for somthing, I just felt that anyone reading the write up would get a disaporsonate veiw on him.

Huh?

Best Flyweight around bar none, quite simply because he has it all.

 

But then you're forgetting Marty Scurll, Jonny Storm and SpUd. So you're quite simply wrong.

All three of those are definitely brilliant, but I think your stance is a little too militant, and not very well argued.

I think RJ wrestles as well as all three of the above, has a fantastic gimmick that is perhaps beneath only Spud's, doesn't have a physique like Marty sadly, but works the mic better than nearly everybody in England.

I'll wager he's on the list because a certain number of people think that he's shit.

and just cause Alex Shane thinks someone is good doesn't mean they are.

Seriously though, just chill, as this list is just a bit of fun.

Anybody could end up on there whether shit or not because part of the voting process will always be a popularity contest.

House of Pain, you are just best keeping quiet about this, otherwise it looks like you are be biased.

I'm not taking most of this Top 50 or shitlist serious so neither should you.

^This, don't take it too serious. Just occured to me though, is it fair that trainees and rookies were eligable? Then again, I suppose if they're working shows they're fair game.

 

I think it's probably hard not to take it seriously when most of the stuff was personal, I think that goes beyond the lines of 'fair game'. I mean backstage matters shouldn't be brought into this, it has nothing to do with it really. Plus personally speaking I've been nothing but impressed when I've seen Shane wrestle at the few shows i've seen him on and I agree with the selling comment, his match at FWA Art of War is a great example.

Yeah, I'd rather not hear about wrestler's personal lives when it comes to how eligible they were for the top 50/shitlist. Half the shit that Shane kid got voted in for shouldn't really be used as reason to call him a crap worker.

The bit about him pestering other wrestlers for their moves also doesn't really qualify him - it makes him a pest backstage, rather than a naff worker, surely? Saw him at the FWA show, and there's got to be far more than 20 people in this country much worse than him?

I do believe that Chris Benoit has started the beginning of the end of the WWE. This is going to be massive, and although the WWE is legally blameless (you don't see the National Baseball League being blamed for individual's uses of steroids) the sensationalist publicity, as well as the taboo that anabolic steroids have in western culture, could mean that this will cause Vince's Rome to fall.

Congrats Hat Guy, great thread. Lots of suprise, some good, some bad, and some that were always obvious, again good and bad, meant that this was - at the very least - a great thread to open debates over. The idea of holding out and posting each one slowly was good stuff in my opinion. Next time perhaps, have at least three ready for each post? Just a suggestion.

Come on Hat Guy, I wanna know who came in what order for the top 30! Don't leave us waiting!!!

Shining Wizard - Keiji Muto's step-up knee to the face, done from a variety of situations.Shining Black - Masahiro Chono's step up Yakuza kick to the face, used I think because he and Muto were tag partners.Shining Triangle - Shinzuke Nakamura's step up triangle choke hold. runs up, does the conventional foot-on-knee set up, then grabs the opponent's arm, while his legs wrap around the opponent's neck/body.Only three I know of.