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Minor Annoyances (Vol 2)


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I really hate football positions being referred to by a number, especially as numbers are interchangeable depending on where you are.  In Brazil 6 is a left back, in the UK it was always a centre back and in Europe it was a more defensive midfielder (which I would always have as 4).  It also meant more before squad numbers became a thing and needs to fuck off.  Mason Mount is an attacking midfielder not a "number 10".

The only position I'll accept this sort of behaviour for is in goalkeeper.

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18 hours ago, BomberPat said:

That's actually sort of why buttons/zips are on the other side for women's clothes; when buttoned clothes were first introduced, rich men would have dressed themselves, while rich women had servants to do it, so buttons were positioned accordingly. 

Doesn’t it also have something to do with men in olden times drawing/carrying a sword in their right hand? This meant any buttons could be fastened with the left hand and were also more protecting in combat. That’s what I’ve always thought, anyway.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/03/the-curious-case-of-men-and-womens-buttons/388844/

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There’s a ton of brands that are putting the zips on the wrong side. I have hoodies from Nike, Nimbus, American Apparel, Russell and AWDIs and the inconsistency is terrible. Fairly sure my North Face jacket zips on the wrong size too. Not women’s, not backwards. But unsold Leftorium stock nonetheless.

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14 hours ago, Dazzer said:

I really hate football positions being referred to by a number, especially as numbers are interchangeable depending on where you are.  In Brazil 6 is a left back, in the UK it was always a centre back and in Europe it was a more defensive midfielder (which I would always have as 4).  It also meant more before squad numbers became a thing and needs to fuck off.  Mason Mount is an attacking midfielder not a "number 10".

The only position I'll accept this sort of behaviour for is in goalkeeper.

The only real time I've ever heard numbers used over position names, is No.9 an No.10. No.9 because it is the traditional number for your main striker(and was everywhere as far as I know), and No.10 being more of a non-British thing where it was assigned to the most talented, creative attacking midfielder/deeper playing forward(although it was also assigned to the sweeper/libero when said player was the playmaker).

In almost 35 years of watching the game though, I don't think I've heard other positions called a number(other than the 'keeper). Certainly never heard anyone describe a left-back as a "number 3", as in one of your examples. Not saying it's never happened, but it's not something I can recollect...

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"Number 6" has entered the vernacular more recently, meaning "defensive midfielder". I heard a lot of Norwich fans talk about our "double 6" last season (also referred to as "double pivot", apparently).

At the risk of derailing the thread entirely but in reference to @Dazzer's original post on the subject, I found this video very interesting:

 

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11 minutes ago, Statto said:

also referred to as "double pivot", apparently).

Language evolves, as does the way we speak and reference things such as  sports, and that's all good, but this is the absolute fucking worst. It is so meaningless, and is pure The Athletic wank speak.

Having said that, you're bang on about Tifo. Excellent content.

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24 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

"WHAT PLAY YOU"

It was a Lord of the Rings reference when I started the first thread of that nearly twenty years ago. Time to lock the thread and start again with a less crap title.

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17 hours ago, Dazzer said:

I really hate football positions being referred to by a number, especially as numbers are interchangeable depending on where you are.  In Brazil 6 is a left back, in the UK it was always a centre back and in Europe it was a more defensive midfielder (which I would always have as 4).  It also meant more before squad numbers became a thing and needs to fuck off.  Mason Mount is an attacking midfielder not a "number 10".

The only position I'll accept this sort of behaviour for is in goalkeeper.

The numbers thing has become annoying quickly. The Football Manager abbreviations grate on me too. We had a lad turn up to 6 aside and tell us he was a "CDM". It's fucking 6 aside mate, you're everything except goalie.

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Robbie Savage is the worst for this. Aside from being a clattering knobhead at the best of times, his commentary is made even worse with his numbers references.

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4 hours ago, Cod Eye said:

The only real time I've ever heard numbers used over position names, is No.9 an No.10. No.9 because it is the traditional number for your main striker(and was everywhere as far as I know), and No.10 being more of a non-British thing where it was assigned to the most talented, creative attacking midfielder/deeper playing forward

I’ve had people try and con me into thinking that number 9 was always the main striker and 10 the “second striker” or link up man but I simply don’t agree. Lineker wore 10 for Spurs and England, Michael Owen wore 10. Rooney only wore 9 for England because Owen was 10 and as soon as Owen stopped getting picked, Rooney wore 10 as often the only striker on the team.

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