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13 minutes ago, Chili said:

Sorry man, it's ok and I retract the other post, I don't read things well at the moment and yeah, it's cool man. 

Easily done when the fog clouds your brain. Regarding the feelings of being a scrounger, I hear you. I worked for 25 years before my latest mental breakdown and haven’t worked since. And I’m one of the lucky ones who has been declared unfit for work. When I think myself as a scrounger I recall the words of Lord Daniel of Dyer. 

 

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I am of the mindset that the 'welfare system' (as shit as it currently is) exists as a safety net and should be there to help you.

I felt exactly the same when I first had to claim UC (silly brain), but then I thought "Well I've worked since I was 17 so this is what I've been paying towards" and that changed how I felt about it. Job Centre were absolutely fucking shit (and I say that as someone who didnt need much 'help' looking for work) and I feel that service needs a massive overhaul. I dont blame the 'work coaches' at all to be honest.

Even if you haven't contributed NI and tax, I believe that as a society we should be looking after everyone, but as others have said, the demonisation of the working class and the benefit claimants in this country has been prevalent for a long time. Most people who can work, want to work.

Of course this could all be fixed with a form of UBI, but thats a debate for another day.

@Chilisent you a message mate. Keep your head up.

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I have huge feelings of guilt about my situation. I get more than just the basic UC. It’s still below minimum wage but it allows me to contribute or make up rent payments that housing benefit doesn’t cover. Part of me feels bad constantly about that but then I try to remember that people shouldn’t have to live on the bare minimum to get by, they should be afforded a modicum of dignity. I haven’t and won’t go on holiday for years for example. But so many others won’t either and they’re working all hours to put food on the table and keep a roof over their head. 

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26 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said:

I have huge feelings of guilt about my situation. I get more than just the basic UC. It’s still below minimum wage but it allows me to contribute or make up rent payments that housing benefit doesn’t cover. Part of me feels bad constantly about that but then I try to remember that people shouldn’t have to live on the bare minimum to get by, they should be afforded a modicum of dignity. I haven’t and won’t go on holiday for years for example. But so many others won’t either and they’re working all hours to put food on the table and keep a roof over their head. 

That's not your fault though mate.

I felt all sorts of bad when I was on UC. I'd feel guilty if I got a takeaway or had a coffee out, or any kind of 'luxury' that I hadn't 'paid' for. 

I still feel guilt over those types of things even now to be honest, but that's because I'm an eternal worrier and angster. I count everything in terms of rent and what I could buy the kids.

God I'd love to be rich. I'd buy my little football shirts and then just send all the nice people on holiday :)

 

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I was on benefits for nearly a year once in my younger days and I may have allegedly had a little cash in hand side hustle. I’d never been better off and I never felt guilty. It’s absolutely ridiculous the cost of existing in this country and if a bunch of cunts in Range Rovers and gated housing estates want to make people of my ilk feel bad for trying to get a bit extra on top of the bare minimum it takes to survive then they can go and post angry comments on the Daily Mail website about it.

I ended up getting a really shit minimum wage job where I had to work 60 hours to get by and even then I was worse off but the worry of being an alleged benefit fraud was too much because do you know who hates alleged benefit frauds and loves to dob them in more than the Daily Mail wankers? Other people on benefits. Place is fucked.

So anyone who has played by the rules of a rigged system and paid in should never be ashamed of taking a bit back out, it’s the least you’re owed.

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Edit:

So in the space of an afternoon  the following has happened:

Union sent an email.

Senior manager 1 said that she'd never seen the email before and it was incorrect.

Senior manager 2 said the email was correct and that HR had agreed it because it didn't contradict their current stance.

Union said that the senior managers had never seen the email and that HR had never agreed the email and that it completely contradicted the current stance.

Everybody else is saying "fine, but what the fuck is going on?" 

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My shift leader at work has failed his probation, and the position has been advertised. I'd been on the fence about it for a few days as I have been covering the job on and off for years as part of my current role whenever a shift leader has been off, but always worried that I've not been doing it very well because I've not had me to do the stuff I normally do for my shift leader for me if that makes sense? 

Anyway, Mrs Jazzy thought I'd be able to do it, my current (soon to be ex) shift leader thinks I'd be able to do it because while it'd change the dynamic of our working relationship at the moment we do seem to work well together, and today my manager ostensibly said that from what he's seen of me doing the job when I have to I could probably do it. He always picks my brain about the workings of the warehouse and business anyway, which could work in my favour.

Anyway, I've applied now. The worst thing that happens is that after a probation period I'm not right for it and go back to my current job role. I've just got to wait and see. 

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Right, need some advice from Citizen Houchen and the HR cunts amongst you.

Redundancies have been announced at my pay grade at work. It's no surprise, most of our contracts were cancelled during the pandemic and lots of people were on furlough. I've been at my firm 20 years, and been through this a couple of times. I feel I'm safe and reading between the lines I think they want rid of a couple of others who have been underperforming for a few years, but we are all going to have to interview to preserve a veneer of fairness. The problem is I've worked fucking hard over the last year, through some difficult personal circumstances too. The job is getting worse for variety of reasons and this is a kick in the teeth after a very difficult year, when half the other people up for interview were furloughed. 

My first question when it was announced was will we be offered voluntary redundancy - no. I might have taken it had it been on offer. We've since been sent a new job description and competencies, which if anything made the job more tailored to someone of my skillset. However, one addition under "Essential Criteria" was to have a degree with "some numeric or computing content". My degree is in politics, there was no numeric or computing content and this was definitely not an essential criteria when I joined back in 2001 - and I was honest about my qualifications on my CV etc (at the time it was any degree to 2-1 level or something). 

My riddle is this - can I use the fact that they have introduced this Essential Criteria that I cannot fulfill, as a way to extricate myself from the job or interview process and still get paid what I would be due under a normal redundancy? If I refused an interview and was dismissed, would I have any grounds for an unfair dismissal? Or should I just suck corporate cock and go through the motions of the interview, safe in the knowledge that I will most likely still have a fairly decent job at the end of it? 

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@Guy BifkinYou met the essential criteria when you were hired, that criteria has changed now but that always happens when you’re in a job long term. I’d switch it up at the interview and ask them at what point over the last two decades did your performance no longer meet essential criteria and what aspects of the job you do and have done for twenty years will you no longer be able to do as your degree becomes irrelevant overnight. 
 

 

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29 minutes ago, Vamp said:

If I was thinking about getting a doctor to sign me off for depression is there anything I need to be aware of? Would future employers have access to that information? 

No. Even the old bill have to go through the courts to get that info. Although the Tory cunts might have changed that by the time I’ve posted this 

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27 minutes ago, Vamp said:

If I was thinking about getting a doctor to sign me off for depression is there anything I need to be aware of? Would future employers have access to that information? 

Nope, and not unless you give permission explicitly  for them to contact your Drs for medical records.  Even then Disability Discrimination Act of 2010 has your back regards long term conditions such as depression. 

Plus the usual Privacy considerations 

Hope you are getting support you need 

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I feel really guilty doing it but I've started to fantasise about ending my life when dealing with work shit. 

I've applied for another job somewhere else. It's just, my manager is breathing down my neck about my staff following the guidance of the union and since I can't fix that its making my anxiety go through the roof. I can't make people do something they've been told not to do by the union. Especially when the union have also told me not to do it. 

I just want to bang my managers' heads together and say "stop assuming you're right and try and actually talk to your staff instead of assuming they owe you a favour for being employed."

I also feel dangerously close to telling my manager the truth which, given his allergy to the truth, would probably result in a discipline. 

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