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1 hour ago, Egg Shen said:

I cant believe AEW revealed Hardy like that given the circumstances, it felt flatter than a pancake. Imagine if they'd held that off and did the drone thing in front of their fans, it would have been insane. Then have it off the air with everybody in the building do the delete thing, that would have been a moment Instead it was naff as fuck.

What choice to they have, though? They've hired the guy and are presumably paying him...the other option would be having him sit around earning a wage for nothing, as they wait for a time that fans are able to watch matches again.

Unfortunately, we just don't know when that will be, and it doesn't seem like it's happening any time soon. 

As far as the show goes, I really enjoyed it. The debuts didn't fall flat for me although Hardy showing up in front of fans in that manner would definitely have been a moment. 

The only complaint I have is more a concern...Jim Ross has underlying health issues, he was right beside the other announcers and was quite happily touching Tazz and acting normal. It seems a bit risky to let that happen, God knows how his body would react to covid-19. 

I'll end on a positive note though, and I don't think I need to expand upon two simple words. They speak for themselves: Sammy Guevara.

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The difference between Dynamite and WWW this week was night and day. Having the hard cam set up to face the entrance, framing it so you could just pretty much see the ring, having some noise from the “audience” at ringside. Jericho on commentary. It just felt like Major league vs Minor league. Sure of course these shows are suffering without a crowd, but this was a much more entertaining 2 hours then any other wrestling this week

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It's been pointed out online that all it takes is one diagnosis for this entire thing to fall apart somewhat.

There's no need for live versions of these anymore. Pretape as far as you can and do as few tapings as possible. Again, it'd be nice if AEW did healthcare if they're going to do this.

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I haven’t seen all of it but from what I did see they did a far better job than WWE. Them both doing shows without crowds further exposed the difference between the products. WWE felt shallower and more one-note than ever, like there was nothing behind the razzmatazz, whereas even in a mostly empty building there were still cute interactions and fun moments to be had in AEW, whether it’s Big Tone having a cheeky bet on the matches, Colt Cabana slapping Kip Sabian or Orange Cassidy sleeping at the commentary desk.

The only problem with the Matt Hardy thing is knowing what a thunderous reaction that would’ve received in front of AEW fans. Still, Matt Hardy back in a company where he can come up with his own stuff? Brilliant.

Fuck yeah Brodie Lee. So happy it was him. Could’ve done without the bush league WWE bashing about old men not understanding his potential or whatever, but still. I’m thrilled. Him being the leader of the Dark Order immediately elevates them.

So yeah, given the circumstances, if you must do a live show, this was not bad at all. Ultimately though, it’s really not necessary and felt like a huge risk having so many people out there at once. This company especially wouldn’t suffer one bit from just doing a two hour promo, interview and vignette-filled show for however long this goes on for. Thankfully, the ambiguous way they kept saying, “the next Dynamite,” rather than, “next week,” suggests they realise this too.

Sammy fucking Guevara though. My word. What a talent. There’s no joy in wrestling right now greater than Chris Jericho constantly trying not to laugh at what a fantastic, hilarious prick Sammy is. He’s like a proud dad. 

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13 minutes ago, Supremo said:

I haven’t seen all of it but from what I did see they did a far better job than WWE. Them both doing shows without crowds further exposed the difference between the products. WWE felt shallower and more one-note than ever, like there was nothing behind the razzmatazz, whereas even in a mostly empty building there were still cute interactions and fun moments to be had in AEW, whether it’s Big Tone having a cheeky bet on the matches, Colt Cabana slapping Kip Sabina or Orange Cassidy sleeping at the commentary desk.

The only problem with the Matt Hardy thing is knowing what a thunderous reaction that would’ve received in front of AEW fans. Still, Matt Hardy back in a company where he can come up with his own stuff? Brilliant.

Fuck yeah Brodie Lee. So happy it was him. Could’ve done without the bush league WWE bashing about old men not understanding his potential or whatever, but still. I’m thrilled. Him being the leader of the Dark Order immediately elevates them.

So yeah, given the circumstances, if you must do a live show, this was not bad at all. Ultimately though, it’s really not necessary and felt like a huge risk having so many people out there at once. This company especially wouldn’t suffer one bit from just doing a two hour promo, interview and vignette-filled show for however long this goes on for. Thankfully, the ambiguous way they kept saying, “the next Dynamite,” rather than, “next week,” suggests they realise this too.

Sammy fucking Guevara though. My word. What a talent. There’s no joy in wrestling right now greater than Chris Jericho constantly trying not to laugh at what a fantastic, hilarious prick Sammy is. He’s like a proud dad. 

I have a feeling they may be taking a break, on the live Dynamite shows at least. They kept saying in reference to future matches on the next Dynamite rather than next week, have they announced anything yet? 

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The bits I saw felt way more lively than Raw and SmackDown. I really hope WWE follows the example of having wrestlers in the seats. So many of the roster don’t need a WrestleMania match, but imagine Big E sitting there reacting to everything! Without watching it all, I can’t really judge how it felt overall, but it seemed like this was the best of the no-audience shows so far.

Harper‘s stuff was a letdown though, and I’m a big fan of him. His robe design looks like Matt Hardy’s (possibly designed purely for the misdirection?), and his gear under that was just awful. The gimmick seems like a Wyatt Family knock-off, and he even threw in the “Vince sux” wank that reminds me of every time an ex-WWE wrestler would turn up in TNA. 

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I’m sure Brodie’s gear was to make people think it was Matt Hardy at first. Similar to what he wears as Broken Matt. I’m just glad we all get to see him wrestle again. 
 

Sammy Guevara singing Judas was great. Such an annoying little prick. I think he’s much easier to hate than MJF. MJF seems like a try hard heel a lot of the time and wants to pop the crowd. Sammy is more subtle in being a dickhead. 

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1 hour ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

The difference between Dynamite and WWW this week was night and day. Having the hard cam set up to face the entrance, framing it so you could just pretty much see the ring, having some noise from the “audience” at ringside. Jericho on commentary. It just felt like Major league vs Minor league. Sure of course these shows are suffering without a crowd, but this was a much more entertaining 2 hours then any other wrestling this week

Major league vs minor league? Nothing about WWE's production is minor league. Let's not exaggerate.

It's obvious that AEW decided to push their storylines etc far more than anything WWE really did on their shows.

More entertaining? Absolutely, but let's not go crazy.

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1 hour ago, RedRooster said:

What choice to they have, though? They've hired the guy and are presumably paying him...the other option would be having him sit around earning a wage for nothing, as they wait for a time that fans are able to watch matches again.

Unfortunately, we just don't know when that will be, and it doesn't seem like it's happening any time soon. 

As far as the show goes, I really enjoyed it. The debuts didn't fall flat for me although Hardy showing up in front of fans in that manner would definitely have been a moment. 

The only complaint I have is more a concern...Jim Ross has underlying health issues, he was right beside the other announcers and was quite happily touching Tazz and acting normal. It seems a bit risky to let that happen, God knows how his body would react to covid-19. 

I'll end on a positive note though, and I don't think I need to expand upon two simple words. They speak for themselves: Sammy Guevara.

Based on that body I wonder how it would react to JR's  body! 

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Forget JR, Jake the Snake was the one that shocked me. The shit he’s put his body through, the health problems he’s had, and they still fly him in? Insane.

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Just watched some AEW clips from last night. The atmosphere was night and day compared to WWE's empty arena shows. WWE can learn from AEW with the presentation for these shows.

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About as good as an empty arena show can be really, great watch but it really is a shame the Hardy bit at the end didn’t have the roof blowing off. Sammy singing Jerichos entrance was great and I loved that segment for Archer battering scrubs in a field. The makeshift crowd of wrestlers all interacting with each other was a great touch. AEW do such a good job at fleshing out the rosters character. 
They could have done without some of the old boys who are most at risk, but I know AEW aren’t putting anyone under pressure to come in (Marko Stunt was missing and Jurassic Express didn’t miss a beat at all.) I imagine Roberts and Ross would only stop going in if they were not allowed to

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8 minutes ago, UK Kat Von D said:

About as good as an empty arena show can be really, great watch but it really is a shame the Hardy bit at the end didn’t have the roof blowing off.

I think I might be alone here, but I thought the lack of crowd noise made the end of the show really effective. That, the piano music, Jericho's stunned face and Hardy's manic behaviour made the situation feel quite tense and dramatic. It really worked for me and, in the moment, made the wrestlers feel like human beings rather than performers. 

A hot crowd clearly lifts a show, but AEW proved last night that a lack of one doesn't have to break it. 

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Aside from Brodie looking like a bootleg Chris Hero that was an excellent show, is PAC stuck over here right now?

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