Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Carbomb said: Got a feeling we won't see Aldo vs. Hominick in this list though It was one I strongly considered Carbomb but it didnât quite make it. When the Countdown is over I might do a bit of a âHonourable Mentionsâ post with mini reviews of those fights. There were a few that barely missed it. I couldâve quite easily done a Top 50, to be honest, but Iâm already spending too much time watching old fights as it is. And with that... #6 - Wanderlei Silva vs Brian Stann - UFC Fight Night - Mar 3rd 2013 Oh yes. You knew I couldnât leave this bastard out. Wandy back in his old stomping grounds in Saitama. Literally âstomping groundsâ if youâre familiar at all with his Pride fights. Of course, Wanderlei will always be mostly associated with that legendary Pride run. For about a 5 year span from 2000 to 2005, Wanderlei was one of the most terrifying fighters in the game. He went on a 4 year unbeaten spree of pure violence, won the Pride belt, won the 2003 Grand Prix Tournament and had wins over the likes of Kazushi Sakuraba x3, Guy Mezger, Dan Henderson, Rampage Jackson twice and Yuki Kondo among others. Went to war with the much bigger Mark Hunt, went 1-1 with Ricardo Arona etc. It was a crazy run. But by 2005 the prime was over. He got badly knocked out by Cro Cop and Hendo at the tail end of his time in Japan. And when Pride folded, he came to the UFC in 2007 and had a really up and down stint there. One thing that stayed consistent though, was he was never dull. His fights with Chuck Liddell, Rich Franklin, Michael Bisping and Cung Le were all great fun. As were his quick shootouts with Keith Jardine and Chris Leben. Win or lose, never a dull moment as a Wand fan. Brian Stann had traveled a different path. A former US Marine whoâd got into MMA in 2006 and did pretty well for himself in WEC, briefly holding their Light Heavyweight belt. He signed with the UFC in 2009 and had fairly mixed results. But he was always a big hitter and it served him well in racking up wins over Chris Leben, Jorge Santiago and Alessio Sakara. Heâd come up short against the big names like Sonnen and Bisping though so this was his chance to get that signature win over a true legend in the game. âTonight in Tokyo, fighting Wanderlei Silva in the main event is the highest point of my career thus far. I have a tough fight on my hands. I see this fight being very violent. Wanderlei doesnât know any other way to fight, itâs why heâs one of the most beloved fighters in the history of this sport.â - Brian Stann â â ââHeâs a really good opponent. His style, he fights like me with his standup. I know itâs gonna be a great show.â - Wanderlei Silva  Wanderlei Silva vs Brian Stann UFC Fight Night: Silva vs Stann March 3rd 2013 Saitama, Japan Marc Goddard is reffing this one. Commentating are Jon Anik and...ah, fuck, itâs Kenny Florian. Never was a fan of his commentary. Round 1: Theyâre both circling at first but that shit doesnât last long. On the very first exchange Wandy clips him and Stann briefly drops to a knee. Both windmilling a ton of punches right off the bat. Wand with the Thai clinch, heâs kneeing and then Stann just starts going mad with uppercuts. Both punching and now Stann drops Wanderlei to his knees! This is all within the first minute. Stannâs nose is popped already. They both swing and Wand just smiles and waves him on... Love that. But as you can see there, he gets buzzed again for his troubles. Two minutes in and Iâm already losing track of how many times these nutters have been wobbled. Wandâs just got whacked in the bollocks. A visual treat for you there. Stann finding some success with leg kicks and Wandyâs trying to counter with punches. Then Stann suddenly bullrushes and chaos ensues... Jesus! They both hurt each other and Stann ends up getting a takedown. He ends the round on top but his nose is pissing blood now. Theyâre both covered in it. Honestly donât know how the hell you score that round. Who cares? Like the judges were ever necessary for this one. Round 2: Right where they left off. Every time they collide you can just hear the force of the punches. Theyâre putting 100% into every strike. âWeâre seeing these exchanges because both men do not wanna back down. They canât help themselves, theyâre so aggressive. Theyâre both trying to establish control here. And both believe they have more knockout power.â - Kenny Florian Stann seems to have had enough of the brawling and heâs getting his kicking game going. Itâs working pretty well. Wand keeps tagging him though and itâs forcing a fire fight. Big right from Action Man Stann. Headkick from Wandy. Stann lands a couple more right hands and heâs just starting to seal the round when Wanderlei fucking clobbers him... Wand follows up with absolute bombs on the ground and puts Stann completely out. Thatâs all she wrote. Winner - Wanderlei Silva by knockout. Round 2 - 4:08. Batshit from pretty much start to finish. Not the most technical but who gives a flying fuck? If you go into a Wanderlei Silva fight expecting anything other than just raw savagery youâre doing MMA watching wrong. I have such fond memories of this. I went in fully expecting Wand to get ironed out. Iâm always a pessimist when it comes to my favourites. So Wandy getting the KO in a mad fight like this was really something special. Class. This turned out to be the last hurrah for both really. Stann retired after this one. And this was Wandâs last great fight. The good times were over for him in MMA. He had that whole USADA saga after this then resurfaced in Bellator only to drop losses to Chael and Rampage. In hindsight, if heâd retired after this Stann fight and left his gloves on the canvas in Saitama, it wouldâve been one of the best MMA send-offs ever. No way. I remember this Silva vs Stann highlight from years ago. Just watched it again and got goosebumps. Watch it! Edited January 30, 2020 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted January 30, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted January 30, 2020 incredible fight. In an ideal world that would have been the end to Wanderlei's career, can we pretend the Bellator fights never happened? Looking back at it Wanderlei's UFC run was pretty awesome wasnt it. He took some heavy loses but fuck me, so much fun to watch. 9 UFC fights and 5 fight of the night bonuses says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 30, 2020 Yep. The Liddell, Stann and Cung Le fights alone made it all worth it. I think the two Franklin fights are fairly underrated as well. It takes a particularly dedicated shithead to have a bad fight with Wandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Wanderlei's game didn't work as well in the cage. The cage made it harder for him to back the opponent up against the ropes, where he could clinch, takedown or trip his opponent. To make things worse for him, he became a wild brawler later in his career, abandoning many of the weapons he had used in Pride. He also couldn't take a shot like he used to. Of course, none of this made Wanderlei's bouts any less exciting. He could still crack, meaning that most of his UFC fights involved him either getting knocked out, or knocking out his opponent. At the least, you would see a crazy brawl and a few knockdowns.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane O' Mac Version 2 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Pleasantly surprised to see Silva vs. Stann make the cut here. I love the fight but I don't often see it talked about. It's a go-to fight for me if I want to convert someone into watching MMA- but then it sets the bar too high for batshit crazy violence. Like my mum wanted to take a bit of interest in UFC, because she hates wrestling because "it's fake shit" and this is the real stuff. So I showed her this and I think she expects every fight to be in that vein. I showed her Gastelum vs. Adesanya a few months back and she said it was "a bit boring", making her probably the only person on the planet to view that fight that way. đ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted January 30, 2020 Youâre surprised that I, WANDshogun09, have ranked a fight where Wanderlei Silva won by KO in an absolute thriller in my top fights of the decade? Come on, Shane O, get with the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane O' Mac Version 2 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 đ Yeah, fair enough. I guess it's because, like you said, it's not a very technical fight, just rock 'em sock 'em madness. Chalk it up to a blonde moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ElCece Posted January 31, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted January 31, 2020 23 hours ago, wandshogun09 said: Yep. The Liddell, Stann and Cung Le fights alone made it all worth it. I think the two Franklin fights are fairly underrated as well. It takes a particularly dedicated shithead to have a bad fight with Wandy. That gif highlights 2 things 1) What an unbelievably large hard Tito has. 2) That he has the most slapable face on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted January 31, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, ElCece said: 2) That he has the most slapable face on the planet. Probably why he got so good at fighting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 6, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) #5 - Michael Chandler vs Eddie Alvarez 2 - Bellator 106 - Nov 2nd 2013 The rematch. After such an awesome first fight in 2011, it was inevitable that theyâd meet again somewhere down the line. Chandler had gone from strength to strength after beating Alvarez. Continuing his winning ways by stopping Akihiro Gono, Rick Hawn and David Rickels. Taking his overall MMA record to a perfect 12-0. Alvarez had bounced back from the loss in the first fight with two mega impressive first round knockouts of Shinya Aoki and Patricky Pitbull. But things got messy. The Pitbull fight was the last on Eddieâs Bellator contract and heâd received a substantial offer from the UFC. Bellator boss Bjorn Rebney was having none of it though. Bellator had a clause in the contract that they could match any offer from a rival promoter and they claimed theyâd matched the UFCâs. The thing was, the UFC had offered Alvarez a cut of any PPV he fought on, and the rumour at the time was that he was being lined up for a spot on the Georges St Pierre vs Nick Diaz PPV. A show that ultimately did somewhere in the region of a million buys. But Bellator tied Eddie up in contractual red tape, he missed the chance to appear on that show and Alvarez sued them. The details of Eddieâs proposed UFC offer came out because of the lawsuit and, basically, Eddie wouldâve cleaned up financially on that GSP vs Diaz card. His PPV points were reportedly; â˘$1 per buy if a PPV did between 200-400,000 buys. â˘$2 per buy if a PPV did between 400-600,000 buys. â˘$2.50 per buy for anything over 600,000 buys. So do the maths. GSP vs Diaz did around a million buys. Eddie stood to make well over $2 million just on the PPV cut alone. And on top of that heâd be getting his fight purse ($70K/$70K show/win money) and he was reportedly getting a $250K signing bonus. Plus any fight night bonuses. Bellator claimed theyâd matched that offer, which sounded ludicrous, but it stalled everything and Eddie was forced to stay put in Bellator. The rematch between Chandler and Alvarez was announced. And as part of fulfilling the âmatching clauseâ, Bellator decided to stick it on PPV. With fucking Rampage Jackson vs Tito Ortiz set to headline. Christ. I forgot all about that. Thankfully, Rampage-Tito fell apart when Tito pulled out injured. So Chandler vs Alvarez 2 became the main event and the show got moved off PPV and onto Spike TV. Michael Chandler (c) vs Eddie Alvarez - Lightweight Title Bellator 106 November 2nd 2013 Long Beach, California OK then. Eddieâs coming out to âThe Champ Is Hereâ by Jadakiss. Always liked that walkout from his DREAM days in Japan. Big John McCarthy is on reffing duties. Buckle up for this bastard. Round 1: They mostly box to kick things off. Chandler stuffs a takedown attempt but Eddie starts to get his jab going pretty good. Chandler starts throwing with bad intentions while Eddie tries to counter him. Chandler pushing the pace and gets a takedown and takes the back. He briefly gets the choke on but Alvarez manages to escape. Thought Alvarez was edging it until the last minute but Chandler ended strong with that takedown and choke. Chandler 10-9. Round 2: Both seem to have ramped up the aggression slightly now. Eddie keeps landing that lead right hand he likes to leap in with. Eddieâs getting the better of the exchanges slightly but then, once again, Chandler puts a stop to that with a couple of takedowns. Eddieâs back up. Chandlerâs eye is swollen and bleeding. Eddie connects with some punches and hurts Chandler. But Chandler with another takedown as the round comes to a close. Tough one to score. Chandler had those takedowns and they have to count. But for Eddieâs work early in the round, the damage, plus that sort of half knockdown, I had this Alvarez 10-9. The commentators had it for Chandler. Canât argue. It was razor close. Round 3: Eddie landing a lot again and now heâs also managing to stop the takedowns. Not good for Chandler. And like in the third round of the first fight, Chandler is looking a bit winded. He does manage to score another takedown and ends the round on top but doesnât really get anything done from there. Alvarez 10-9. Chandlerâs face is a state. Onto the championship rounds. Round 4: Looks like Eddie is sensing the finish, heâs going for the kill now. But Chandler fires back with a fast as fuck jumping knee to the chin that backs Eddie right up. Fuck me. That came out of nowhere. Eddie shoots and winds up on his back with Chandler in his guard. This is a proper gruelling battle. Now Eddie is bleeding from the eye. Chandler is smashing him from the guard. Eddie canât get up and Chandler beats him up for the rest of the round. Chandler 10-8 for me. That was a bad one for Alvarez. Round 5: Chandler isnât fucking about. Heâs throwing those jumping knees again. He wants this over with. Chandler landing now and he gets the takedown and takes the back. Heâs working the choke! He canât get it under the chin though so itâs more of a neck crank. Eddie somehow gets out of it and theyâre back on the feet having a slugfest. Both look spent but theyâre giving every last drop of energy trying to put each other away. Eddieâs got him against the fence and teeing off. Now Eddie takes Chandlerâs back. Heâs going for the choke! Fuck off! Imagine if Alvarez beat Chandler with the same move he lost the first fight to? It wasnât to be though as Chandler escapes and now heâs on top. This is insane. Eddie up and Chandler takes him back down as the round ends. Alvarez 10-9 for me. Winner - Eddie Alvarez by split decision. Eddieâs mate Bjorn looks well happy in the background here... Ha! I had it scored a draw but whatever. It was so close I wouldnât disagree with anyone having it to either man by a point either way. Unbelievable fight. As much as I loved the first one, this was even better for me. Itâs not balls out from the opening bell like their first fight but thereâs something about this one that takes it up a level for me. It builds and builds and that final round is really something else. They were supposed to do the rubber match in May 2014. It was announced and made official. They promoted it pretty heavily and put out some nice buildup shows for it. Then a week out from the fight, Eddie was pulled after suffering a concussion. In June that year, Scott Coker took over from Dodgy Bjorn. And one of the first things he did was let Eddie Alvarez out of his seemingly never ending Bellator contract. As much as Coker wouldâve probably loved to have had Eddie on board, he recognised Eddie didnât want to be there anymore and rather than drag it out, he set Eddie free and wiped the slate clean. And look at Bellator now. Never been healthier than they are under Coker. I honestly think Rebney mightâve killed Bellator by now if heâd been left in charge. He was toxic and his whole vision seemed to just be âletâs do a tournamentâ and forcing the PPV issue before theyâd even developed a strong and steady TV audience. Coker knows whatâs up. Anyway. Iâm still holding out hope that we see Alvarez vs Chandler 3 some day. Now Alvarez isnât in the UFC anymore it might be possible. Donât know how long Eddieâs deal with ONE is for but Iâd like to see him back in Bellator at some point. He was the man who put Bellator on the map in the early days and no doubt heâd have a much smoother relationship with Coker than he did with Rebney. This trilogy needs settling. And if they have a third fight anywhere near as good as the first two then itâll be the best trilogy in MMA history for me. Edited February 6, 2020 by wandshogun09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 7, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted February 7, 2020 Wow, looking at Chandler's record, there are some interesting things. 1. Aside from his first three fights, he's spent his entire career in Bellator. He's basically Mr. Bellator. 2. Aside from Brooks and the younger Pitbull, he's avenged a loss and he's 1-1 with Alvarez. He's still one of their top competitors. It would appear Chandler has potential for a trilogy match with Primus, potentially a revenge match with Brooks (who seems to have declined a bit since his UFC run) if he leaves the PFL, and the rubber match with Alvarez is obviously the most appealing. He's also got something of a rivalry with the Pitbull brothers. Very pro-wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) Chandler is Bellator's version of Mark Hughes in some regards. - Both were stalwarts of their promotion. - Both had multiple title reigns. - Both were pretty unlikable. Although Chandler is not as detestable as Hughes was. Edited February 7, 2020 by jimufctna24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 7, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 7, 2020 #4 - Jon Jones vs Alexander Gustafsson 1 - UFC 165 - Sep 21st 2013 This was never not making the list. I think this would be Top 5 of the decade by pretty much anyoneâs standards. Itâs mad though, going into the fight it was the last thing anyone was expecting. At the time the fight was made Jones was 18-1, with the one blemish being that DQ âlossâ to Matt Hamill back in 2009. Not only had he never actually been beaten, nobody had even come close. Heâd taken the belt from Shogun and then gone on a killing spree through the 205 division. Heâd taken out Rampage Jackson, Lyoto Machida, Rashad Evans, Vitor Belfort and Chael Sonnen. In a row. And finished all of them but Rashad. The closest weâd seen to him looking even a tiny bit vulnerable was the first round of the Machida fight when Machida had some success landing punches. That was kind of clutching at straws though if you were looking for weaknesses as he choked Machida unconscious and left him in a heap the following round. Gustafsson had been looking good himself but heâd had nothing close to the run Jones was on. He was 15-1 coming into this fight. His biggest wins were decisions over Shogun and Thiago Silva. But he hadnât really blown anyone away. Heâd also been submitted by Phil Davis in 2010 so that didnât bode well on paper. I remember the buildup to this all being centred around the size of Gus. The promos the UFC put out were all talking about how they measured up in height and reach and all that. At the time I didnât think itâd matter much. Iâd been dazzled by Jones blitzing through all the big names at 205. Gustafsson was just some lanky new kid to me. Heâd been impressive but I still saw him as the guy Phil Davis strangled. I fully expected Jones to take him down and either submit him or just elbow him into dust. Just a run of the mill defence. Jon Jones (c) vs Alexander Gustafsson - Light Heavyweight Title UFC 165: Jones vs Gustafsson September 21st 2013 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRound 1: Both kicking a lot early on. Especially Jones, throwing those nasty push kicks to the knee. Makes me wince every time. Gus is countering nicely with kicks of his own heâs already starting to get the jab working. Heâs landing more as the round goes on and doing a grand job of answering Jonesâ kicks with punches. And already, Jones is cut above the eye. Then with about a minute left of the round, it happens... Gustafsson gets a takedown. This was big at the time as Jones had never been taken down before. Crazy that it was Gus, who wasnât known for his grappling prowess, who did it first. I think that was probably a big factor, to be honest. The old element of surprise. The last thing Jones wouldâve been expecting out of Gustafsson would be wrestling. Jones gets up pretty much right away but Gus has given him one more thing to think about now. Heâs not just striking. Jones tries to even things up and score a takedown back and Gus stuffs it. Huge for him. And thatâs a Gustafsson round, 10-9. Round 2: Gus catches a kick and briefly gets the champ down again. Heâs getting the better of the boxing exchanges but Jones is still landing a lot of kicks. Jones still having no luck at all with his takedown attempts though. You can tell the big Swede had really put the graft in on his wrestling in camp for this, both offensively and defensively. You can clearly see the vast improvements in his wrestling compared to his earlier fights. âJones has had five takedown attempts stuffed by Alexander Gustafsson.â - Mike Goldberg Jones lands a hard elbow. Gus fires back with more punches. Jones is throwing loads of kicks now though. And mixing up the targets. To the legs, the body, then going up high. Gus eats another headkick and catches the leg but Jones rolls out of it. Only for Gus to stop another takedown attempt. Jones with another headkick. Gusty lands an uppercut. Jones started to have more success that round but itâs another Gus 10-9 in the books for me. Round 3: Same story. Gustafsson still working his boxing and Jones still throwing a variety of kicks. Jones throws yet another headkick but Gus doesnât flinch and answers with an uppercut immediately. Christ. âThis has been the most Jonâs ever been hit in the Octagon by strikes. And the most heâs ever been hit clean.â - Joe Rogan Gustafssonâs boxing is on point here but Jones is really going to town kicking the legs. Just a constant assault with the kicks. Hard body kick and a left hand for Jonny Bones. Gus is moving backwards a lot now. Jones lands a spinning elbow to the head. Jones jabbing as the round ends. Close but I had Jones winning that one, 10-9. Round 4: Jones starts off pretty strong this round but then Gusty starts tagging him at will. Jabs, body shots, head shots, the lot. And Jones still canât take him down! Fuck me. Gus is boxing the head off him now. Jones lands another fucking headkick but Gus somehow just absorbs it and keeps throwing. This might be Gustafssonâs best round of the fight yet. But right when I say that... Jones absolutely drills him with another spinning elbow. And this one lands hard. Gus is badly hurt and on rubbery legs and Jones is all the fuck over him. Jones with a barrage of knees and elbows and Gus is bleeding from the head. He somehow still manages to stuff a takedown, while rocked, which mustâve been seriously demoralising for Jones. But Jones just keeps bringing the pain with non-stop elbows, knees and punches. Gus is fucked. Fucked. Jones with a flying knee! Gus survives the round, fucking barely, and staggers back to the corner. Jones 10-9. Of course, now it would be a 10-8 no question. But under the old scoring criteria 10-8s were only really given for rounds that were overwhelmingly one-sided and dominant. This wasnât that and Gus was winning the round handily before that elbow. So by my scoring, theyâre even going into the last round. Round 5: Gustafsson miraculously seems to have recovered pretty well and is back on his volume striking. Hard elbow by Jones and Gus comes back with punches. Jones FINALLY gets that takedown! âFinally! On the tenth attempt, Jones gets the takedown!â - Mike Goldberg Gus manages to get back up but Jones bloody clobbers him with another hard headkick. Gus got his arm up but it still waffled him good. Gus just took it though. This is even more brutal than I remembered. He keeps throwing them but Gus manages to block them. A minute to go. More headkicks and an elbow by Jones. How Gustafsson is still upright, I donât know. A Jones flying knee lands and the buzzer goes. Itâs over. âUnbelievable! What a fight. That might be the greatest title fight in the history of the Light Heavyweight division.â - Joe Rogan Had that last round for Jones 10-9, so Iâve got him winning 48-47 overall. Winner - Jon Jones by unanimous decision. Yep. Two of the judges had it the same as me. One had it 49-46 which sounds a bit wide. It all comes down to how you score that third round for me and it was a close round. There were cries of robbery after this, like there always is after a close fight. But whoever got the decision here, nobody wouldâve been robbed. It was that close. I felt like Jones just edged it myself but wouldnât have been outraged if Gus got the nod. I think for some, seeing Gustafsson do so much better than expected and seeing Jones look human for the first time, they got carried away thinking Gus had won clearly. Nobody won clearly. There was very little in it. Either way it was a brilliant fight. An unexpected classic. This picture always reminds me of Rocky and Apollo at the hospital at the start of Rocky II after their first fight... âAinât gonna be no rematchâ. Except there was going to be a rematch. It was supposed to happen in 2014 but Gus got injured and thatâs when the Jones vs Cormier rivalry started. Gus got left on the sidelines. They did eventually meet again though in December 2018. This time it wasnât even close. In fact, the rematch went pretty much exactly how I thought the first fight would go. Jones dominated and eventually stopped Gustafsson by TKO with ground and pound in the third round. There was a lot of talk that Jones had underestimated Gus the first time, got complacent and didnât train properly. At the time I think people thought he was making excuses but maybe it was true. I can see why heâd have taken Gus lightly in 2013. The fact the rematch went how it did just backs that up further. Jones vs Gustafsson 1 will go down as an all-time classic though. 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jimufctna24 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Jones and his camp did his homework for the rematch. They were able to shut Gusty's game down. Nonetheless, I think Jones would have always been run close by Gusty in the first fight. Gusty's gameplan that evening was spot-on and he had Jones stumped for much of the early rounds. It was only after Jones switched to southpaw in round 3 that he was able to get back into the fight and eventually eek out a decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 7, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted February 7, 2020 Yeah, I think the first fight playing out how it did was a mixture of things. I think Jonesâ complacency was definitely part of it. But I also think just as big a part was Gustafsson being a bit of an unknown quantity. I donât think anyone realised he had that kind of fight in him. You canât until a fighter is put in that position. Heâd improved in the wrestling more than anyone knew (didnât he also take DC down in their fight?), his tactics were spot on and all that combined with his size made him a way more difficult puzzle for Jones to solve than anyone expected. The size thing was the big promotional angle but it was more than that. It helped but size alone wouldnât have gave Jones the kind of fits Gus gave him that night. I think the element of surprise was a huge part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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