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So this was posted:

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It was deleted and then this was posted:

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I was about to ask what the fuck is wrong with some people, and then I remembered the thread I’m posting in. I have no idea what on Earth that was all about.

In short, It goes without saying but I truly hope all/as many victims as possible, have the opportunity for their accusations to be dealt with lawfully and legally.
I also hope they get professional psychological help, advice and guidance. As you’d expect there’s some dank fucking podcasters jumping all over this, “if you need to talk about what’s happened, get in touch, we’re here for you”. Get fucked, cunts.

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The algorithm that wrote Ospreays apology reminds me that not everyone's out for some sort of black and white ILLEGAL and NOT ILLEGAL thing here. I've seen people mention it in defense, out of curiosity, every angle. People don't go to police with things like this for the same reason nobody just knocks on Vince's coffin door about it. Not keen on going into details but experiences like this can fucking destroy you and I know from experience it's less about protecting a total cunt than it is keeping people you love from going through the same grief. Stuff like this happens because of hierarchys, power, all that shit. That's work and that's police.

It's not illegal to be a mental destructive cunt I guess but that's not somebody I want in my life, personally. Not to speak for anybody anyway, but sometimes the only justice you can get is letting people know.

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8 hours ago, iPumaPants said:

It's Florida law that he can't be fired whilst in rehab, and he entered rehab voluntarily. AEW might be in a bit of legal shit if they even suggest they plan to fire him. I should imagine, once his rehab is done, he'll be gone. I'm by no means a fan, I think he's awful, and if the allegations are true, he's an even worse person.

It's shocking that it takes this kind of thing for someone to realise they have a problem, and to get help, especially when they've been handed such an incredible opportunity. 


Is there any evidence this is the case, or is it something mentioned by someone on Twitter who isn't a lawyer? For example this is a Tampa-based lawyer talking about rehab in Florida and the law, and they never mention any laws specific to the state of Florida, which is odd if there is such a law in Florida. They do however mention the Family Medical Leave Act which is a nationwide law, not one specific to Florida. However to be covered by that there are three specific requirements that need to be met:

  1. The employee must work for a private-sector company that has 50 or more employees living within a 75-mile radius, or for a public institution such as a school or hospital.
  2. The employee must have worked at the institution for a year or more.
  3. The employee must have worked at least 1,250 hours in the last year.


While Havoc would meet point #2, #1 and #3 are much less clear. While AEW might have 50 employees, I'm guessing they don't all live within a 75-mile radius of AEW's offices. And I'm also guessing they don't meet the public institution exemption either. Perhaps more salient is the 1,250 hours worked requirement, would Havoc really have worked an average of just over 24 hours per week?

IANAL, but in the absence of evidence to the contrary I'd suggest there's no law stopping AEW from firing him.

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11 minutes ago, Tamura said:


Is there any evidence this is the case, or is it something mentioned by someone on Twitter who isn't a lawyer? For example this is a Tampa-based lawyer talking about rehab in Florida and the law, and they never mention any laws specific to the state of Florida, which is odd if there is such a law in Florida. They do however mention the Family Medical Leave Act which is a nationwide law, not one specific to Florida. However to be covered by that there are three specific requirements that need to be met:

  1. The employee must work for a private-sector company that has 50 or more employees living within a 75-mile radius, or for a public institution such as a school or hospital.
  2. The employee must have worked at the institution for a year or more.
  3. The employee must have worked at least 1,250 hours in the last year.


While Havoc would meet point #2, #1 and #3 are much less clear. While AEW might have 50 employees, I'm guessing they don't all live within a 75-mile radius of AEW's offices. And I'm also guessing they don't meet the public institution exemption either. Perhaps more salient is the 1,250 hours worked requirement, would Havoc really have worked an average of just over 24 hours per week?

IANAL, but in the absence of evidence to the contrary I'd suggest there's no law stopping AEW from firing him.

I'm sure I heard Havok actually has an office job with them, dunno what it is but I think that was part of him getting employed. Part of Cody's 'Extra Credit' criteria.

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10 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

The Kevin Nash raped in 1992 story is some weird 4chan meme, that gets posted every few months. Its sad as fuck.

First time I’ve seen it. Incredibly grim. 

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15 minutes ago, BrodyGraham said:

I'm sure I heard Havok actually has an office job with them, dunno what it is but I think that was part of him getting employed. Part of Cody's 'Extra Credit' criteria.

Future Jobs Fund must still be going in America

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4 hours ago, Supremo said:

Will Ospreay is one of the good guys! He tells us himself!

 

 

I'm trying to get my old training school, the self-proclaimed "safe space" London School of Lucha Libre, the same one Will went to and is still very close with, to take some responsibility after they booked Wainwright at London Lucha League. Their response is they were "unaware" of the allegations even though it was long after wrestling twitter  had already gone mad at Ospreay for his comments.

I wrote in an earlier post here that this had me hopeful for wrestling's future, but I don't particularly feel like fucking watching some anytime soon now.

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Former FWA and BritWres female worker Jetta just posted a long statement on twitter telling us how Jonny Storm, Hade Vansen, Brian Dixon and Colt Cabana are fucking creepy nonce cases.

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I remember reading something about Dixon yesterday, but I've forgotten the exact case in this absolute blur that's happening. Christ imagine the stuff he might have been getting up to in the 70s and 80s.

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Just now, sj5522 said:

I remember reading something about Dixon yesterday, but I've forgotten the exact case in this absolute blur that's happening. Christ imagine the stuff he might have been getting up to in the 70s and 80s.

Getting the photographer to take upskirt shots of Vicky Haskins.  Fucking scum.

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5 minutes ago, Weezenal said:

Said on here long ago that it's insane that wrestling training schools aren't subject to the same sort of checks football clubs are and every sport's governing body enforce these days.

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29 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

Look at this lot from the Exposed account.

"These names we have received, on more than one occasion. From men/women wrestlers, indie wrestlers, PROFESSIONAL wrestlers, refs, fans, coaches, camera men, merch people! "

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Sean Ross as in the guy behind the Fightful website? 

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