Paid Members JNLister 3,095 Posted November 8, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I don’t agree with Vince’s decision at all. But if I did that video about my Employer [client who engaged my independently contracted service] in that way, I’d be getting a P45 tomorrow  Edited November 8, 2020 by JNLister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch 2,958 Posted November 8, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 So now Trump is on the way out, does that means there is more of a chance of sorting this independent contractor bullshit out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members unfitfinlay 379 Posted November 9, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said: So now Trump is on the way out, does that means there is more of a chance of sorting this independent contractor bullshit out?  Nah. No President is ever going to sort it out. America just isn't built that way. The only way it'll get fixed is if a wrestler manages to get to court and win. That would take a wrestler with a shit load of money to burn, who has only recently left the company and who is willing to sacrifice their future wrestling career to help everybody else. It'll never happen. Daffney's lawsuit against TNA is probably the closest it was ever going to get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch 2,958 Posted November 9, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, unfitfinlay said:  Nah. No President is ever going to sort it out. America just isn't built that way. The only way it'll get fixed is if a wrestler manages to get to court and win. That would take a wrestler with a shit load of money to burn, who has only recently left the company and who is willing to sacrifice their future wrestling career to help everybody else. It'll never happen. Daffney's lawsuit against TNA is probably the closest it was ever going to get. Looks like there’s already talk https://esportsobserver.com/andrew-yang-nlrb-wwe/ Edited November 9, 2020 by Hannibal Scorch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kfogg1991 207 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I don’t agree with Vince’s decision at all. But if I did that video about my Employer  in that way, I’d be getting a P45 tomorrow While i don't disagree with you at all. Really at this point what does she have to loose? She can't wrestle anymore......she gets called up to do a few media appearances here and there.....It's wrestlers like Paige that this bullshit really will effect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AVM 426 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 At least for active talent they have a means of making money, for non-active talent I'm not sure what the arrangement is but you'd imagine there's a pretty substantial short fall. That said, there's always the Pontins money to fall back on.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Zeb 1,897 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, AVM said: That said, there's always the Pontins money to fall back on. That's where they're doing Tribute to the Troops this year, isn't it? Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wordsfromlee 3,068 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Kfogg1991 said: While i don't disagree with you at all. Really at this point what does she have to loose? She can't wrestle anymore......she gets called up to do a few media appearances here and there.....It's wrestlers like Paige that this bullshit really will effect Probably that $250,000 a year the WWE pay her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AshC 447 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 I'd take the 250 grand rather than pissing about on some internet thing, tbh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DCW 443 Posted November 9, 2020 Report Share Posted November 9, 2020 What sort of money can be made on this twitch stuff? is it similar to the likes of Danielle Lloyd making 100k+ a month on that only fans thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Chris B 4,149 Posted November 10, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, DCW said: What sort of money can be made on this twitch stuff? is it similar to the likes of Danielle Lloyd making 100k+ a month on that only fans thing? I've seen somewhere else breaking it down and this sounds plausible, as the majority pay $4,99 a month. This link (admittedly 411mania, but still -Â https://411mania.com/wrestling/paige-not-getting-rid-twitch-estimate-income-platform/) puts it as expecting that she'll earn around $600,000 per year from Twitch, although acknowledges that it'll fluctuate and that's on the high end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members scratchdj 2,428 Posted November 10, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 I really don’t understand such things and so thought Twitch was for streaming games? I also thought it was free. So does Paige basically charge people to watch her play video games? There’s a market for that? Genuinely interested as that’s all new to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WyattSheepMask 3,447 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, scratchdj said: I really don’t understand such things and so thought Twitch was for streaming games? I also thought it was free. So does Paige basically charge people to watch her play video games? There’s a market for that? Genuinely interested as that’s all new to me. The basic thing is free, but I imagine it’s similar to things like Patreon whereby you also have tiers that people can subscribe to and get additional/exclusive content. You have to work dam hard at it to make any sort of money out of it, but yeah there is a market for it. It’s a similar situation to the whole Metallica/Napster thing. I can understand Vince/WWE putting the skids on people using their WWE names/likenesses etc on other platforms for financial gain and for which WWE are not getting anything out of it, but the way that they’ve gone about it seems to have been completely misguided and kneejerk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands 3,454 Posted November 10, 2020 Paid Members Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, scratchdj said: So does Paige basically charge people to watch her play video games? There’s a market for that? Genuinely interested as that’s all new to me. The market for that is huge buddy. KSI initially came to prominence playing FIFA while people watched, though I'm not sure that was on Twitch, or if you look at someone like Ninja who has 16 million youtube followers and over half a billion views. I'm sure there are plenty of others but they are the first 2 that spring to mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AshC 447 Posted November 10, 2020 Report Share Posted November 10, 2020 Upsetting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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