Bohan Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Seratonin said: Genuinely scared of Pentagon JR. Such a strange, intimidating guy, great wrestler too. Dark Order's gimmick is like a Chikara team, minus the charm. Umm they were a Chikara tag team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyUK Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 I enjoyed it for what it was. It was nothing spectacular but Omega/Cima and the three way tag were very good. Young Bucks/Rhodes Brothers wasn’t exciting enough to last as long as it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted July 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Seratonin said: Genuinely scared of Pentagon JR. Such a strange, intimidating guy, great wrestler too. Absolutely. They're wasting money keeping them as a tag team as the Lucha Bros have so much to offer as singles it's insane. If AEW can harness Pentagon's unique charisma it's a licence to print cash. He's a scary bastard you can't help but love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Old School Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I enjoyed it. Loved the unique setting. My only gripe is what people have already said, a few of the matches went on a bit to long. No issues with a long 6 man, or the two tag matches. Page & Omega are (I think) being built as the companys main two baby faces though? At least 20 minutes should have been shaved off each of those matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted July 16, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, The King of Old School said: Page & Omega are (I think) being built as the companys main two baby faces though? At least 20 minutes should have been shaved off each of those matches. Wasn't Page vs Sabian 19 minutes (as per the story they were telling)? So you wanted it to be minus 1 minutes long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 They love packing these shows with tag matches, are they doing it just to get everyone on the show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King of Old School Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, mim731 said: Wasn't Page vs Sabian 19 minutes (as per the story they were telling)? So you wanted it to be minus 1 minutes long? Yes. Establish him as the top guy... No, of course not. I meant 10 minutes of each match, but I suspect you knew that. Edited July 16, 2019 by The King of Old School Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted July 16, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, The King of Old School said: Yes. Establish him as the top guy... No, of course not. I meant 10 minutes of each match, but I suspect you knew that. It's possible I was being somewhat facetious. I do know what you mean though, both matches were longer than necessary, especially Page and Sabian which would have benefited from being a tad shorter. On the six man tag, one thing that stood out massively is how much bigger Shawn Spears looked than everyone else. I can't tell if he's bulked up since leaving WWE, or if everyone else in that match is just quite small (excluding Allin who is clearly smaller than everyone). He seemed a very average size in WWE. I think they would definitely benefit from having a few bigger lads in there for variety as beyond Spears, Luchasaurus (who doesn't exactly wrestle like a traditional big man) and I guess Dustin, they are a little light on bigger guys. Not saying they need to be dominated by a heavyweight main event style, but it all feels quite flip-and-foot-stomp-heavy at the moment. A Jeff Cobb or a Ryback-type would make a nice addition if they could get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted July 16, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, TildeGuy~! said: They love packing these shows with tag matches, are they doing it just to get everyone on the show? Various reasons I'd imagine. There's definitely an element of wanting to present as many people as possible. But they also have a tag team in a prominent managerial position and they want to establish tag wrestling as a big deal on this brand. Plus 6-man/8-man tags protect singles guys from losses and burnout so are always a sensible option. I thought it was a good blend on the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, mim731 said: Wasn't Page vs Sabian 19 minutes (as per the story they were telling)? So you wanted it to be minus 1 minutes long? I have no objections to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted July 16, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 16, 2019 I'd hazard a guess that they want to establish early on that they're a big wrestling company, and a good way to establish this is a visual of the sheer depth of the roster. A bit like the old Royal Rumble posters - if it looks to the fans like there's an army of guys out there competing in AEW, then winning matches, being a main-eventer, and winning the belts will look a bigger deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snitsky's back acne Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 hours ago, The King of Old School said: My only gripe is what people have already said, a few of the matches went on a bit to long. Page & Omega are (I think) being built as the companys main two baby faces though? At least 20 minutes should have been shaved off each of those matches. Cody referenced that in the post show press conference, in response to the show being nearly 5 hours long on a sweltering hot day in Florida, essentially saying he wanted to let everyone have time to 'do their thing'. Yeah, again, that's fine for big shows [although not, as well - see WrestleMania] but for TV they will have to reign that in. WWE has shown that people tune out for long matches, no matter how good. If you're buying a show you're already going to watch but engaging people on TV is different. I'm not saying they need the Russo 'something happening every 90 seconds' philosophy but they cannot just 'let guys do their thing' as it regards to match/segment length on a TV show. I'm sure [well I hope] they know this but it does again seem like Omega and the Bucks are the kind of 'I need time to perform my art' kinda guys that would not do well in a 'You have 5 minutes' kind of setting. I guess we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted July 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 Finished watching this last night, and I think pacing the show out over a few nights really helped. There's definitely a LOT in them. Generally, I thought it was pretty solid. Better than Fyterfest, for sure. Particularly enjoyed the triple-threat tag and the Lucha Bros/SCU matches. Brandi may not be a wrestler, but the stuff with the Kongs was great. Totally agree with others in reducing repetition and shortening some of the matches. And Alex Marvez really is a bit crap. Particularly liked when the Lucha Bros did the ladder promo (which was bad-ass), and they came back to commentary, and he immediately makes a nerdy point about the ladder being white and gold, so JR just goes 'Yeah, great, so anyway' and turns his back on him to talk to the other commentator. It just summed him up - ignoring the important thing that just happened to make a smug, annoying point. When they shook hands at the end, it made me think that I really want to see Kenny Omega vs Dustin Rhodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paid Members tiger_rick Posted July 18, 2019 Author Paid Members Share Posted July 18, 2019 That content is absolutely not suitable for a kid who believes in Santa. On the last one, they showed Cody's head wound close up and the language isn't appropriate either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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