Zebra Kid Mark Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Not a bad show. Start with the negative. Robbie Lawler vs Nick Diaz just looked like a fight in slow motion. I couldn't believe Diaz was able to connect with those slow and labouring shots in round 1, I thought Robbie was better than that. Diaz looked over weight and sluggish, I think he is surely done now, I've not seen any post show interviews but surely he doesn't want to fight again. The crowd didn't see as into it as they were for Nate vs Leon. Valentina looked impressive as per usual. I know they can be boring at times but I love one sided shut outs like that at times, she just dominated from the start. Volk vs Ortega didn't go as I expected, I thought it would be more on the ground but it was pretty much a full on kick boxing match, a part from the few dangerous submissions that Ortega caught Volk in. How Volk was able to escape those I have no idea. He looked great. Blaydes vs Biggi Boi was a snooze fest. Moraes vs Merab was an incredible fun fight. Best 1st round I have seen in a long time. ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane O' Mac Version 2 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Main event has to be the FOTY surely? Insane how Volko escaped the subs in R3, amazing that he came back to batter Ortega, and it was bat shit crazy that Ortega seemed to catch a second wind in R5- after Herb and the doctor looked close to calling it in between rounds a couple of times- and come back to arguably win that round- I think he got it on one judges' scorecard. Funny how it started as a good, technical fight in the first 2 frames, to where the round Ortega won could have also been one of those, all the way to the mental 3rd round and the battering that followed. I know it wasn't a finish, but Volko can't be accused of being a point fighter in this one. He was out for blood. Credit to Ortega for the toughness, but people have to start giving Volkanovski respect and stop holding controversial judging in the second Max fight against him. I think it was Ariel Helwani who pointed out after the show- Alex didn't score that fight himself. And I thought Moraes vs. Dvalishvili had FOTN or even a FOTY contender sown up in the featured prelim. That was wild! Referee might have let it go on too long at points, but both fighters showed incredible toughness and heart. Other stuff: -They might as well shut down the women's divisions in the UFC down and just put Shevchenko vs. Nunes in a 3 Stages of Hell match or something. Seriously, it doesn't seem like anyone has anything of substance to trouble them with. So many levels above it almost doesn't seem fair. -Everything about Nick Diaz was sad here. His pre-fight, the way the fight ended, and his complete disinterest post-fight. Does someone have a gun to his head making him accept a fight? Is he in major debt or something? He clearly didn't want to be there in any shape or form. At least Lawler looked in shape and up for it, looks to have renewed his confidence. -Great seeing Dan Hooker not only get the win after the hassles he's had, but continue to work on his ground skills to complement his vicious striking. Super classy post-fight interview as well giving props to Haqparast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panhead Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I thought Ortega was going to take it when he sunk that triangle in. That was the exact kind of finish I had in mind when I mentioned it yesterday. I was wrong though. I'll probably need reminding of this next time he fights, but I'll never doubt Volkanovski again. The man radiates confidence. The fight was one for the ages.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Paid Members Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) How? How did Volkanovski survive that? Especially applied by someone like Ortega who knows how to choke a sod out better than most. Incredible fight. Points wise it was a clear win for Volk but it was so exciting to watch and Ortega certainly had his moments, once again showed a ton of toughness and heart and somehow having a strong 5th round despite the beating he was taking. Once again though, it was a rough one. An all too familiar sight. Not quite as bad as he looked after the Holloway massacre but not far off. These title fights just arenโt panning out for T-City are they? Heโs nearly there, heโd have finished almost anyone else with that mounted guillotine, but heโs just a shade below that very elite tippy-top of the division. Not sure where Ortega goes after this. Calvin Kattar maybe? Would be fun but I feel cold blooded even suggesting it with them both coming off severe trashings from Volk and Max respectively. Does Ortega take a couple of steps down in levels now, maybe try 155? And what about Volko? Iโve already seen talk of a third go with Holloway but Hollowayโs booked against Yair in November now. Until it inevitably goes tits up again anyway. If that fight does go ahead, I reckon the most likely scenario is Volk rests up and fights the winner of that one in 2022. I did see Henry Cejudo tweet something about fighting Volk but he always does that on fight nights doesnโt he? Same with McGregor. He had a pop on Twitter, I can only assume out of bitterness because the commentators said Volk beat โthe 2 best Featherweights of all time - Holloway and Aldoโ. Something like that. Hop-along Conโs fragile ego apparently couldnโt handle it. All that silly shite aside, itโs a really interesting time at 145. Max vs Yair coming up, the Zombieโs still knocking about, Chikadzeโs rising up the ranks, Kattar could still rebound, prospects like Ilia Topuria coming up. And now Coach Mark Henryโs just hinted at Zabit making a return! So much going on. But yeah, one of the best fights of the year so far easy. If not the best.ย Valentina Shevchenko killed another one.ย Who can they even throw at her next? Seriously I canโt think of anyone whoโs obvious or stands out as having earned a shot. Thereโs definitely nobody left whoโs interesting. Not for the foreseeable anyway. Maybe thereโs something juicy down the road if a Tatiana Suarez can come back with a bang or something, or if Manon Fiorot can keep winning. But weโre talking way down the line for both. Suarez hasnโt even made her Flyweight debut yet and it remains to be seen how she looks after all the time away and the injuries etc. And Fiorot, itโs still very early days. The thing with Shevchenko as well is her defences have been so one-sided that it doesnโt even really leave things open for a rematch. I think theyโre gonna have to go with Shev vs Nunes 3 soon. Especially if Nunes just wrecks Pena in December like I suspect she will. Thereโs nothing to work with for either in 2022. Iโm not usually a fan of two champs facing each other and holding up 2 divisions unless itโs something mega. But in this case, what would they even be holding up? Theyโve cleaned out their divisions. At least if they face each other itโll give the rest of them some time for a contender or two to emerge. Maybe.ย Yeah. Just book it. Itโs 2-0 to Nunes but both fights were very close and Shevchenko has improved just as much and arguably more than Nunes since they last met. Sod it. If Nunes beats Pena in December, letโs get Nunes vs Shevchenko 3 on around March/April.ย Lawler vs Diaz 2 was a right mix of emotions. I canโt deny it was a โmark out momentโ, for lack of a better term, for me watching the walkout. Took me back and itโs something I never thought Iโd see again, Nick Diaz walking to the Octagon. Despite all the concern and doubts about him this week, it was a bit of a goosebumpy moment for me and as much as I love MMA, there hasnโt been many genuine goosebump moments this year. Then Anik with thisโฆ โI havenโt smelt marijuana all night, you can certainly smell weed now inside the T-Mobile arena!โ - Jon Anikย ๐ I was ready.ย And Iโll be honest, this wasnโt as sad to me as it seems it was to many. Well not all of it anyway. I pissed myself at Diaz opening up with the worst fucking attempt at a spin kick ever. He used to do weird shite like that way back. Still, Diaz throwing his own โspinning shitโ, the same week Condit retired, did tickle me. There were moments in the fight where Nick kind of looked like the old Nick and Iโm not ashamed to admit I enjoyed spells of the fight and a lot of the exchanges. Slow as a lot of them were. But yeah, Iโd have enjoyed it more if Diaz looked like he wanted to be there. Forget the little bit of a belly and him not looking too sharp. Iโve seen a load of doom and gloom about that but itโs worth remembering this was his first fight in over 6 years. There was bound to be some rust. Itโs the overall vibe he was giving off that made it a bit uncomfortable to watch for me more than anything. Even during the walkout which I mentioned as a positive there above, he just didnโt look arsed. There was no mean mug like he always had in the past walking in, no scowling during the intros, just seemed to be no go in him at all. He threw shots because he had to, Lawler was coming at him guns blazing. And heโs still a tough fucker. Some of the body shots and kicks he absorbed were nasty. He kept a poker face and kept marching forward. Heโs always been a hard bastard. But the combination of him clearly not feeling it and Lawler looking more up for a scrap than he has in years was a recipe for what we got. The record books will say โTKO via retirementโ and maybe thatโs fitting because thatโs likely where Diaz is heading. Maybe. Depends how much he needs the money I suppose.ย 5 hours ago, Shane O' Mac Version 2 said: Everything about Nick Diaz was sad here. His pre-fight, the way the fight ended, and his complete disinterest post-fight. Does someone have a gun to his head making him accept a fight? Is he in major debt or something?ย There was something he touched on during his interview with Brett Okamoto the other day that caught my attention. He was saying there were plans he had to open his own gym and the people he was in business with fucked him around. It was something like that but you know Nick, it was hard to make sense of what he was trying to say and it seemed like he was gonna say more but cut himself short. Maybe he got fleeced or maybe itโs just a case of him blaming bad choices with money on other things like how he blamed losses in his career on anything but himself. I know that sounds harsh and maybe itโs not the case at all here and heโs genuinely been fucked over. Who knows? But Iโve got a feeling this is why heโs back fighting. Itโd be a shame because the money he mustโve made from those GSP and Anderson Silva fights couldโve set him up nicely if invested properly but this whole thing feels very much like heโs back because his money ran out. I donโt know what happens now. Youโd think itโs over but if heโs skint these days I could just as easily see him convincing Dana this was all just ring rust and being booked in another fight in a few months. Dana wasnโt at the post-fight press conference but it felt like the kind of fight where heโd usually be calling for retirement after but you never know. If heโs gonna fight again, and based on this itโs probably a bad idea, but if heโs gonna then it needs to be against someone like Cowboy Cerrone. But even then, unless he makes huge gains from this heโs probably getting beat up again. Just thank fuck they didnโt do that Chimaev fight eh? Or do something really stupid and get him killed by Usman. As for Lawler, he looked about as good as you could in a fight like this. Yeah it was a badly faded Diaz but if Lawler showed anything then at least he wasnโt gun-shy like his last few. Heโs never gonna be 2015 Lawler again but I still think with the right style opponent youโll get fun fights. I think his previous few fights gave a bit of a distorted impression of how shot he was. Put him in with a Niko Price or do a Matt Brown rematch or something and Iโm sure youโll see flashes of the old Ruthless Bob. Throw him in with a grinder or a top contender and of course heโll be hesitant. The guy who took Johny Hendricksโ soul and went to war with Rory and Condit, heโs not that guy anymore. But heโs not last legs BJ Penn either. I still wanna see him twat Mike Perry, to be honest. Anywayโฆ Blaydes vs Rozenstruik was a snoozer. Totally got why Blaydes played it safe though, coming off that crushing KO from the Black Beast. And then add in his eye was swollen shut halfway through. He needed that W and he went about it in a smart way. Just not one that made for the most exciting viewing. Blaydes will be getting stick for it today but itโs as much on Rozenstruik for not being able to do anything about it. He had nothing for Blaydesโ wrestling game. Fair play to Blaydes for calling out all the killers at the top of the division but I doubt he gets any of those fights at this stage.ย Jessica Andrade bashing up Calvillo was a pleasant way to open up the PPV. That sounds well harsh on Calvillo I know but I was hoping for 2 things in this fight - 1) an Andrade win and 2) the fight not to be boring. Andrade delivered on both fronts. Sheโs in a funny old spot now though. Sheโll beat all of these contenders convincingly and sheโll keep getting to the title shot but when she gets there she just doesnโt have quite enough to beat the champs. Sheโs basically the Joseph Benavidez of Flyweight/Strawweight. Similar spot to where Brian Ortega finds himself at 145 now as well actually.ย Dvalishvili vs Moraes was tremendous. On any other card this wouldโve been a lock for FOTN but they missed out here because of Volkanovski vs Ortega. Hopefully they still got something extra because this was brilliant. This thoughโฆ On 9/25/2021 at 4:20 PM, wandshogun09 said: Moraes vs Dvalishvili is another one I quite like the sound of as well. On paper itโs pure striker vs grappler but weโll see how it goes. Iโd love to see Moraes get back to winning ways here. It wasnโt that long ago he was a top contender, on a hot streak and knocking out Aljamain Sterling. Now heโs probably a loss away from getting his walking papers. Iโm hoping itโs just a blip and he can bounce back but he hasnโt been the same since the loss to Cejudo. At least in this fight he shouldnโt be getting ironed out again because Merab is pretty much all grappling.ย I jinxed him, didnโt I? Soz Marlon. The knock on Merab had been that heโs not always been that exciting to watch and had become a bit of a decision merchant. But you could always tell watching him and the pace he sets that heโs an animal. He just hadnโt really had his feet held to the fire before to bring it out of him. Well Moraes nearly knocked his head off in the first round and Merab showed what heโs made of. Crazy first round, even crazier comeback from Merab and then to finish it the following round was the cherry on top. Great fight. If this had been on the main card in place of Blaydes vs Rozey then it wouldโve been one of the best main cards ever.ย Hooker vs Haqparast was good, although not quite the stormer I thought it might be. Strong showing from Hooker though and he needed it coming off the Chandler KO. Iโve often picked up on a bit of a dickhead vibe from Hooker but Iโve kind of warmed to him a bit more recently. And I really liked his post-fight interview last night, all class towards Haqparast who must be a ball of emotions right now losing his mum then having the chaos surrounding this event. Loved the Tsarukyan callout as well. That one needs booking next. Theyโve been bickering for months on and off on social media, Tsarukyan is due a step up, Hookerโs trying to rebuild. Itโs perfect. Do it over 5 rounds, I say.ย I like this Chris Daukaus. Sweet finish against Abdurakhimov here and came across well in the post-fight interview. He sounds like Stipe just easier to understand. Him and Tom Aspinall could be a fun Heavyweight bombfest somewhere down the road. Taila Santos beat Modafferi quite comfortably as expected. Fair play to Modafferi though. She takes on these tough fights and sheโs always game. She was standing and throwing strikes at times and actually landing the odd decent one but Santos just had too much for her, even getting the better of it on the ground which is Modafferiโs strength. Santos didnโt blow anyone away here but I still think thereโs a lot of potential there. Modafferiโs awkward and crafty and hard to look good against.ย Only caught snippets off the Fight Pass bit. Jalin Turner beating Uros Medic was a little bit of a surprise. Turner had been inconsistent previously and I think there were high expectations for Medic. Oh and Matthew Semelsberger just wasted Martin Sano in 15 secondsโฆ Mustโve had other things to do because he wasnโt hanging about here. At all. I said in the opening post I thought Sano was just getting the shot here as a favour to Nick Diaz because heโs a teammate. Looking at his record there was no other reason to think theyโd sign him. Wouldnโt be surprised if itโs โone and doneโ for him after this. Semelsberger is worth keeping an eye on though. This is twice now this year that heโs wiped someone out in seconds. He had a 16 second KO back in March. Lost to Khaos Williams on points in between. I donโt see him amounting to much or going much further up the ladder but he can definitely crack and heโs exciting to watch. Yeah, thought that was one of the better cards this year. It had a bit of something for everyone, two FOTY candidates, a big return, big finishes etc. The only bad fight was Blaydes-Rozenstruik but it didnโt drag the overall card down for me. It was more like a breather before the top 3 fights got underway. I give it, yโknowโฆuhmโฆ โญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธ Yโknow.ย Wouldโve got 5 if it was held in the Tokyo Dome, obvs.ย Edited September 26, 2021 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra Kid Mark Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Great write up Wand. I was looking forward to Dana's usual post PPV press conference to get his thoughts on Diaz but he didn't appear to have one. I'm assuming he is probably trying to avoid any Jon Jones related questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, Zebra Kid Mark said: Great write up Wand. I was looking forward to Dana's usual post PPV press conference to get his thoughts on Diaz but he didn't appear to have one. I'm assuming he is probably trying to avoid any Jon Jones related questions. There's footage of him on ESPN's YouTube channel talking about that. You think Dana would miss the chance to trash the guy who dared ask for more money?ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panhead Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Wonder how long it'll be until Conor calls for the Nick Diaz fight?ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 27, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted September 27, 2021 Volkanovski/Ortega round 3, one of the best rounds in MMA history. Phenomenal. A card of real high and lows. The lows were pretty low but the highs were outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted September 28, 2021 left this out of general in case someone hasnt seen it, but this was quick: ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebra Kid Mark Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 That was very quick and a huge step up for Chris! Nice work. It's a shame though that I became a fan of his after his awesome showing on Saturday and now I already want him to lose because of who he is up against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted October 6, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted October 6, 2021 this is getting shared about a lot today: ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.