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Right people, right time, just the wrong location.

Fucking hell who’s arsed. Let people get excited about things.

For a TV Guide photoshoot promoting a new wrestling show, this is what you want to see. Not you brothers wedding reception, like those cunts above. You're selling professional wrestling. Nothing else.

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However they did it, a Women's division was always going to take longer. When they started, they had a bunch of popular, marketable, recognisable wrestlers. They were all men.

Personally, I think bringing in a bunch of Japanese girls was the wrong move. They needed women who can talk and who can pull off a character. A Riho or a Shida amongst a good cast would be different. A load of Japanese girls just felt like an island alone. It was a token effort.

I'm not sure they're that fussed about a women's division. That might be the long and short of it. They might just be making sure there is a segment or two on each show because there absolutely has to be these days. 

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54 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said:

Considering how well they've done with the male talent, how have they managed to mess up the womens division quite so much? Its quite strange really.

There's no where near the number of top level available female talent that there is for men so it's not surprising really that AEW couldn't put a half decent division together. 

Additionally, WWE has invested massively for years to get its female roster to its current level. AEW are nowhere near that and it's unlikely to get better in the near future. I agree with tiger_rick, they just don't seem that bothered. I'm not that bothered either, the male roster is absolutely stacked and filled with guys I'd rather get TV time than any of the women on the payroll.

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They've dropped the ball fairly consistently with the women and continue to do so. They brought in Nicole Savoy for the tag tournament, Savoy was in great shape and looked really good, much better than in her Mae Young/NXT appearances, and was one of the few stand outs. They signed Tay Conti.

They've let a bunch of good talent go to Impact instead of snapping them up. I honestly don't see why they let Kimber Lee, Jordynne Grace, fuck even Tenille Dashwood, go that way without picking them up. 

They had Mercedes Martinez come out as the Joker in the Casino Battle Royale at last year's All Out, to a good pop, but let her go to NXT.

There's a lot better than what they've got, but it feels like they're holding their breath for the Japanese lasses coming back.

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2 hours ago, Supremo said:

I don’t like Hangman’s tights. He looked way better in trunks.

I'm assuming it's a play on the okada baggy tights situation, where his confidence has become eroded to the point where he's even doubting the whole full gear thing. Eventually he'll have a match where the chaps come off and the crowd lose their shit. 

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9 minutes ago, poetofthedeed said:

I'm assuming it's a play on the okada baggy tights situation, where his confidence has become eroded to the point where he's even doubting the whole full gear thing. Eventually he'll have a match where the chaps come off and the crowd lose their shit. 

This is what wrestling has come to? 😂

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They really missed the boat on Jamie Hayter as well, though she might have gone the same way as Bea with the way things are I guess.

Felt to me like the division was going to be Omega's vanity project where he could book all of his mates but the pandemic completely fucked everything up, leaving only Shida.

TJPW also had nowhere near the roster depth (they actually seem to be losing wrestlers now) to continue sending their top names to the US.

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10 hours ago, BrodyGraham said:

They've dropped the ball fairly consistently with the women and continue to do so. They brought in Nicole Savoy for the tag tournament, Savoy was in great shape and looked really good, much better than in her Mae Young/NXT appearances, and was one of the few stand outs. They signed Tay Conti.

They've let a bunch of good talent go to Impact instead of snapping them up. I honestly don't see why they let Kimber Lee, Jordynne Grace, fuck even Tenille Dashwood, go that way without picking them up. 

They had Mercedes Martinez come out as the Joker in the Casino Battle Royale at last year's All Out, to a good pop, but let her go to NXT.

There's a lot better than what they've got, but it feels like they're holding their breath for the Japanese lasses coming back.

Wasn't Jordynne signed to a long term contract before AEW became a thing? Dashwood isn't really that big of a miss. 

Maybe Mercedes got offered a big money deal for 5 yrs and AEW couldn't match the offer

The one that All Elite missed out on was Deonna Purrazzo. She would have been great.

 

 

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I really like it when AEW do a hot open like this week, with an act already in the ring or mid entrance. It feels like you've mistimed your preshow piss or beer run and are running back to your seat. It's a subtle bit of variety that helps break up the show - when you've got half a dozen matches on a show, it's really important to switch up the presentation a couple of times. AEW do this really well.

I refuse to believe either of the Bucks walk around with 5 grand in their pocket. Especially notes so crisp they look like Kendall mint cake. Matt still comes off as affected and try hard, but if it just makes me hate him more, I guess that's working. Not sure what Nick's going for, but he looks pretty bored most of the time.

Top marks to FTR, shit-grinning at other heeling. Also top marks for getting the fuck out of dodge when Luchasaurus tagged in. A really fun opener, with some fantastic pinning reversals - only just got off a run of watching Barry Windham reverse powerslams with small packages on YouTube, so it was cool watching Jungle Jack bring it back from the old school. Solid cutoff and tag work from Dax and Cash, Luchasaurus doing his bit, Perry looking smooth and fiery, and a shenanigans flash finish. Good stuff all round.

I've got lots of time for a vet like Kaz, so him vs Page was always going to get a double thumbs up from me. The Okada trunks reveal is DEFINITELY what they're going for. It's not the whole angle, but a great bit of seasoning that adds even more depth to the eventual moment. There's even the smarky ideas around trunks being the main event look, so going to tights looks like Page consciously demoting himself. When I spotted Page looking over to the commentary desk, I just knew Kenny was leaving before the end, and after a great transition getting more and more dismissive of Hangman as the commentary team pressed him, he bloody did, the shit bag. Like someone said elsewhere, sometimes an angle needs to go where you think it's going to go. Poor beautiful Hangman. Also, I loved the finish sequence of this match, just a smooth series of counters to moves hit or teased early on. 101.

Kingston and Co. masterminding a great little angle. If there's no big feuds for them at the moment, and viewers are still unconvinced at the odd couple grouping, it makes perfect sense to take the time to build the team dynamic from inside. Eddie's so engaging on the mic, entertaining but always with that psycho streak bubbling below the surface.

Speaking of team building, it does feel like AEW is building to something bigger with this. With the Bucks and Omega seemingly on the verging of splintering into their own thing, Kingston's crew, Inner Circle, Tazz and Roberts joining forces, Tully's Horsemen, and then MJF talking about a faction, there's a lot going on. It might be a short term angle, or a one off gimmick match on the horizon or some ludicrous Freebird team title gimmick, but it all adds to the world of the roster.

I don't know what happened in the women's match. Early on, Ivelisse went for a second slap when Rosa was still reacting to the first, and after that, timing was completely off. They were clearly on completely different pages. I think Rosa came off better in that I didn't see anything she might've been doing to derail things, but something had pissed someone off. The fact they continued working OK suggests what we got was still what intended, so if there was any shooting, it was either just a bit of snugness, or one wasn't rising to the other. Maybe working prerecorded LU meant Ivelisse has picked up the habit of switching off when things go wrong, or robotically going through the match plan regardless of her opponent's pacing. Bad form.

Womens division has suffered from there not being a clear all rounder to build the division around. Baker is great in skits, but pretty average in ring. Shida is OK in ring but still hasn't overcome the language barrier. Rose is a solid monster but is currently hamstrung by an unnecessary and anachronistic manager. Ford is on the rise but not there yet. Honestly, it's tempting to make Rosa double champ.

Fire promo from Mox because of course it was. Great bit of rub for big man Will, and a good little TV match cued up nicely. The shine is off the Roberts connection. It's pretty clear that, in a room with a camera, a couple of takes and no one else there to take his 'spotlight', Jake is gold. But he just can't be trusted to hold things together live in ring. Archer's been doing his homework though. If the purpose of pairing him with Jake was to tighten up his mic work, then mission accomplished. A killer world champion indeed. Get him in orange and black and on Team Taz. It should be clunky, but I really like "We Build Assassins."

Jericho chugging along doing his thing. I hope Marq Quen never ditches the coat tails ring gear, it's a great unique look. Loved Hager and Y2J's version of Too Sweet with the clinking bubbly.

Miro makes everything work and everything better. Such easy charisma, I'm sold on him and Kip being mates. What a unit. What's Bulgarian for "Jack and tan"? 

OC for the TNT confirmed moments before the Parking Lot Fight? Get in my veins. When the hook for a title match is "how the fuck is this going to turn out!?", I'm in.

I love Trent. It's official. Ridiculous, ripped, deadpan, spaghetti legged Trent. The whole match was a great fun stunt show. Cars lined up for their own mini spots like a video game arena, genuine reactions, hardway blood. Santana cos playing as Puerto Rican Great Muta, stalking with a lead pipe. Trent getting seesawed into the truck door. Chuck keeping his top on. Orange Cassidy waking up from a nap. The big stunt finish and then the bird-flipping hero exit. Never before have wrestlers looked so cool going home with their mum.

 

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Some really enjoyable bits on that show. Moxley's promo was my favourite segment of his in ages, fully sold me on the six man tag next week which I'm now properly looking forward to.

Kenny Omega feels like he's finally hitting some sort of groove. Just the right level of obnoxious on commentary, and how dare he just get up and leave? Get him Hangman!

Main event was great. Felt like something different and became special for it. Some brutal moves in there, but all spaced out enough that each one meant something. And a great, happy ending. What's not to like?

 

Question - they're plugging the anniversary show for October 14th. ITV Hub says this week's was episode 50. Are they not a week or two out, or are ITV counting episodes that weren't Dynamite as Dynamite?

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21 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

Some really enjoyable bits on that show. Moxley's promo was my favourite segment of his in ages, fully sold me on the six man tag next week which I'm now properly looking forward to.

Kenny Omega feels like he's finally hitting some sort of groove. Just the right level of obnoxious on commentary, and how dare he just get up and leave? Get him Hangman!

Main event was great. Felt like something different and became special for it. Some brutal moves in there, but all spaced out enough that each one meant something. And a great, happy ending. What's not to like?

 

Question - they're plugging the anniversary show for October 14th. ITV Hub says this week's was episode 50. Are they not a week or two out, or are ITV counting episodes that weren't Dynamite as Dynamite?

The debut show was Oct 2 last year, so the anniversary show will be #54, not that it matters too much, I suppose.

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