Paid Members CleetusVanDamme Posted October 16, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, MungoChutney said: and another term I'm not even going to repeat. Please say it was "skirt-wearing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrongStyle Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Devon Malcolm said: Fucking hell. I agree. That's what I said when I read the term "porridge wog", which is exactly the kind of chat I referred to in my earlier post. But just bantz, lads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 6:33 PM, Devon Malcolm said: I really miss the Scottish football thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoChutney Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: How is that relevant to this discussion? Are we only allowed to talk about racism in English or international football in this thread? Edited October 16, 2019 by MungoChutney No idea why but quote won't display properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Ronnie Posted October 16, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, MungoChutney said: No idea why but quote won't display properly. It's because you quoted a post which contained no content other than a quote. Quotes within a quoted post don't show. If Houchen had written something, that would've featured in your post, although the quote he'd included wouldn't have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, MungoChutney said: You think those terms are ok to use? Remember that "Racism is engrained in certain nationalities nature." Such as England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted October 16, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 16, 2019 Yeah. It's good to see you haggis munchers have a pop at the sassanachs. Us sheep shaggers rise above it of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 10 hours ago, MungoChutney said: I'm not sure how prevalent the issue of racism is in English club football, but I've definitely been aware of an element within the national team support and of the James Mclean stuff. In Scotland, Rangers have had two partial stadium closures this season by UEFA for racist and sectarian chanting. For some reason the Scottish media mainly reported this as sectarian, possibly because it's then easier to peddle the two sides are bad as each other argument. They don't need any help in peddling that line, trust me. both sides of the Bigot Brothers offer enough assistance on that front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoChutney Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, David said: They don't need any help in peddling that line, trust me. both sides of the Bigot Brothers offer enough assistance on that front. I disagree. Absolutely elements of the Celtic support that need to be addressed but there are many more issues with the Rangers support and only one club has been cited for racism here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, MungoChutney said: I disagree. Absolutely elements of the Celtic support that need to be addressed but there are many more issues with the Rangers support and only one club has been cited for racism here. That's only because it wasn't deemed to be as big an issue when you lot were throwing bananas at Mark Walters back in the day. Edited October 16, 2019 by David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MungoChutney Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, David said: That's only because it wasn't deemed to be as big an issue when you lot were throwing bananas at Mark Walters back in the day. As appalling as that behaviour was, it was 20 years ago. Is there a more recent example? Happy to take on board your point if there is. In terms of the current situation, I am absolutely certain that Celtic and their support have done more to address fan behaviour than Rangers have. While they continue to sell orange strips anything else they do is undermined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted October 16, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) There's a bloke who drinks here wearing a bootleg Celtic shirt with Tiocfaidh Ár Lá written on it. That's hardly great form around here in a Welsh village. Edited October 16, 2019 by PowerButchi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, MungoChutney said: As appalling as that behaviour was, it was 20 years ago. Is there a more recent example? Happy to take on board your point if there is. Wasn't a Celtic fan actually jailed for racism towards El Hadji Diouf? For making monkey noises at him? That wasn't long ago. Look, both sides of the "old firm" are deplorable. This pathetic little "we may have our problems, but we're not as bad as them!" line is tiresome. I fail to see how being slightly less sectarian than your rivals is something positive? There's a reason why the English Premier League has never been interested in either of you, despite the interest and money you'd undoubtedly bring. It's because of the baggage associated with both clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Cod Eye Posted October 16, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, David said: Remember that "Racism is engrained in certain nationalities nature." Such as England. I admit, I had a bit of a 'mare there. I think what I was trying to say is that, while it was prevelant and deeply rooted in our society, it's very much being diluted as each passing generation dies out. I remember as recently as the early to mid 90's Ian Wright getting dogs abuse by the Barnsley fans during a League Cup game at Oakwell, and all the adults laughing about it in the pub after. But very recently, a mini-brawl started in the home end because some of the older fans sand a racist song. That tells me that over here, the biggotry is becoming less and less acceptable. But can you say that about Bulgaria(for example) where even their high ranking FA officials are denying and excusing the actions of what appeared to be a group of young men? Edited October 16, 2019 by Cod Eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Does the lad doing all the unbiased moaning about how Rangers are the bad ones in the Old Firm rivalry happen to be a Celtic fan, by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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