David Posted October 25, 2019 Author Share Posted October 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Carbomb said: That actually happened on the show? How odd. Of all the gimmicks he'd want to get in on. He wanted to be fake Undertaker initially, but he's too short to pull that one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted October 25, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 25, 2019 I assume they got enough money from the Saudis that they figured they could afford to stick him under a long-term contract to keep him away from other promotions even if he doesn't wind up doing as much/as well as Ronda Rousey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted October 26, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 26, 2019 (edited) From a financial perspective, I completely get it. Between FOX and the Saudis they’re absolutely drowning in cash and can woo whoever they want. He’s clearly got a passion for it so you can’t blame him for taking the big money to follow his and his family’s dreams, either. Everything about Cain in WWE is wrong though. AAA, New Japan or AEW, sure. He’d have been able to do his arm drags and hurricaranas, pop the crowd and go home. The WWE environment demands so much more though and with each passing week it’s clear he doesn’t have any of it. Being a great athlete and a quick learner is great, but on a list of what’s required on weekly WWE TV? That’s not even in the top five. You’re gonna need some charisma, the ability to talk, the ability to act, a connection with the crowd, a superstar demeanour, an ability to pull off believable angles, so on and so forth. Right now, he’s running on empty. He doesn’t even have a tough guy aura, despite the fact that he was once the scariest man on the planet. He’s just a podgy guy looking a bit lost and throwing shit, super fake punches at Shelton Benjamin. The real tragedy as I watch him floundering is that the one thing he did have going for him - the history with Brock - is being spaffed up the wall from the get-go for a show that’s practically non-canon, likely to be performed in front of a bored, uninterested crowd sitting on their hands in arm chairs. Even if they go with that great idea @BomberPat has, where Brock comes in expecting a UFC-style fight and Cain rocks his world with mad Lucha spots, how exciting can it really be if met by silence? And worse still, does that mean Cain wins and leaves as Champion? How’s that going to work? Is Rey going to cut his celebratory promos, too? You can’t hide his very obvious weaknesses forever. The closest I can think of making him work in the current climate is either for Heyman to turn on Brock and become Cain’s manager, allowing Cain to do very little other than stand in the ring, or better yet maybe have Cain eventually turn on Rey and team Cain and Brock up as some type of MMA Power Trip led by Heyman. Perhaps bring Ronda in, too? Heyman-led Ronda vs. Becky Lynch as the headliner, with Brock and Cain vs. The Mysterio Family as the co-main event at Wrestlemania, perhaps? It’s going to be genuinely fascinating seeing where he goes. Right now, he looks like the walking embodiment of Vinny Mac’s buyer’s remorse. A more famous version of those Tough Enough winners they threw money at. And that’s without even discussing how injury prone he is. The last few years as an MMA fighter he seemed to be made exclusively of dust and ibuprofen. Aren’t there already rumours that he needs another knee surgery? Not a good look when you’re hobbling out in a leg brace on your debut. Edited October 26, 2019 by Supremo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted October 26, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Supremo said: Aren’t there already rumours that he needs another knee surgery? He confirmed as much the last time he was on Helwani's show. He's torn something but is working around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWOLeN Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 9 hours ago, ColinBollocks said: He confirmed as much the last time he was on Helwani's show. He's torn something but is working around it. Heard him mention it several times. Smart, subtle way of setting up a cop out for him losing. After this show he will have the money for surgery.  Brock wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted October 26, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, LWOLeN said: Heard him mention it several times. Smart, subtle way of setting up a cop out for him losing. Fuck me, so he’s making excuses in wrestling as well now? Just like his MMA career then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Being a good athlete is definitely in the top 5 of what it takes to get on WWE tv now. Hell how many people in the WWE demonstrate good promo skills? And good acting has never been a requirement on WWE TV. I doubt they've really thought much about him past the novelty. They might as well make him a heel though. Whatever he does the WWE audience will turn on him.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted October 26, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 6:36 PM, King Pitcos said: Sheik Highlander When it comes to Highlander references on the UKFF, there can be only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack Posted October 27, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 27, 2019 Having only seen short WWE clips on facebook; the intro was good. Brock sold it well. Cain needs to either get ripped or build muscle (or both), as it stands he just looks like any guy on the street. So to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted October 28, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 12:40 PM, BomberPat said: Presumably beheadings? Sorry, for some reason just saw this now. Don't know how I missed it. Makes absolute sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/26/2019 at 4:56 PM, LWOLeN said: After this show he will have the money for surgery. he's most likely not hurting for money as it is in all honesty. He's not doing this for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_3165 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I don't know him as I don't watch MMA... Not sure why I should be invested emotionally in him tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted April 28, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted April 28, 2020 And that’s the end of Cain’s WWE career. A sacked man. The subject of a sacking. Hardly surprising. Only a crazy old man with more money than sense could have ever expected anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted April 28, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) At least Brock got his win back, brother. Proper shit show of a run; Cain showed absolutely zero instincts for the fundamentals of WWE which should further highlight what a freak Ronda is. I wonder if Cain will go back to UFC, or this is just "by for now"? Edited April 28, 2020 by ColinBollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted April 28, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted April 28, 2020 what a bizarre run that was. I loved his couple of matches in AAA, and thought it would have been a guaranteed huge pop if he unexpectedly started busting some out of his Lucha spots in a WWE match once everyone had come to expect him to just do worked MMA. It would have been great for a rematch with Lesnar to have Brock go in expecting more of the same, only for Cain to show that he'd adapted and bust out a couple of arm drags, springboards and Ranas. Would make sense given that he's been on-screen linked with Rey Mysterio, too. If, as he said in AAA, he's committed to wrestling as his career now, it could be really interesting to see where he pops up next. Back in AAA seems plausible, but with the option of popping up on shows like Josh Barnett's Bloodsport could be fun, and it wouldn't be the worst get in the world for AEW to be able to say that they have one of the only three men to have beaten Brock Lesnar in MMA on their books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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