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35 minutes ago, deathrey said:

The human flags were out in force here last night. Letting off fireworks. It's only the quarter finals.

There were fireworks here last night too, but I assume it was from the large American community here for 4th of July (Yes I know it was the 3rd!) rather than for England beating Ukraine.

But then people probably want to celebrate after a pretty shitty year and a bit so who knows? I live 20 seconds from a pub and everyone was singing all night and there was miraculously no trouble (there often is) so I think people are just happy to have a reason to be happy, if that makes sense? (It doesn't)

This is good work. 

 

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1 hour ago, deathrey said:

The human flags were out in force here last night. Letting off fireworks. It's only the quarter finals.

Turn it in your miserable man! We were just enjoying the moment. A reason to smile after a horrid 18 months. I was in picadilly circus, everyone was so happy, buzzing and it was great to see, one of the best nights I have had. 

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I really like the England team. I like that they seem to stand for everything that a typical fan hates. I like that Rashford wants to feed hungry kids, that Sterling calls out the S*n, that Kane wears a rainbow armband in solidarity with Neuer in the Germany match, that Henderson was wearing rainbow laces last night, and that they take the knee before every single match, and that Southgate just seems aware of his role as England manager, as an almost statesman.

 

I like the fact that they are together, they play well and that they might win the Euros. 

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On the topic of taking a knee, it pisses me off that there are teams that won't do it and with shitty cop out reasons. They'll release some statement saying 'we're against discrimination' whilst not doing that simple gesture. There's some who say they won't because it's wrapped up with supporting BLM as an organisation which is a cop out. Why does the act of taking a knee rile some fans up so much? The sound of people booing players taking a knee against racism drives home, as if it's not already obvious, that there's a huge problem and hopefully makes some put two and two together and question their stance.

And UEFA - 'we oppose discrimination in all forms, celebrate diversity, etc etc' but actually we don't want someone wearing a fucking rainbow armband. Then the Allianz is blocked from lighting up in rainbow colours against Hungary. Which one is it? If they're trying to be 'politically neutral' about it then don't bother giving the whole opposing discrimination bollocks. They backed down from the rainbow armband as their 'investigation' deemed that it's a "symbol of diversity and thus a good cause". As in the same rainbow that would have lit up the Allianz Arena...

 

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1 hour ago, Nexus said:

I really like the England team. I like that they seem to stand for everything that a typical fan hates. I like that Rashford wants to feed hungry kids, that Sterling calls out the S*n, that Kane wears a rainbow armband in solidarity with Neuer in the Germany match, that Henderson was wearing rainbow laces last night, and that they take the knee before every single match, and that Southgate just seems aware of his role as England manager, as an almost statesman.

 

I like the fact that they are together, they play well and that they might win the Euros. 

That’s the frustration; they do seem like a genuinely decent gang. Henderson seems to be the soundest bloke in football and it’s refreshing to see a team who really care for each other. That tweet doing the rounds the other day of Sterling giving the ball away nearly costing a goal, only for his team-mates to go straight over and get his head up shows their unity.

Can’t possibly get behind who/what they represent, but it’s no reflection of the players themselves. Good luck to them.

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I like to think the spirit of Jurgen’s nice boys has spread to that England team. As a not proud Welshman (national pride is for flagshaggers) I’m not arsed about them winning it. They by far have the best group of players left and Southgate has managed to meld them in to a functioning unit. It’s not total football but it works at this level. This is their best chance at winning something in decades and for me the only thing stopping them is an Italy team that is capable of shithousing with the best of them. Should be a fascinating final if they both progress.

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3 hours ago, thevestofdeanambrose said:

Turn it in your miserable man! We were just enjoying the moment. A reason to smile after a horrid 18 months. I was in picadilly circus, everyone was so happy, buzzing and it was great to see, one of the best nights I have had. 

Firstly, not a man. Secondly, not miserable. Thirdly, celebrate if they actually win a cup not just a match. Fourthly, my experience of the human flag brigade as a non-white Britain has not been positive and contributes to me supporting Italy rather than England in international tournaments.

 

 

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43 minutes ago, deathrey said:

Firstly, not a man. Secondly, not miserable. Thirdly, celebrate if they actually win a cup not just a match. Fourthly, my experience of the human flag brigade as a non-white Britain has not been positive and contributes to me supporting Italy rather than England in international tournaments.

 

 

 

Put your dummy back in soft cock 

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47 minutes ago, deathrey said:

Firstly, not a man. Secondly, not miserable. Thirdly, celebrate if they actually win a cup not just a match. Fourthly, my experience of the human flag brigade as a non-white Britain has not been positive and contributes to me supporting Italy rather than England in international tournaments.

 

 

This. I don't begrudge England doing well in a tournament. This is their best chance to win something in a good long while and they're hitting their stride at the right time, but I'm a quarter Hungarian and like to follow Hungary if they make it to a tournament. I'd love to have one of their shirts, or a t-shirt but am also terrified of what a certain set of fans might do if I did wear one outside. 

I'm terrified of what kind of stupid nationalistic frenzy Johnson would whip them into if England do win, it'd be good to win the euros as maybe it'd be a big cathartic moment and the frenzy would calm down going forward, but not with Flagwanker General Don't Call Him running the country. 

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