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Not blaming the talent but wonder if would've stayed under the radar if guys like AJ didn't give insider stuff like Heyman hating, Good Brothers sacking etc.

If they kept it purely light hearted fan interaction and playing games on twitch or whatever they might've gotten away with.

I know nothing of these sites just playing devils advocate.

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My sources tell me that Vince is getting more in tune with social media and how it modernises integration with fans. As a result, all talent have to have Vince in their top 8 on MySpace. 

someone should just fucking brain him with a folding chair while he's in gorilla, just full on steroid era Barry Bonds home run right to the old cunts head then pull his kecks off while he's crying on

The people who need to grow a set are the punters who continue to overlook absolutely everything and pump their money into his pockets. 

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2 minutes ago, The Cutting Edge said:

Not blaming the talent but wonder if would've stayed under the radar if guys like AJ didn't give insider stuff like Heyman hating, Good Brothers sacking etc.

If they kept it purely light hearted fan interaction and playing games on twitch or whatever they might've gotten away with.

I know nothing of these sites just playing devils advocate.

It would have come up eventually. The guy is a control freak. He probably gets a daily memo from Pritchard listing areas he doesn't have full control over yet. Next month it'll be voting preferences. The month after, what they're allowed to ask Santa for.

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2 hours ago, AndiRush said:

The talent's brand is licensed to WWE via their contract. Twitch is a broadcaster and brand itself. Whilst I do think Vince could handle this better, I'd have thought it was given that you don't appear on unauthorised broadcasts or generate revenue streams based on WWE IP or your own likeness during the contract. 

Where does the WWE owned aspect brand begin and end, though? Likeness? Real names? Everything? It just seems shitty to me that WWE would hire these guys as independent contractors and not only want full control of their activities but would want the right to take the profit from said activities for themselves and most audaciously use said profit to offset their salary, essentially charging the talent for getting involved.

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55 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

It would have come up eventually. The guy is a control freak. He probably gets a daily memo from Pritchard listing areas he doesn't have full control over yet. Next month it'll be voting preferences. The month after, what they're allowed to ask Santa for.

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35 minutes ago, AVM said:

 It just seems shitty to me that WWE would hire these guys as independent contractors and not only want full control of their activities but would want the right to take the profit from said activities for themselves and most audaciously use said profit to offset their salary, essentially charging the talent for getting involved.

For someone with the username Anti Vinnie Mac, this comes across as perhaps slightly naive. 

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I had a flick through some of the WWE stars Twitch accounts and none of them are using their WWE name in anything on the channel, Paige was originally but changed it to Saraya. Adam Cole was Chugs or something and none seemed to have any WWE branding visible either.

 

They'd be mental if they agreed to this and surely Vince wouldnt have a leg to stand on apart from the threat of a court case costing big $$$

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26 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said:

For someone with the username Anti Vinnie Mac, this comes across as perhaps slightly naive. 

That takes me back. About 17 years to be precise. Might have to put myself in the username lottery.

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2 hours ago, Keith Houchen said:

For someone with the username Anti Vinnie Mac, this comes across as perhaps slightly naive. 

Maybe accurate - he'd have to be naive to be the antithesis of someone so utterly cynical.

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I don't think the difficulty in suing WWE is really the issue here.

They work for one of the only companies still running shows during a global pandemic and who just released a shitload of people, including people you would've assumed would've been lifers. Unless you've already established yourself as a star, or you're extremely confident about getting picked up elsewhere, then you'd have to be daft to cause trouble, no matter what the provocation is.

I don't know how much they make from Twitch but I doubt any of them will consider it worth risking their push or their pay, if not their actual job. Plus a huge portion of the roster are people who grew up dreaming about making it to WWE. They surely aren't going to risk that coming to an end over this are they?

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22 hours ago, Yakashi said:

That’s always been the trouble. It will cost these guys more money and time in court than they will ever make on Twitch. Look how much it cost Punk in court and he actually won!

Aren't those costs coverable in the decision?

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