Paid Members Egg Shen Posted December 10, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 10, 2019 who does everyone think will be next for AJ? he has to deal with the mandatory situation so id say the smart money is on Pulev. Id prefer the Usyk fight but it looks like he'll fight Chisora in Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Egg Shen said: who does everyone think will be next for AJ? he has to deal with the mandatory situation so id say the smart money is on Pulev. Id prefer the Usyk fight but it looks like he'll fight Chisora in Feb. Joshua will probably fight Pulev next. Hearn said yesterday that the IBF belt is more importantly historically than the WBO belt. And Pulev is mandatory for the IBF belt. Usyk will probably fight either Chisora or Parker in the meantime. It all depends on whether Joshua vacates the WBO belt or not. Hearn said yesterday that Del Boy is not ranked high enough to fight for the WBO belt. And as I wrote on Sunday, Higgins has been badgering the WBO to book Usyk vs Parker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted December 10, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 10, 2019 not listened yet, but here's Teddy Atlas' take on Joshua/Ruiz 2: https://youtu.be/0Hr9_pYRshk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 hours ago, jimufctna24 said: Joshua will probably fight Pulev next. Hearn said yesterday that the IBF belt is more importantly historically than the WBO belt. And Pulev is mandatory for the IBF belt. Usyk will probably fight either Chisora or Parker in the meantime. It all depends on whether Joshua vacates the WBO belt or not. Hearn said yesterday that Del Boy is not ranked high enough to fight for the WBO belt. And as I wrote on Sunday, Higgins has been badgering the WBO to book Usyk vs Parker. The multitude of belts situation is fucking insane, and not something I pay any attention to. For me, it's the RING Magazine rankings all the way, and they don't have a definitive heavyweight champion at present. There's three main players in the division. We all know who they are. Parker or Usyk being handed a shot at a belt that they don't really deserve makes no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted December 11, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2019 Unfortunately its how it goes with the mandatory situation. AJ wants to fight earlyish next year so with Wilder/Fury tied (thought im still not convinced it happens) knocking off a mandatory makes sense, and it's more than likely Pulev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Yeah, but it doesn't mean that people need to recognise these belts and their holders as legit. I mean, if Joshua vacates the WBO belt and lets say Parker beats Usyk in an eliminator fight, is anyone gonna be like "well, Fury, Wilder and Joshua may be the main players, but Parker is in the mix as well as world champion"? Of course not. The belts mean fuck all in the grand scheme of things. The important pieces of the division are Joshua and Wilder with belts, and fury as former undisputed champion who never lost the title in the ring. The others matter not a jot unless they beat one of those three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted December 11, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2019 I see what you're saying, but thats just the way boxing goes. As long as there's 4 governing bodies all jockying for position with mandatories and getting their belt inline to be defended there's always gonna be bullshit like that Usyk/Parker situation you mention above. You dont need to look far to see many examples of guys becoming world champions without really deserving it or even beating a champ to become champ. I guess its how someone defends a belt that truly solidifies their position as a legit world champion. Joshua's initial path is great proof of that, he first became champ beating a guy who won a vacant belt in a fight where a guy injured his knee and couldnt continue. Joshua went on to defend the same belt 6 times, i guess by that he'd proven he was a legit world champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 People only pay attention to the actions of certain governing bodies because they explain why certain fights are made and others are not. Of course no one is going to say that Parker, if he wins the WBO belt, is in the same bracket as Fury. I don't think that needed to be said. I mean, Charr holds a version of the WBA belt, yet he isn't ranked in RING's top 10, or even in contention to fight anyone notable at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted December 11, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted December 11, 2019 When I was young, I was told that the big belts at HW were the WBC and the WBA belts. I'm guessing that's changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylin_and_Profilin Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Carbomb said: When I was young, I was told that the big belts at HW were the WBC and the WBA belts. I'm guessing that's changed? I always thought the WBC was the 'biggie' by quite a distance and then WBO was the mickey mouse one with the other two sandwiched in between. Was never really sure, nor had much of an opinion what difference there was between IBF and WBA in terms of prestige. Edited December 12, 2019 by Stylin_and_Profilin typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) I always remember the WBO title as the belt that Wladamir held when I first started watching boxing on Sky Sports. However, looking at its history, it traditionally has been a 2nd tier heavyweight title - https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/WBO_Heavyweight_Champion Edited December 12, 2019 by jimufctna24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted December 12, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 12, 2019 the WBC is usually considered the top belt, thats likely down to its history though. ...any love here for the IBO? what about the WBF?😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 12 hours ago, Egg Shen said: what about the WBF?😄 One of the greatest held that belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted December 12, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 12, 2019 The GOAT. Matt Skelton was also a 'World Champion', here is his holding the prestigious WBU belt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted December 12, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted December 12, 2019 If I'd been a pro boxer, I'd have gone heel on everyone by fighting for the lowest-rung world titles, then go around festooned with belts calling myself "the real World Champion", never fighting any of the real ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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