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Wrestlemania 36- Tampa Bay Bay

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What a strange weekend. Clearly this either does something for your self isolation woes or it doesn't. Whilst the latter is more than understandable, I'd count myself in the former. With that in mind, I just don't have it in me to shit on anything they've done here. I'm glad it happened and had heaps of weird fun watching Goldberg, the Boneyard, the Funhouse and even Edge/Orton - which whilst way too long I thought was physical as hell and a good clean edit counterpoint to the wacky matches. Orton matches are boring and Edge's always been a gimmick guy anyway so both of them done well, considering. An in ring between them at 'Mania probably could have died on its arse way more. 

I was prepared for the lack of crowd, what I wan't prepared for was how ordinary everything else was. That's the only real disappointment from this, for me. WWE have a universe to play around with and plenty they can do with their production even with a dozen people on the floor. I'm genuinely surprised they didn't get it together to have the sort of dead clever stuff I know they could probably do but am too unimaginative to suggest myself. I wasn't joking when I said in the Discord chat I was half expecting a sort of semi holograph pirate ship for the entrance stage. Loads of different smoke and light atmospheres. A different tone for each match. Video inserts in between all the matches featuring isolation skits, stars from the past cutting promos telling you to wash your hands. Where the fuck was that? A little motivational satellite feed from nutty Uncle Vince just to make it feel important through their own self importance. That's the most obvious shit ever to pull on a show like this. So much they could have done without breaking a sweat. 

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1 hour ago, Devon Malcolm said:

There's a theory going round that different people like different things.

Very true Malcolm. I had just expected to go online and be met with a lot of negativity because it was so out of the box, instead it was the opposite.

HHH hinted on ESPN last week that the WWE did some stuff over Mania weekend that they'll probably continue doing going forward, im guessing he referencing the Boneyard and Fun House matches so chances are there'll be more of it.

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I loved the Boneyard on Night 1 but didn't care for the Funhouse in the slightest! I appreciated how mad and unpredictable the whole thing was, but that wasn't for me at all.

I had it on in the background so probably tuned out some of the boring parts but I actually quite enjoyed the Orton-Edge match even if it was an hour longer than it should have been. I compared Braun-Goldberg to a SmackDown finisher spam game - well, this was the Falls Count Anywhere on SmackDown 2 where you went into the kitchen and the dressing room and half the fun was deciding which backstage area to go to next. And for that, I liked it.

Everything else, yes, it was fine but it could all have been so much better had people been there. The opening moments of Drew-Lesnar, Otis getting the girl, all I could do was imagine the reactions they might have got. Such a shame for the performers not to get that.

I could still hear the groan of deflation from the non-audience when Charlotte won though.

Overall, that was a weird WrestleMania. I wonder what their angle will be on it with how they talk about it in the future.

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1 minute ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

Overall, that was a weird WrestleMania. I wonder what their angle will be on it with how they talk about it in the future.

It won't focus on the performers as such, there'll be a ton of WWE patting themselves on the back as a company, pushing forward and putting smiles on faces during the pandemic. Oh, and Stephanie will take full credit for the concept, cinematography and fight scene coordination of the Boneyard and Funhouse matches. Unless people turn on those matches, then it was all Heyman.

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Pretty much a one match show, this. Outside of Otis goofing it up, there was absolutely nothing of note; incredibly dull. Even Drew's big win felt like a paint-by-numbers 'Lesnar is putting a big lad over' match - they also pretty much did the same match with Goldberg.

The Funhouse match, while definitely a level below the Oscar-nominated Boneyard Match, was indeed "such good shit". Fair play to Big Match John, I think he only took one bump for his big 'Mania payday. I've never enjoyed dream/nightmare sequences in films or telly shows, but at least you got a few laughs out of this. Ruthless Aggression Cena and NWO Cena were incredible - for those wondering why NWO, I thought that was to do with Cena trying to cave Bray's skull in with the chair, so in this nightmare this was Cena turning heel.

As much as the Funhouse was a laugh, it couldn't possibly save the rest of this show. Bore after bore. I got a lot of work done during Orton v Edge, which says a lot.

Still, Scotland are world champions.

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21 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

Overall, that was a weird WrestleMania. I wonder what their angle will be on it with how they talk about it in the future.

I doubt it'll ever feature heavily in video packages etc, but it'll definitely be referred back to as WWE being the last bastion of entertainment pulling the nation - nay, the world - up by its bootstraps in its darkest hour. Akin to how they talk about that first Smackdown after 9/11.

Agreed with @Gay as FOOK that they did disappointingly little production wise on the 'normal' stuff. I actually think they used those augmented reality graphics less often than they do on a typical episode of Smackdown. Guessing they were kind of limited by who they could get to work on stuff, but there are so many things I've seen in theatre/movies that they could have nicked in different circumstances. Probably got some "back to basics" edict from Vince, too.

 

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Typo.

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I personally didn't 'get' the FFH match at all. Didn't work for me. Loved the boneyard match though. A bit more structure though I understand the story of FFH it didn't work for me. 

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1 hour ago, tiger_rick said:

I had to go watch the Funhouse in full after reading the reviews. One of the strangest things I've ever seen. It was well done, don't get me wrong, but couldn't be any further from what wrestling is supposed to be. So for that reason, I don't love it but it definitely has its moment.

Agreed. But as someone who thought that Jake Roberts tempting the Ultimate Warrior into a snake pit almost 30 years ago was a bit too hokey for my tastes, I was certainly never going to enjoy something like this.

That said, I don't watch the weekly TV so had no idea of most storylines going in, but I found the Mandy Rose/Dolph Ziggler storyline with that big fella to be quite charming. Was quite reminiscent of a midcard storyline during the Attitude era (only that back then she'd have ended up lezzing it off with the brunette or something.)

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The super disappointing Edge vs. Orton match is even worse now I’ve seen the Edge documentary on the Network, which is one of the best things they’ve ever produced. An amazing feel-good story that leaves you thrilled that Esge is back and super excited to see what’s next. And then he has an absolute stinker that goes on forever.

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25 minutes ago, garynysmon said:

That said, I don't watch the weekly TV so had no idea of most storylines going in, but I found the Mandy Rose/Dolph Ziggler storyline with that big fella to be quite charming.

That's one of the parts of the show I imagine would have been great with a crowd. Personally, I loved it until the minute Ziggler got involved and I've take no notice of it since.

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Just now, Mr Kennedy said:

What was the reference behind Vince’s ‘this is such good shit’ line?

It's a Vince line according to Dean Ambrose's interviews he did after leaving the company. Quite funny of them to use it and own it.

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I massively preferred the Funhouse match to the Boneyard. Styles-Taker was obviously much 'straighter' wrestling, despite the supernatural shenanigans, but nothing gave me chills like Bray's psychological dismantling of the John Cena legend.

Just an unrelenting assault on the on-screen character with some personal but not-too-smarky digs to really grind him down. Fair fucking fucks to Big Match John for selling the absolute fuck out of everything as he was puppeted through a bizarro-world nightmare version of his whole career.

I got goosebumps when Bray knelt there, waiting for the chairshot-that-never-was, and actually WELLED UP when NWO John realised he was beating the crap out of Huskus.

I don't know if I want to see this on a wider scale, but I really wish they could apply even close to this level of out-and-out character work in their matches rather than seemingly saving that for entrances and promos while having nothing but 'move tennis' between the ropes.

Genuinely my favourite 'match' of the weekend.

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