David Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just hearing news of a terror attack on London Bridge today, with someone stabbing people and then going for what turned out to be a fake suicide vest before cops shot him dead. 2 people dead it seems. Hope everyone here who's London-based is safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 There's going to be a shitstorm surrounding the shooting, the guy had been completely subdued at the time and did they know the vest was fake before it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Merzbow said: There's going to be a shitstorm surrounding the shooting, the guy had been completely subdued at the time and did they know the vest was fake before it? I can't see any way they could have really. These cops are dealing with split-second decision making, where their actions could determine the lives of innocent people.Ā If the shooter had hesitated and the thing had been real there would be an even bigger shit storm. In the end, the guy knew what he was getting himself into. Take these types of fuckers out and ask questions later. He stabbed a number of people and killed two, so fuck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, David said: I can't see any way they could have really. These cops are dealing with split-second decision making, where their actions could determine the lives of innocent people.Ā If the shooter had hesitated and the thing had been real there would be an even bigger shit storm. In the end, the guy knew what he was getting himself into. Take these types of fuckers out and ask questions later. He stabbed a number of people and killed two, so fuck him. Oh I don't exactly disagree with you but this is going to be a main talking point if the initial reaction is anything to go by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, Merzbow said: Oh I don't exactly disagree with you but this is going to be a main talking point if the initial reaction is anything to go by. I'm no expert, but from what I saw on the video he wasn't entirely subdued. He was being held down by members of the public while they wrestled a knife away from him, then he reached for what was a device on his person before cops shot him. It all happened literally within seconds, and I don't think you can take a chance with that kind of thing. If it had been real and he'd been allowed to detonate it we'd likely be talking about a number of deaths, so the choice had to be made. It was the right one I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted November 29, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 29, 2019 It's been a bit of a flurry of news. A friend of mine was on the upper deck of a bus overlooking it, said nobody could tell what was going on from a distance, then they heard the gunshot. Fair play to the civilians taking him out - I hope they managed to stove his ribs in before the cops stepped in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 29, 2019 Author Share Posted November 29, 2019 It may sound terrible to be thinking this way, but I really hope whoever this guy is didn't come into the UK via freedom of movement within the EU.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted November 29, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Having seen the video and heard the facts it looks like the shooting is completely justified. Can't imagine it causing much of a debate. Edited November 29, 2019 by Chest Rockwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideload90 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Frightening viewing. Some tards on twitter are arguing state murder and how unnecessary it was. Seeing the video and knowing that there's a vest, regardless of whether real or fake, those officers carried out their training perfectly; the knife attack and the possibility of a vest justifies the response. People aren't tolerating this shit anymore and are taking more of a stand. Fair play to all involved.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted November 29, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 29, 2019 Personally, I agree with Corbyn that we should disable them rather then shoot to kill. However, when there is a potential bomb you have to make a snap decision and I think in this case the police were left with little choice but to shoot to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members quote the raven Posted November 29, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 29, 2019 Imagine if the police had second guessed and the guy detonated a vest killing the public holding him. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted November 29, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, quote the raven said: Imagine if the police had second guessed and the guy detonated a vest killing the public holding him. Ā Exactly. If that vest was real there would have been more then 2 deaths had it gone off. They had to make sure it didnāt go off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted November 29, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 29, 2019 So utter insanity as it appears that the attacker was somebody released on parole/electronic tag after being jailed for terrorism offenses, one of the men who subdued him was reportedly a convicted murderer out on day release, and both were attending a conference on prisoner rehabilitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted November 30, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) Yeah, the whole thingĀ seems odd. Seems like the chaos started in the conference room rather than the Bridge. Don't know if it's true but I read one of the dead was stabbed in the conference room. Edited November 30, 2019 by bAzTNM#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted November 30, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 30, 2019 14 hours ago, Merzbow said: There's going to be a shitstorm surrounding the shooting, the guy had been completely subdued at the time and did they know the vest was fake before it? Armed police procedure for a possible terrorist incident is basically to kill the guy three times over as quickly as possible to stop any chance at all for them to let off a bomb. They will never stop to check if a vest is real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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