Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted November 5, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Give it a rest soapdish. Edited November 5, 2019 by Chest Rockwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Back onto proper discussion, what exactly is the outcome that we're looking for here then? Obviously a Conservative majority isn't something most of us would want, but what would allow for a fairer outcome regarding Brexit? And by fairer I mean a potential second vote on the matter now that much of the reality of the situation is available for all to see. I don't think Labour can win a majority, as much as they really should be able to, but what kind of outcome would be considered a "win" here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallicks Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Labour majority, Corbyn gets presented with a special "I smashed the election" trophy by Tom Watson on the steps of number 10Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Followed by him doing his acceptance speech on the steps, before blasting L'Internationale on the loudspeakers and claiming the EU is an undemocratic superstate forcing pointless diktats on the peoples of Europe. "Fuck the EU", cried Comrade Jezza! "In January, we break free from the shackles!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 38 minutes ago, David said: what exactly is the outcome that we're looking for here then?  Full Communism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 A full Labour majority, Jezza buys back Royal Mail at market rate, Royal Mail's current fat cat ceo loses shit loads of money and I get at least a few years of not having to see Farages' saggy face on leaflets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted November 5, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Given a Labour majority isn't happening, the easiest would be if Labour + SNP makes a majority and they can just do the Double Referendum Alliance. Problem is even that requires Labour gains on last time (and reclaiming seats from defectors.) Probably the most realistic hope is Labour + SNP adding up to more than the Conservatives. That way either Johnson quits or you no confidence him, then Corbyn takes over, the SNP back him in any confidence/Queen's Speech vote, the Conservatives vote against, and everyone else abstains, meaning the Lib Dems get their referendum without "voting to put Corbyn in number 10". There's also the slim possibility that we get a similar situation to the current parliament with the Conservatives running a minority government, no clear path to replacing them, and we just get more gridlock until either the EU forces a final decision or Johnson decides to offer a referendum in return for his deal being passed. Edited November 5, 2019 by JNLister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted November 6, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 6, 2019 One for the TIL thread as well, but I just found out that non-UK Commonwealth citizens with LTR or Settled status are able to vote in UK general elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted November 6, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 6, 2019 Spare a thought for MPDTT this evening as his personal favourite Tom Watson's decided to fuck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Surprised that he didn't wait until the final week of campaigning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members stumobir Posted November 6, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 6, 2019 Does anyone know where I can buy these anti-Tory doormats? Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted November 7, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) You shouldn't obsessively check polls and projections every day, but if you do, this is probably the best one-stop way: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nUxnVJIFRo9A806IHtkTcd_Cxn1hO4P98nHCnBgeMFI/edit#gid=586083410 It's done by 326 Politics and is updated each night. It averages out the latest poll figures then tries to forecast what that could mean for each seat. If you scroll across the main tab, there's all sorts of juicy stuff like chances of winning the seat if the election was today and a simple "leans/likely/safe" ranking next to the result from last time so you can spot where seat changes are likely. The last tab on the spreadsheet tracks the daily projected seat totals, which might be a smoother way to track "how the campaign is going" than trying to track voting intention, particularly when it comes to where the votes make a difference. (Note this is only valid while it continues to show the Tory vote share ticking down each day. The moment it shows them gaining, it's clearly voodoo junk.) Edited November 7, 2019 by JNLister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Bifkin Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Tremendous excel skills from whoever threw that together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I dunno Bifkin, they didn't make the top of the bar charts turn into spurting penises... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted November 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Fuck Plaid Cymru and fuck the Greens. How they've formed a pact with the fucking Lib Dems. I'm fucking furious. How can a left wing Celtic nationalist party get in bed with a bunch of fucking orange bookers who will get in bed with a right wing party if asked and sel everyone down the river? Fucking Brexit obsession. I'm fucking fuming. I'm voting Labour. Edited November 8, 2019 by PowerButchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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