AVM Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Rhyno in late 2000-early 2001 was so impressive in ECW. Wish he came into WWE with similar intensity. I personally believe he was a real missed opportunity. Huge fan of his work in ECW. Test also had an awesome look. I wonder how he’d have done with a big push. Mohammed Hassan another one, but I can see why they called that one off! Otherwise the usual suspects - Bulldog, Roddy, Perfect. Ted Dibiase etc. Loads of guys from that era that would have won the belt thirty years later when titles were being passed around more freely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRooster Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 A face palming key obvious choice (for me, at least) - Chris Masters. Granted, he wasn’t the best during his initial run with WWE. When he returned in the late 2000s, however, he was an absolute boss in ring. I’ve no idea why they didn’t push him. He had solid mic skills, a decent look and was tearing it up on the B shows each week with some brilliant matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Kennedy Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Muhammad Hassan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkchopcash Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 The Red Rooster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecian Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 If you don't count the TNA World Title and are talking WWE only, I'd add Drew Mcintyre. I thought he was nailed on to win MITB at Mania 26 that went to Swagger then he just dropped down the card until he was released. Since returning, he looks like a beast, works at the top end of the card but I can't remember him having many one-on-one world title matches. Before Kofi-Mania started, I wanted Rollins to go for Bryan at Mania after winning the Rumble, Drew vs Brock on the Raw side would have been a new match, two massive guys clobbering each other, and I'd buy Drew beating him too. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeRobertsParoleOfficer Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Andre, maybe.... Though he was more of an attraction enough without it. In the 80s its virtually impossible to list anyone not named Hogan, savage or warrior is it. As has been said no one was getting a look in there. Nowadays anyone from that era would be a multi time world champion.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theringmaster Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) On ‎6‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 10:31 AM, wandshogun09 said: I guess it depends on the timing. If we’re going on the ‘came along at a different time’ line of thinking then I have no doubt the likes of Perfect, Owen, Dibiase, Arn Anderson, Davey Boy etc would’ve got a turn with a version of a world title at some point. But in the eras they were actually in though, it just wasn’t going to happen. Perfect and Dibiase were never getting a sniff of a title run in the Hogan, Savage, Warrior era. Arn wasn’t ever getting a look in when Flair was around. And there were always better options than Owen or Davey in both the New Generation and Attitude eras. Same with Shamrock. Val is probably a bit of a stretch (no porn pun intended) in any era. He was pretty good but he was likely midcard for life no matter what gimmick he got. Curt Henning was AWA World Champ  Edited June 17, 2019 by theringmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PJ Power Posted June 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted June 17, 2019 Val Venis, even during the highest excess of the Attitude Era, would never have been even given a realistic sniff of challenging for the World Championship belt simply because of his gimmick. Having a wrestler whom had a second job as a porn actor, either holding the belt or challenging for it at one of the "big five" PPVs would never happen there. It might have been possible if Val Venis been in the original ECW, Russo would probably have gone for it in WCW if "Standards and Practices" wouldn't have veto'd it straight away, and even when being on the booking committee in the WWF I doubt he'd have openly suggested it despite some of the suggestions he was reported to come out with. The last thing Vince McMahon would have wanted, having turned a corner after poor business in the New Generation era, would have been to push its ECW-lite-with-big-lights image too far, risking sponsorships and even further wrath from the likes of the PTC, politicians etc. They would have gained nothing from it. So because of this, Venis would never have been higher up than being a solid mid-carder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinc Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, PJ Power said: The last thing Vince McMahon would have wanted, having turned a corner after poor business in the New Generation era, would have been to push its ECW-lite-with-big-lights image too far, risking sponsorships and even further wrath from the likes of the PTC, politicians etc. Yes he was always careful never to do anything that might antagonise them on screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PJ Power Posted June 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Pinc said: Yes he was always careful never to do anything that might antagonise them on screen. While he did do that, there's a difference between ripping the piss out of them and giving them fodder to make them look like a lot less of a bunch of religious kooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I always wondered why WWF brought Dusty Rhodes in for thar run in 1989 and then did nothing with him. Â With his pedigree he could have been a world champion there surely, as Flair was a year or two later? Â It's not like he couldn't still wrestle a Dusty match, he was still wrestling them in TNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted June 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted June 17, 2019 I think that for Vince, the cost of paying Dusty was worth it in order to take the piss out of him. Dust had the last laugh though as he got those Polka dots over like rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted June 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted June 17, 2019 [nerd] Val Venis, then known as Steele, was the reigning CMLL World Heavyweight Champion when he signed for WWF. [/nerd] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted June 17, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted June 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, WeeAl said: I think that for Vince, the cost of paying Dusty was worth it in order to take the piss out of him. Dust had the last laugh though as he got those Polka dots over like rover.  49 minutes ago, Loki said: I always wondered why WWF brought Dusty Rhodes in for thar run in 1989 and then did nothing with him.  With his pedigree he could have been a world champion there surely, as Flair was a year or two later?  It's not like he couldn't still wrestle a Dusty match, he was still wrestling them in TNA. Vince didn't really want Dusty and Dusty didn't want to be there from day 1 was my understanding. Dusty took the piss bleeding after Turner brass told him not to after they took over as he thought he was untouchable and got let go. Dusty had to eat humble pie and Vince got to show the world one of the biggest stars of JCP was just a mid carder in his mighty WWF as hogan ran wild. The difference with flair was he needed something or some else by then. It was only a couple of years on but 89 and 92 were world's apart when it came to PR and hogan's standing. Vince couldn't afford to fuck about with flair. Even then he never 100% committed to him, pulling the hogan flair showdown and putting him on midway through mania 8. But then Vince hated that rumble 92 promo from ric, the odd bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRooster Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, PJ Power said: Val Venis, even during the highest excess of the Attitude Era, would never have been even given a realistic sniff of challenging for the World Championship belt simply because of his gimmick. Having a wrestler whom had a second job as a porn actor, either holding the belt or challenging for it at one of the "big five" PPVs would never happen there. It might have been possible if Val Venis been in the original ECW, Russo would probably have gone for it in WCW if "Standards and Practices" wouldn't have veto'd it straight away, and even when being on the booking committee in the WWF I doubt he'd have openly suggested it despite some of the suggestions he was reported to come out with. The last thing Vince McMahon would have wanted, having turned a corner after poor business in the New Generation era, would have been to push its ECW-lite-with-big-lights image too far, risking sponsorships and even further wrath from the likes of the PTC, politicians etc. They would have gained nothing from it. So because of this, Venis would never have been higher up than being a solid mid-carder. But that’s the point of this thread: What undercard/mid card wrestlers  do you think could have been a world champion had they been given a different gimmick, been less of an awkward tit, or come along at a different time? I’m talking about lower card/mid-card wrestlers who could have been more had they been introduced differently. People who weren’t anywhere close to the top of the card, basically as opposed to those who were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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