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Not sure what all the hate is for AEW atm, its a good show and alternative to WWE with some good stars. Enjoy the product and skip what you dont like, at least give it another six months and see before giving up on it completely.

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8 minutes ago, Snitsky's back acne said:

I hear this a lot but other than having wrestlers WWE doesn't have how exactly is it 'alternative'?
Genuine question.

Well it’s three hours a week of easy to watch TV, with a lot less random PPVs like TLC which still doesn’t have any matches announced. They are yet to provide all out disappointing finishes like a HIAC match going to a non finish. They aren’t doing 5 hour PPVs. It’s less micromanaged (for better and worse.) The roster has a clear hierarchy. They have a stronger focus on tag team wrestling. 

There is a lot more different than just the roster. They are very different products with a few of the same problems 

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2 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

I would very much like to hear Luchasaurus talk about Eleanor of Aquitaine please AEW. Thank you.

He’s absolutely brilliant on the mic. I’m not sure if it’s his delivery, his wit, his look or my childhood love of Walking with Dinosaurs but he comes across as being really cool. He’s honestly one of my favourite things in wrestling right now.

On an unrelated note, Cody has replied to someone on Twitter to clarify that Jungle Boy isn’t challenging him for the title, he’s going to prove that he can last 10 minutes with Jericho.

Given that almost every match on Dynamite lasts 14 minutes regardless of who features I reckon he’ll be OK. 

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1 hour ago, UK Kat Von D said:

There is a lot more different than just the roster. They are very different products with a few of the same problems 

Are they though? Is AEW really that different? How much of anything new is AEW really bringing to the table right now?

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Only just watching this weeks show. Imagine my shock at seeing Fenix’s, part of what is presented as one of the best teams in the company, record is only 6-5.

Edited by Ricc1PW

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6 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said:

Are they though? Is AEW really that different? How much of anything new is AEW really bringing to the table right now?

Yes, all the things I listed are different from WWE. Didn’t say it was all new innovations, they didn’t invent tag team wrestling 

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Come off it, lads. I know the bloom is off the rose and a lot of people are down on them, but don't be a dickhead and try and argue that AEW isn't an alternative. Rightly or wrongly, it obviously is. In AEW the wrestlers themselves have far more say in terms of their characters, promos, matches and feuds. The entire show isn't overwritten to death and everyone doesn't end up having the exact same voice on promos, working the exact same style in the ring.

The problem we're discovering is that for as badly as WWE is overwritten and overproduced, with creativity completely stifled by having to go through the filter of Vince's insane brain, AEW is at the other end of the spectrum, completely underwritten and under-produced, with a lot of creative and inexperienced talent needing far, far more direction.

I think @tiger_rick brought it up a few weeks ago but it's clearer now than ever before. The people most likely to succeed in AEW, with the freedoms allowed in that environment, are people who've gone through the WWE system first. It's not a coincidence that Jericho, Dustin, Moxley and Cody are the biggest standouts. WWE has helped them develop all the fundamentals in the ring and on the mic. WWE has given them the ability to carry themselves like a star and work for TV. WWE has taught them how to set themselves apart and get over without breaking their necks day in and day out. And then AEW has given them the freedom to utilise these skills and put their own spin on it without having to spend all day standing outside Vince's office trying to salvage the bollocks scripted for them.

By contrast, the rest of AEW's roster are exposing that working the Independents or Japan is not a sufficient substitute for working WWE. The fundamentals aren't there. The ability to work TV isn't there. The ability to carry yourself like a star isn't there. Everyone is just doing dives and flips and fighting over the same, "let's wear some leather and be a dark cult," gimmick they've obviously fantasised about since they saw the Ministry of Darkness growing up.

What's clear after ten weeks of AEW television (other than that Tony Khan needs to give Cody and Jericho the entire show to book) is that the most exciting prospects going forward will be the Chad Gable, Rusev and Luke Harper types. Those who've been given all the tools by WWE, only to never be allowed to actually use them on Raw or Smackdown. Essentially, the dream scenario from now on will be Independent guys getting signed by WWE, going through NXT for a couple of years, then moving to AEW to actually utilise all that they've learnt. Perhaps if Kenny Omega had done that he wouldn't have booked himself into oblivion and completely killed his star aura dead. Maybe he could've asked Hunter and Shawn how to actually, you know, make something of yourself and build some superstar momentum rather than systematically chip away and self-sabotage until you've gone from biggest free agent in the business to absolutely irrelevant in less than twelve months.

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I watched the first half this week and skimmed through the second half. Nothing particularly off putting about any of it but I really didn't see the point in watching the second hour (maybe a bit less) so skimming through the final two matches was fine. As I said before it seems they are waiting somewhat to get closer to something. With only 2 weeks left before their Christmas break the creative work seems like the work ethic in most offices at this time of year in that it's just going through motions. 

The one thing I noticed which might have been mentioned before was the sound mixing is really off, during the matches the commentators are super loud but the arena is almost muted. It was hard to hear the impact of moves or anyone reaction to them which completely takes me out of it.

Also is there any reason they fiddle with the set week to week. I'm not sure if it's to do with what the arena allows, to keep it fresh of they are still trying to find out what works. I actually liked this weeks set up a lot with the single big screen and the flat walkway from Full Gear

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1 hour ago, LWOLeN said:

That 6-man opener from this week was tremendous. So much fun!

See, that match really annoyed me. In a vacuum, it was a lot of fun, but later in the same show Cody described it as part of a blood feud and yet we still had the Sammy Guevara comedy, the  commentators all giggling about Dustin doing his moves and the finish over contrived and silly. Which would be fine if the other team was scu, or the best friends, or jurassic express, but when it's the blood feud it feels weird. 

 

That feels symptomatic of the whole product, for me. The tone just seems all over the place.

Edited by Duke

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Everyone talking about who AEW should hire next, I'm hoping they hire someone like Norman Smiley and most the roster spend every day of the week doing nothing but fundamentals so that everything that isn't a highspot doesn't look like dog shit.

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Isn't Arn Anderson with them? They could really do with some experienced agents to iron shit out and introduce some heat and psychology to the matches.

I love Jericho but he's skirting the line with the laughs at the minute. I wish there was more intensity there. The Inner Circle don't feel like the dangerous heel group that I hoped they would. Proud and Powerful lean into the comedy too much and the Bucks seem like the last team you want to work with to generate heat and emotion.

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Loved it this week. Storyline progression, backstage promos, cool vignettes. Incredible decision to put Stadtlander over Shida which I'm completely on board with. I actually wouldn't have minded if she joined Brandi and Kong.

Negatives though: Leva Bates needs to be let go. She offers NOTHING. Should absolutely never be on Dynamite at the least, squashed or not.

Also, somebody needs to turn Pentagon into the Lucha Underground version pronto because this version is absolutely fucking shit to be honest. And drop the Zero Miedo bollocks because it's absolute cringe when he does it 75 times a match. It doesn't even mean anything. Of course you're not afraid of Christopher bleeding Daniels!

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