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On 9/9/2021 at 11:48 AM, Chest Rockwell said:

Keanu can't act,

HEAVY SIGH...I will not bite. Also don't tell me you don't cry at the HARDBALL funeral scene.

The second MANY SAINTS OF NEWARK trailer came out as well the other day. I don't think I've looked forward to a film more in a looooong time. Looks like it carries the same tone of the series and you know that soundtrack is going to be a banger.

 

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Has there been any talk of why Lilly isn't working on it?

I've never been a big fan of the sisters work but I did enjoy seeing one of them telling Elon to fuck himself. It's been Interesting to see how the Matrix films have been reclaimed over the past few years by queer circles and the sisters saying they're practically an allegory to being trans.

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10 minutes ago, Merzbow said:

Has there been any talk of why Lilly isn't working on it?

She basically can't be bothered. Good enough reason for me.

The Matrix sequels are very similar to the Star Wars prequels that came out at a similar time. If you just look at the bare basic story and ideas it all sounds really great but in reality they are dull as fuck. Filled with endless boring weird dialogue, loads of supporting characters who have no personality whatsoever, characters doing nothing, huge action scenes that are mainly bad special effects and have absolutely zero stakes, weird convoluted tangents. It's remarkable how alike they are.

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Didn't Lilly actually say that she didn't want to revisit that period of her life? I don't think it was simply "she couldn't be bothered."

I have a mixed relationship with The Matrix. I actually found the first one really boring and drab. I like all the ideas when they're written down or someone describes them in a YouTube review but the films leave me cold. 

I much prefer World on a Wire which is obviously far less spectacular. 

That said there's some interesting discussions around the 'queerness' of The Matrix films that has made me want to revisit them as I don't think I'd have picked up on some of that at the time. 

I'm also well up for 1/2 (well, however many really) members of the LGBTQ+ community making big bold science fiction action movies that make fascist idiots look like even bigger idiots when they try and quote it. So even if previous ones have bored me I'm tempted to go see the new one. 

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47 minutes ago, Vamp said:

That said there's some interesting discussions around the 'queerness' of The Matrix films that has made me want to revisit them as I don't think I'd have picked up on some of that at the time. 

That’s pretty much why I rewatched them but the sequels are still garbage. 

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It's the raw potential of the basic scenario that makes the sequels so disappointing.

Reloaded had some great ideas in terms of action but was perhaps 5 years behind the technological development needed to really execute set-pieces like the burly brawl. They were also in such a rush to rattle off the ideas and exposition that it quickly descended into characters explaining things to each other, with opaque language attempting to mask the fact that no one is actually doing anything. There's no reason for the dialogues involving the Oracle, Smith, and the Architect (jeez) to be so ponderous, but if all you're going to do is have them stand there, there's nothing cinematic for you to do with them; it descends into boring tell-not-show. The end of Reloaded, where Neo fries a machine outside of the Matrix, was enough of a hook to have me coming back for the finale, but I'd've taken any half-baked explanation (Were they still in the Matrix after all? Had Neo's powers evolved in line with the cod-new-age chakra energy line beliefs of the day and allowed him to manipulate the code of life itself? blah blah blah) over the relentless pre-Bayhem mech bin fight we got.

The next Matrix could be tremendous, but of course it depends on what Wachowski wants to do with it. I'm intrigued to see if any of the trans themes are genuinely explored this time, as well as to see what the aging cast can do. Although we don't actually jack our brains into a computer, the world of machines, VR and video games has evolved so that the current world actually fells closer to the world of the original trilogy. It'll be fun to see if they integrate modern tech into the Matrix skillset, e.g. mobile phones versus hardlines for getting in and out.

The one thing currently missing from the trailer for me is the one big hook, the question or set-piece that makes me think I HAVE to see this. Sad Neo having some fights seems like a neutered John Wick, difference being he'll throw your own bullets back at you. Or, god forbid, we end up with Free Guy but with middle-aged ennui.

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I think Edgar Wright once said you should take the time to watch films silent if you ever wanted to be a Director to learn about the art of visual storytelling. Not sure if that's bollocks or not but I've given it a go a few times and some do give you a genuine appreciation of the craft. (sorry for using the word craft)

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17 hours ago, Factotum said:

I think Edgar Wright once said you should take the time to watch films silent if you ever wanted to be a Director to learn about the art of visual storytelling.

He meant you shouldn't talk through them.

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