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Bruce Prichard's been using it for years on his podcast when doing impressions of Vince McMahon.

Just watched the FFFH segment.  If I'd watched that at 3am and then gone to sleep I would have woken up this morning convinced it was a dream.

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I really didn’t enjoy the Firefly Funhouse shit. The Last Man standing match that went on for an hour had properly killed my enjoyment by that point. Cena was just far too cheese for me to take it even remotely serious. I know being a big goon is his thing, I don’t like it though 

Also, I’ve just remembered the Benoit spot where Randy was trying to hang Edge on the gym equipment. What the fuck was that about? 

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Yeah hanging him for gym equipment. They've had this in the can for days, you'd think someone would have removed that one. Fresh off the Dark Side of the Ring airing as well, so its been a talking point recently.

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That Boneyard match was a really well made piece of cinema. It'd be good for Taker to go out on something like that. Loved that he managed to be the American Badass again. 

Started watching night 2. Thought Charlotte would have put Rhea Ripley over, but the match told a good story. I'm (bring back down votes) intrigued to see how the Big Show's sitcom turns out. I'll watch more later. 

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15 hours ago, UK Kat Von D said:

Right, just dropped a bit of LSD. Got some beers, couple gram, bottle of rum, Xannax and some DMT just in case. I am determined to enjoy Wrestlemania one way or another.

 

13 minutes ago, UK Kat Von D said:

I really didn’t enjoy the Firefly Funhouse shit.

 

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10 minutes ago, jazzygeofferz said:

That Boneyard match was a really well made piece of cinema. It'd be good for Taker to go out on something like that. Loved that he managed to be the American Badass again. 

Personally I think there are enough ways to protect the Undertaker, be it tag matches etc, I'd rather his swansong took place in front of an audience at least.

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Nothing in The Firefly Funhouse match lived up to its utterly mental set up with The Fiend pointing at the Wrestlemania sign and Cena doffing his cap, but I loved it and thought it totally delivered in telling the story of Wyatt through the weird and wacky Funhouse vision. So many cool and surprising bits scattered in there and its always refreshing to see them pull from their own history vaults. Sure, it was all a bit smarky insider, but they were creative and fun as hell with it and we're the only fuckers left watching this stuff anyway. A welcome reminder of what a unique star Bray Wyatt can be when he's not wrestling and John Cena is just the best. Both a lovely, silly, tribute to the career of one of the all time greats and a nice shot in the arm for Wyatt. There's always a risk of overdoing anything good, but there might be just enough history there if they wanna do something similar for whenever Bray vs Braun happens. 

Good on all the guys for putting a shift in through all of this and the Boneyard and Funhouse matches alone made Mania better than I thought it'd be. Holy fucking shit though, that LMS was an absolute war crime. That was everything I dreaded a Orton/Edge match could be and then some. "Sorry, I love you", forced WWE melodrama at its dirt fucking worst with Edge at his most unbearable. Even skipping through it this thing never ends. And, my God, Tom Phillips might take the mantle as the shittiest commentator in history with this one. Why does he sound like he's calling the snooker? And don't get me started on the endless grunting, groaning and gagging during all of this. That was . . . distracting at the very best. I can't imagine what kind of torture porn Ciampa and Gargano have conjured up for their one. 

Ripley vs Charlotte suffered from similar main event EPIC-style grunting and laying about and had the kind of story that dies in this environment. Great match in itself though. Charlotte delivered and Ripley looked like a future star again. Otis/ Dolph was perfectly fine for what it was and had the nice feel good ending. Drew/Brock was a bummer for all manner of reasons and felt especially dry following the Funhouse match. Good for Drew I guess but this was proper lose/lose for the poor bugger. 

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13 minutes ago, garynysmon said:

Personally I think there are enough ways to protect the Undertaker, be it tag matches etc, I'd rather his swansong took place in front of an audience at least.

He absolutely deserves to go out in a big match in front of a big crowd, but the Boneyard Match would the way to do it for me now that I've seen it. 

We've seen so many times over the last few years that 'Taker can stink it up in the ring if the opponent or circumstances aren't right. This time he got to look like an absolute badass, had a 'match' that fans loved and got to ride off into the sunset at the end of it. Or sunrise, even. 

Have this be the last one and then do what people have suggested for a while: put him in the Hall of Fame next year and have him be the only entrant. Get people from his career to speak about him and honour him and then have Vince be the one to finally induct him on the night. 

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I think the Firefly Fun House is genuinely one of the strangest bits of telly ever broadcast.

A dream sequence featuring awkward re-enactments of moments from the on-screen life of WWE superstar John Cena, with numerous references that could only make sense to extremely hardcore wrestling fans, that's supposed to exist in the same universe as ultra-legit athlete Brock Lesnar's super serious title defence moments later. I watched Lesnar/McIntyre in a complete daze because my suspension of disbelief was so broken. I couldn't think of anything other than - why are these men pretending to fight eachother? Why don't they make a film together instead like the last pair?

I am completely floored that anyone would broadcast something so self-referential. I can't think of any other examples in any media. It was proper meta-meta-meta camera turned in on itself post modern madness, but with... John Cena's wrestling career as the subject matter? Why does it exist?

It's not so much that I wasn't entertained, as it made me never want to watch wrestling or any other form of fiction ever again. Six stars from me.

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I've kept thinking about that match all afternoon, and I don't know how much of it was actually that meta?

It started with a young impressionable rookie trying to get ahead.

Then we got the smart-mouthed bully whose promo gimmick was talking in rhymes.

Becoming The Man with the gimmick selling a ton of merch, a superhero good guy.

Then a what-if scenario of what could have happened if John had given in to the dark side (that Bray insists he has, despite Cena never going there), with the NWO symbolising him becoming the enemy of WWE, Cena's whole 'universe'.

Intercut with a sequence where gym superman and super-recoverer Cena trains so hard he can't physically fight any more.

The wink-wink stuff was in the details not the story, I think.

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Just finished Night 2, it was good just not as good as Saturday, overall I’d give it a 7 or 8/10

The Good

Boneyard Match

Firefly Funhouse ‚Äėmatch‚Äô

SD Ladder match

Rhea v Charlotte

Rollins v Owens

Lynch v Baszler

Otis getting the girl

Drew winning the big one

The OK

Street Profits v Garza/Theory

Black v Lashley

Zayn v Bryan

Women’s Tag Title match

Gulak v Cesaro (Day 1 Preshow)

The Bad

Both world title matches being finisher fests and 5 mins or less

SD Women’s Title match

Edge v Orton (should never have gone 36 mins)

Liv v Natalya (Day 2 Preshow)

Elias v Corbin

The 24/7 title bollocks with Mojo, Truth and Gronk

Otis v Ziggler (before the moment with Mandy)

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HATED the FFH 'match'. Loved the Boneyard stuff as it at least resembled a fight but FFH was just a series of lame skits. Only thing I liked was 'It's such good shit'. Apart from that, HATED it with a passion. If THAT is what WWE are planning on doing more of going forward, then count me out. 

Agree with the comment you could feel the groan from the non-existent fans when Charlotte won. 

I actually didnt mind the Last Man Standing - although I did have it on as background while I was doing other stuff so didn't really watch it intently.
I was shocked they did the choking spot with the weight machine though. Had there not been all the recent publicity surrounding Benoit again it might just have been acceptable in a 'It was 13 year ago' kind of way [and I emphasise 'might'] but it was just uncomfortable. 

Also, yes, put Mania on over 2 nights! It's way more tolerable. 

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When I came here on Sunday morning, I held off posting about how much I hated the Boneyard match because I didn't want to be a black cloud when everyone seemed so positive. To me, though, it felt like the epitome of why we're sometimes embarrassed to be wrestling fans. If someone who doesn't like wrestling caught me watching that, I'd be mortified. So I watched it and it filled me with dread for what the Firefly Funhouse match would be. What a hugely pleasant surprise that was though.

On paper, it's a lot of things I hate in seeing in wrestling. Supernatural nonsense drives me nuts. When Undertaker showed up behind AJ on the digger just 24 hours earlier, it annoyed the living shit out of me. But this was just so wildly ambitious and meta and crazy and different. It was like they hired David Lynch to produce the segment. And I think it felt okay because it was so detached from normal wrestling. Obviously wrestling requires a lot of suspension of disbelief, but there's a certain framework we base that on and a limit to how much it can be stretched. Undertaker and AJ are fake fighting fighting in a graveyard? I'll allow it. Undertaker magically teleports? A bit far for me. The Funhouse match, though, just wasn't a wrestling match at all. It was a vignette. And as insane and weird as it was, I can see a way out of it where they just act as if it was an effective promo; Bray Wyatt making a convincing case against John Cena, causing a bit of a dark night of the soul moment for John and leading to another, more typical match. That's somehow easier for me to square than The Undertaker winning a fight using magic and burying AJ alive. Who knows though? Different strokes for different folks and all that. Either way, it was an unexpected and unusual delight.

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