Keith Houchen Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 7 minutes ago, BigJag said: I think that Hamas being in the refugee camps has been the case all along It’s one thing Hamas being in refugee camps but another using those camps to keep hostages prisoner. Doesn’t justify the slaughter of innocents of course but it strengthens Israel’s case against genocide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BigJag Posted June 9 Paid Members Share Posted June 9 Not sure how that tracks. Can they argue that the large scale slaughter was necessary? Let's not forget Israel bizarrely refused a Ceasefire deal that they themselves had put forward. The proposed deal would have released hostages. Hamas had agreed to the deal. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 7 hours ago, BigJag said: Not sure how that tracks. Can they argue that the large scale slaughter was necessary? They’ll point out that if Hamas were using refugee camps to hold hostages, they’d have no problem using anywhere as a base, so their intelligence was right with the exception of the few apologies they’ve made.  As I say, it doesn’t justify targeting civilians, nothing does, but they’ll no doubt use it to show how blurred the lines are where Hamas are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BigJag Posted June 11 Paid Members Share Posted June 11 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv225l8l7jzo Looks like they'll try to get that ceasefire agreed. The one that Israel proposed, then ended up scuppering. Madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathrey Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 I think this is the right place for this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxee43mdd60o Holly Valance really is a right tosser isn't she? Is it not a bit dodgy to be doing fundraising rallies for the US election in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 If only I could take back all those hours I spent on Holly Valance in my youth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, deathrey said: I think this is the right place for this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxee43mdd60o Holly Valance really is a right tosser isn't she? Is it not a bit dodgy to be doing fundraising rallies for the US election in the UK? Fairs fair, if you’re saying it’s dodgy then you need to say Wintours event for Biden is too. But neither of them are dodgy, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted June 12 Moderators Share Posted June 12 From the article:Â Only US citizens and permanent residents will be able to make donations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathrey Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 I read that, it still seems a bit odd to me. Must just be me. Are they flying over here to attend? Why not just donate in the US? I think Wintour doing one for Biden is just as odd @Keith Houchen. I am no fan of Biden's either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, deathrey said: I read that, it still seems a bit odd to me. Must just be me. Are they flying over here to attend? Why not just donate in the US? I think Wintour doing one for Biden is just as odd @Keith Houchen. I am no fan of Biden's either. There’s plenty of rich people with dual nationality or visas.  These overseas fundraisers happen all the time in countries where rich Americans live.  Yeah I think they’re a bit odd, my point was about singling out one when both parties are doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted June 12 Paid Members Share Posted June 12 19 minutes ago, no user name said: Has anyone seen that video of a drunk driver from high Wycombe? I'm having a hard job attaching the link. He was smashing into cars he went on the pavement. In the the and he had a head on with a car and that was where the video ended If people could not post this I'd appreciate it thanks. I don't need to see any car crashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 minute ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: I don't need to see any car crashes. Don’t watch the Starmer and Sunak debates that are on Sky at the moment in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted June 12 Paid Members Share Posted June 12 31 minutes ago, no user name said: We're you in a crash mate? Or just don't like seeing them ? Does it make a fucking difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no user name Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Just now, Chris B said: Does it make a fucking difference? No I was just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BigJag Posted June 13 Paid Members Share Posted June 13 (edited) This latest UN report of the actions of elected governments in Israel-Palestine. Is a harrowing read. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/06/israeli-authorities-palestinian-armed-groups-are-responsible-war-crimes https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/15/netanyahu-war-two-fronts-israel-hamas-gaza-hezbollah-lebanon Edited June 15 by BigJag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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