Pinc Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Has anyone pointed out that Philip Lee is the 1 in 21 and 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factotum Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Yup, I like Corbyn on a lot of things, but if he stepped aside for Starmer, Labour could genuinely win that election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 We need an election now, you can't have a government with a -40 odd majority. Thing is, I reckon the Tories will win a small majority if they call one now, and they'll have purged the last of the traditional Tories from the party and become a purely hard right party. So that sounds like an even worse place to be. If only Corbyn wasn't so politically toxic. Â Labour should be able to walk an election victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 Is this even possible? Can a party have 2 leaders and so if elected co PM's? I only ask this because, as Loki said, Corbyn wouldn't win a GE, but he also would not stand down, but if he could co PM with another labor MP I could see that getting more support. I assume it isn't possible and it is just a stupid idea, but I didn't know if it was an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) The Liberal Democrats had David Steel and David Owen as co-leaders, but obviously they never got close to being PM so I'm not sure what would have happened if they had. Edited September 4, 2019 by gmoney Lib Dems, not the liberals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted September 4, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 4, 2019 Yeah. Greens had or have co-leaders also. But again that question isn't likely to come up for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 Thanks for that gents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 If one of them was Corbyn, you've got the same problem. A lot of people, many who'd be Labour targets, believe the stories about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Labour need to get Gerard Houllier in as co leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 Twice BoJo was asked to apologize for making racist remarks, both times he deflected it to antisemitism in the Labour party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Factotum said: Yup, I like Corbyn on a lot of things, but if he stepped aside for Starmer, Labour could genuinely win that election Half agree. Starmer's not bad, but I'd rather either Clive Lewis, Angela Rayner, or Rebecca Long-Bailey. From the outside, maybe even David Lammy. Don't 100% trust him following his Blair years, but he's woken up a bit now, and he's a pretty good public speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 Reportedly Labour have now decided they won't back an election until not only has the no-no-deal bill been passed and become law (likely next week) but until it's actually carried out (ie we've hit October 19 and Johnson's either passed a deal or asked for an extension.) If they stick to that, Johnson's options become: * Pass a no-confidence motion in his own government * Write a one-line law to override the Fixed Term Parliament Act and call an election for a set date (only needs a simple majority, though this law would probably be amended) * Get a deal (lol) * Ask for an extension and get fucked by the Brexit Party in the election * Refuse to follow the law and see what people do about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, JNLister said: Reportedly Labour have now decided they won't back an election until not only has the no-no-deal bill been passed and become law (likely next week) but until it's actually carried out (ie we've hit October 19 and Johnson's either passed a deal or asked for an extension.) If they stick to that, Johnson's options become: * Pass a no-confidence motion in his own government * Write a one-line law to override the Fixed Term Parliament Act and call an election for a set date (only needs a simple majority, though this law would probably be amended) * Get a deal (lol) * Ask for an extension and get fucked by the Brexit Party in the election * Refuse to follow the law and see what people do about it Please be the last one. I think it's time we turn England into a Mad Max style frontier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factotum Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I'm fully up for Labour playing political shit games to fuck that clown. Too long have the Tories done that to cling onto power or avoid controversy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted September 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted September 4, 2019 Makes sense. Take advantage of the state of the government's no majority. What's the situation with the DUP at the moment? You've got to think they'd be tempted to stick the boot in a bit more, especially if there's going to be shenanigans with regards to the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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