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2 hours ago, WyattSheepMask said:

Funny you should bring up Jinder as WWE Champion, as for some morbid reason I decided to rewatch this the other day after listening to the first part of Wrestle Me covering WM33.

In the space of 49 days, a mere 7 weeks, Jinder Mahal went from being beaten in the Pre-Show Battle Royale by Mojo Rawley, complete with getting smacked about by 'annoying fuck and NFL player' and future 'annoying-fuck, NFL player and Wrestlemania host' Rob Gronkowski, to beating (then) 13 time World Champion Randy Orton to lift the WWE Championship in front of a Chicago crowd who ironically cheered Jinder throughout the match in a "yeah, go on Jinder, I mean, you're not going to win, but yeah, go on" sort of way.

The whole match is completely arse-backwards, with Orton jumping Jinder before the bell and the ref asking Jinder, a crumpled heap in the corner, whether or not he wants to start the match. Oh yes, the valiant heel, that classic piece of wrestling booking. They then proceed to have a 15 minute punch-kick match, complete with plenty of armlocks and headlocks, because that's all that Jinder had at that point, he'd probably had a 15 minute match only a handful of times in either of his WWE stints at that point, as well as Randy sending the Singh Brothers into a different orbit because they're both about 10 Stone soaking wet.

The pinfall happens, and his title celebration plays out to a mixture of cretins actually cheering the dam thing, and everyone else stampeding to the exits. The highlight of the whole thing though - switch to the Hindi Commentary on the network to hear the two lads chanting "India! Number One! India! Number One!". He held onto that belt for nearly 6 months, racking up 2 more PPV wins over Randy, one which had the same distraction finish, the other an 'utter shite even by it's own low standards' Punjabi Prison Match, and 2 over Shinsuke Nakamura, again with the same distraction finish in both matches and a touch of racism talking about Nakamura's eyes, before mercifully dropping the belt to AJ Styles on RAW on the UK tour in November*. One PPV rematch with Styles, meaning that Jinder Mahal had 6 World Title matches on PPV in 2017, then it was back down the card where he belonged, picking up the US Title for 8 days along the way, before making up the numbers with sporadic appearances on Main Event, as well as the occastional RAW or Smackdown.

And you can't lay the blame at Jinder's feet either. He didn't ask to be put in that spot, he didn't politic his way into it, he was put into a position that he was never meant to be in purely because WWE were negotiating a new deals in India. He was thrown into a spot that he was never prepared for, and I'm fairly certain he's said in interviews that there were times where he would just in his car for hours at a time, scared to leave and enter the arena such was the pressure on him, which is actually quite upsetting when you think about it. I don't have anything against Jinder, there are plenty of people far worse than him and he has his place on the show same as others, but that place is nowhere near the top. 

* So no, that match with Brock didn't really happen

Jinder as WWE champ is a fever dream, A shit version of JBL

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JBL getting the belt I can understand, he’d had a couple of stop-start pushes at the end of the 90s and into the early 00s, and he’s a company arse licker, a bully and probably on Vince’s wavelength in many disturbing ways.

Jinder just seemed to go from being a very low level heel to shooting to the top of the card in no time whatsoever, a position which as I said he was never prepared for, not even in the slightest, and ended holding the belt for close to 6 months. He held it for longer than Roman Reigns’ 3 WWE championship reigns combined as well as both of Flair’s reigns and Edge’s 4 reigns. Batista, Mankind, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, all had shorter runs with the belt that Jinder fucking Mahal, its just fucking insane to think that he was ever put in that spot

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Just now, WyattSheepMask said:

JBL getting the belt I can understand, he’d had a couple of stop-start pushes at the end of the 90s and into the early 00s, and he’s a company arse licker, a bully and probably on Vince’s wavelength in many disturbing ways.

Well, yeah. I always use the rise of JBL and Edge as an example of how much star power had fallen off a cliff, but at least it was understandable.

Not only had all the proper stars left in one fell swoop, they also decided to split the already weak looking main event scene into two. It then caused a scramble of "Right....fuck... who do we have then?"

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2 minutes ago, WyattSheepMask said:

JBL getting the belt I can understand, he’d had a couple of stop-start pushes at the end of the 90s and into the early 00s, and he’s a company arse licker, a bully and probably on Vince’s wavelength in many disturbing ways.

Jinder just seemed to go from being a very low level heel to shooting to the top of the card in no time whatsoever, a position which as I said he was never prepared for, not even in the slightest, and ended holding the belt for close to 6 months. He held it for longer than Roman Reigns’ 3 WWE championship reigns combined as well as both of Flair’s reigns and Edge’s 4 reigns. Batista, Mankind, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, all had shorter runs with the belt that Jinder fucking Mahal, its just fucking insane to think that he was ever put in that spot

It was for that Indian tour, wasn't it? The tour that he didn't even have the fucking belt on. Where he  beat Haitch too. Crazy.

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7 minutes ago, TomJones233 said:

It was for that Indian tour, wasn't it? The tour that he didn't even have the fucking belt on. Where he  beat Haitch too. Crazy.

He' dropped the belt the month before the India tour. The match with Triple H happened on December 9th in Delhi, which Jinder lost because of course he did, and bowed to his master afterwards.

I don't think it was only for the India tour that he got the belt, I'm sure there were reports at the time that linked it to WWE renegotiating TV deals in the country as well as launching the Network there.

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Just now, WyattSheepMask said:

He' dropped the belt the month before the India tour. The match with Triple H happened on December 9th in Delhi, which Jinder lost because of course he did, and bowed to his master afterwards.

I thought he beat him, damn. Well what a waste of time.

 

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On what planet was JBL getting the belt understandable? He was two months removed from being out of the Acolytes who hadn’t even won the tag belts in over 4 years, with a singles pedigree of “8 days as European Champion.”

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4 minutes ago, air_raid said:

On what planet was JBL getting the belt understandable? He was two months removed from being out of the Acolytes who hadn’t even won the tag belts in over 4 years, with a singles pedigree of “8 days as European Champion.”

I think as he eventually grew into the role and settled in the upper midcard (his rightful place) that a lot of people forget at the time Bradshaw turning into JBL and winning the title was really fucking weird. It really wasn't much different at all from Jinder Mahal or Sheamus's first win. The fans never accepted him as a main event level star. 

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1 hour ago, air_raid said:

On what planet was JBL getting the belt understandable? He was two months removed from being out of the Acolytes who hadn’t even won the tag belts in over 4 years, with a singles pedigree of “8 days as European Champion.”

Was it only that long? I thought he’d been split from Ron Simmons for a year or so by that point. 
By understandable, I was meaning that they’d tried a couple of times to push him as a singles before changing their mind and just sticking back in a tag team.

And 8 days as European Champion is still more pedigree than what Jinder had. Excluding the WWWF era obviously, I think he was the first WWE Champion to win the belt without having a single piece of merchandise, that’s how far down the totem pole he was.

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8 minutes ago, Supremo said:

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This match graphic made my head burst trying to figure out how and when it could have happened. I have absolutely no recollection of Boss Man being in WWE during or after the Invasion.

He’d dropped down to the weekend shows by mid 2000 and got injured in April 2001. Was brought back in December that year, a few TV appearances and in the Royal Rumble in January 2002, then after that was tucked away on Jakked and Heat again until May when he assigned to OVW and eventually released in 2003

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