Paid Members LaGoosh Posted September 14, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Richard said: My own personal voyage has gravitated towards creating a family. Fucking hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, LaGoosh said: Fucking hell. what's the problem? Â Happens a lot on here. No-one can form a coherent argument against mine so they try and pick apart tidbits. Edited September 14, 2019 by Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted September 14, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 14, 2019 Maybe that you haven't actually backed up any points beyond "they're different", or that "high culture" Vs "low culture" is just classist snobbery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Just now, BomberPat said: Maybe that you haven't actually backed up any points beyond "they're different", or that "high culture" Vs "low culture" is just classist snobbery? Not an argument. Edited September 14, 2019 by Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted September 14, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Richard said: what's the problem? Probably your lack of self awareness. Using big words to cover up a basic unintelligent opinion, describing your personal voyage and bragging about a sociology(!) degree isn't exactly going to endear you to people or lead to any interesting forum discussion. Edited September 14, 2019 by LaGoosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaffer Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Richard said: I have a degree in sociology but appreciate the tip. Some of you lot belong back under the tent flaps with the palm readers. 28, happily engaged, moonlighting what I'd call a fairly successful and sociable adult life thus far. I retain a large part of my interest in wrestling watching through a lense of nostalgia, no doubt, but I also keep my eye on the ball with current events. It's mostly garbage but once or twice a year something will genuinely get a reaction out of me. It's good fun following all this stuff, still. Drawing boxes around me yet? I kind of get your initial point. I saw a grown man in a Marvel shirt the other day which simply had the release dates of all the upcoming movies printed on it. Got me wondering. Then you snap back into the real world and realise the nerds have won. Plenty of them are married. There's a generation of kids on the way whose parents met dressed funny at conventions. Whatever gets you going. It's no more real or bullshit than dancing with her and getting the feels in a local for the first time, trapped inside that tune by the Farm. The Russel Brand post dismissing comparisons between EastEnders and wrestling killed me, though. I think I even want to read more on it. Not that I'm emotionally invested or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 The sociology degree was definitely worth all the money just for this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Still no-one has attempted to spar with my original points. I know it's threatening. It's okay. @Gay as FOOK no-one asked for your life story. I'll be waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_3165 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Richard said: Dancing is socially acceptable. Strictly is shit, but pro-wrestling is worse. Dancing is quite clearly a respected art form that stretches back centuries and is a pillar of not only western civilization but the entire world. It transcends language. Pro-wrestling is gutter entertainment to be honest. It's embarrassing. Anyone that extracts any kind of emotional attachment to wrestling after a certain age hasn't lived. If you've gone through addictions, broken relationships, lost loved ones and been laid off work, you can take pro-wrestling or leave it. If wrestling is that embarrassing and from the gutter why do you watch? Genuine Q. Are you honestly suggesting that the popularity of something and the perception of it by the majority takes away from the art of it? Also does having break ups etc prevent you from having aan emotional response to good wrestling? It's not a binary either-or. You surely can have shit happen in life and still be invested in something 'less' important? If not then your 'living' sounds mighty dull to me. Unsure why there is even an argument here. Sounds like you are spoiling for one but just want to get why you think as you do. If you are looking ffor intellectual debate I'd kindly go elsewhere. As for the degree. Good for you. You won't cure cancer or save the economy but its nice nonetheless. Anyone who shuffles paper for a living shouldn't have a pop about it! That said your turn of phrase aand general superiority complex is interesting. Unsure where that comes from and may be something to reflect on and check those books. It will get people's backs up. Respectfully obv. Edited September 14, 2019 by Michael_3165 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaffer Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, Richard said: It's okay. @Gay as FOOK no-one asked for your life story.  8 hours ago, Richard said: My own personal voyage has gravitated towards creating a family. Probably is your lack of self awareness, yeah. If you take your head out of your arse, I think my post had a sort of ongoing theme of responding to your original argument. Not sure would it stand up to a thesis, but the general gist of it was "we're all different, fuck off". My research for this cack-handed argument hinges on the fact that I have a life and I still get some sort of emotional draw from 'rasslin. It's probably not a good idea to use the whole having a life thing in your opening gambit if you don't want to hear someone's life story. Then again it's probably an even worse idea to go and get a degree in sociology. Is this the first time this week you've gotten to introduce it in a conversation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Accident Prone Posted September 14, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 14, 2019 I think the OP is a bit pissed off that he's had to give up his hobbies and pastimes since 'starting a family', and is using it as a point of superiority instead of the exhibition of old-fashioned self-destruction that it really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted September 14, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 14, 2019 Richard's opening post in this thread has to be the most baffling thing ive ever read on a 'Pro Wrestling Forum'. Did he end up here by mistake? you lost mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Weezenal Posted September 14, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 14, 2019 Richard, out of interest what class was your degree? Where are you based? I will search for some debating clubs for you to spar at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted September 14, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 14, 2019 If it was a debate club he'd be getting marked down anyway, for not sticking to the topic at hand and attempting to shoehorn in his sociology nuggets when they are completely irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanLynn Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 OT, wrestling, just like any other performance type, is a skill that can be learned and perfected. It is an art form, but not all wrestling is a work of art. I'd argue true art fuses technical skill, wider message or interpretation, and personal creativity, so certainly a great match can cover two of those three. A wrestling character might capture the zeitgeist once in a blue moon, but I don't think any wrestling has had anything to say or pushed new themes and ideas into the limelight, whether that be due to its inherent nicheness or simply not being an appropriate platform because of its foundation of resolution through (simulated) physical violence. But it is fun, though. A great match blends physical athletic spectacle with broad emotional human drama. Great works of art, but not to change the world as great art can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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