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Up watching the BT highlights for some reason. Balor had a decent little promo/segment backstage where he said who his family are compared to Reigns, how he should never have made it this far but he has cos of the fire inside him and who Roman will face at Extreme Rules (The Demon) has even hotter fires burning inside him. Twas a grand little segment with Finn looking cool in his leather jacket, which was then ruined by them badly CGI'ing the demon face onto Balor to wrap it up. Just needlessly over produced shite.

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The card for Extreme Rules this evening is further evidence of WWE's problems as the winners of each bout are pretty much nailed on. Consequently, there's zero interest/buzz around the product and you don't miss much if you watch it or not. 

One of the folks at work compared the WWE to the Australian day time soap 'Neighbours' as you can tune out for a week's at a time, tune back in and it's the same general plodding storyline for storyline sake. 

AEW has been brilliant for the unpredictability and the fact that their story arcs cover months at a time so you need to tune in regularly to keep a handle on things. 

WWE have telegraphed the result of the Reigns/Demon match by booking Lesnar/Reigns for the title in October.

Damien Priest is retaining the belt via pinfall on Jeff Hardy. 

As great as Reigns and smackdown has been over the last wee while, outside of Reigns there are no other stars, no other potential challengers that we've seen develop over 12-18 months and no "big names" due to sign for them. 

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They've booked the Reigns/Lesnar match but the narrative has been the title is on the line only if Reigns beats Balor and tbh they don't really need the title to sell the match, let Finn have the run he never got with the Universal belt through to the December PPV or the Rumble and put the belt back on Reigns to do the inevitable Rock match at Mania

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It’ll always be incredible how they somehow managed to water down the draft to the point where it lost all sense of excitement or interest. Remember the buzz it used to have? Feels like forever ago. And yet they still promote it as if it’s some crazy, mad event. “The wait is over! The time is now! Here are Sonya and Adam to calmly read some names, most of which are people just staying on the show they’re already on.”

Overall not a bad show though. Whilst the quality might vary, all main roster shows have had a completely different energy and a very obvious attempt to at least try different things ever since AEW caught fire. Everything feels tighter and as if some proper effort has gone into it. That Seth Rollins thing was the perfect example. Eight weeks ago he would have threatened to go to Edge’s house without actually doing it. They’d lazily talk about it but then just do another seventeen minute tag match instead. It was great that they actually delivered!

Not that Seth had the chops to carry such a segment, mind. It was a great idea, with loads of potential, it should’ve been proper creepy and horrible, but Seth ruined it by being Seth. I’d love to know when he decided endlessly cackling constituted being a good heel. Kevin Dunn trying to help his performance by randomly pressing the massive, “BOO!” button didn’t help, either. Almost no reaction at all, then this ridiculous, massive, thunderous, “BOOOOOOO!” when Seth sips some orange juice. Hilarious.

Brock remains the best. Everything he does is amazing. It’s a shame Roman vs. Brock is happening on a weird non-canon blood money show because there’s magic in them facing off with this new dynamic. Smiley babyface Brock who still murders everyone has the potential to be the greatest babyface in forever. I wonder if they’ll eventually do the double turn? You can hear the crowd are ready to cheer Roman. It must be tempting for them to finally get what they’ve always wanted.

I hope they do the right thing and let Xavier Woods win King of the Ring. Not only is he always talking about how much he loves it, but he’d be one of the few people who I think could make the gimmick work no matter what.

Kevin Owens is a man who’s handed his notice in, isn’t he? Real Dean-Ambrose-at-the-end energy. He’ll probably lose to Nia Jax within weeks. January is going to be wild when he jumps.

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The most heelish thing Seth did in Edge’s home was live the fridge door open for far too long. Disgusting. Nice to see Beth cares so much about Smackdown and her husband that she decides to do the Friday Big Shop during it. Edge also reacting like Michael Myers was in the house and not someone Beth Phoenix could have probably taken out herself shows me why Edge never got above direct to dvd films. Ouch.

Other then Brock being amazing and having the scariest wink in the world, everything else was very meh.

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You can always rely on a Draft episode… Kofi is now three wins ahead after an eight man tag that looks remarkably similar to an eight man tag that happened a year ago.

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Kofi Kingston 32-29 Dolph Ziggler

(7 additional non-finishes)

 

DOLPH ZIGGLER VS. KOFI KINGSTON: THE COMPLETE SAGA

 

(according to Online World Of Wrestling)

 

 

 

1. October 2, 2009 – A Decade of SmackDown: Mike “The Miz” Mizanin and Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston and John Morrison.

 

2. November 23, 2009 – RAW: Kofi Kingston (RAW) defeated Dolph Ziggler (SmackDown) in a Breakthrough Battle Royal Qualifier

 

3. March 26, 2010 – WWE SmackDown: SmackDown w/ Dolph defeated RAW w/ Kofi in a Money in the Bank Preview 10-Man Tag Team Match

 

4. March 28, 2010 – WrestleMania 26: Jack Swagger won the 10-Man Money in the Bank Ladder match to earn a title shot any time

 

5. May 7, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in an Intercontinental Title Tournament Semi-Final Match.

 

6. June 25, 2010 – SmackDown: Christian and MVP and Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler and Vance Archer and Curt Hawkins.

 

7. July 2, 2010 – SmackDown: WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero.

 

8. July 18, 2010 – Money in the Bank: Kane won the SD! Money in the Bank Ladder match to earn a World Heavyweight title match.

 

9. July 23, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston in a Non-title match

 

10. July 30, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston by disqualification

 

11. August 6, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated Kofi Kingston to win the WWE Intercontinental title

 

12. August 15, 2010 – SummerSlam: WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero vs. Kofi Kingston ended in a No Contest

 

13. August 20, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler by disqualification when Vickie Guerrero pushed Kofi off the top rope

 

14. August 27, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero by countout

 

15. September 10, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Chris Masters defeated Dolph Ziggler and Chavo Guerrero (w/Vickie and Kaitlyn)

 

16. September 19, 2010 – Night of Champions: Dolph Ziggler (w/Vickie Guerrero and Kaitlyn) defeated Kori Kingston to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

 

17. December 13, 2010 – The Slammy Awards: Kofi Kingston and Daniel Bryan defeated Dolph Ziggler (w/Vickie) and Ted DiBiase (w/Maryse)

 

18. December 10, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler by disqualification after interference by Jack Swagger

 

19. December 17, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Kaval defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero

 

20. December 18, 2010 – WWE Tribute to the Troops: Kofi Kingston and The Big Show defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler

 

21. December 19, 2010 – TLC PPV: Dolph Ziggler beat Kofi Kingston and Jack Swagger in a 3-WAY Ladder Match to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

 

22. December 31, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero beat Kofi Kingston and Jack Swagger in a 3-WAY to retain the Intercontinental title

 

23. January 7, 2011 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero to win the WWE Intercontinental title

 

24. Vickie Guerrero booked an immediate rematch; Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

 

25. May 30, 2011 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated U.S. Champion Kofi Kingston in a non-title match

 

26. June 13, 2011 – RAW: U.S. Champion Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

 

27. June 19, 2011 – WWE Capitol Punishment: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston by submission to win the United States title

 

28. June 20, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE United States champion Dolph Ziggler by disqualification in a 2/3 Falls Match

 

29. June 27, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Non-title Players Choice Match with Vickie banned

 

30. October 3, 2011 – RAW: John Cena, CM Punk, Sheamus, Kofi Kingston, Mason Ryan and Evan Bourne defeated Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Cody Rhodes, Christian and David Otunga.

 

31. October 7, 2011 – SmackDown: U.S. Champion Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated WWE Tag Team Champions Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne in a non-title match

 

32. October 10, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne and Mason Ryan defeated David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

 

33. October 14, 2011 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Zack Ryder defeated U.S. Champion Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

 

34. February 6, 2012 – RAW: Chris Jericho defeated WWE Champion CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, R-Truth and Kofi Kingston in a 6 pack non-title match

 

35. February 19, 2012 – Elimination Chamber: WWE Champion CM Punk defeated Dolph Ziggler, Chris Jericho, The Miz, R-Truth, Kofi Kingston in the elimination chamber match to retain the title.

 

36. February 21, 2012 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated Kofi Kingston and R-Truth

 

37. February 27, 2012 – RAW: WWE Tag Team Champions Epico and Primo Colon defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger and Kofi Kingston and R-Truth in a 3-way tag team match to retain the titles

 

38. March 19, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated R-Truth and Kofi Kingston

 

39. April 1, 2012 – Wrestlemania 28: Team Johnny (Mark Henry, David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler, Christian, The Miz, and Jack Swagger) defeated Team Teddy (Santino Marella, Kofi Kingston, R-Tuth, Zack Ryder, Great Khali, and Booker T) to give John Laurinaitis full control of WWE television

 

40. May 7, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

 

41. May 14, 2012 – RAW: WWE Tag Team Champions R-Truth and Kofi Kingston and Brodus Clay defeated The Miz, Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

 

42. May 20, 2012 – Over The Limit: WWE Tag Team Champions Kofi Kingston and R-Truth defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger to retain the titles

 

43. May 28, 2012 – RAW: WTC Kofi Kingston and R-Truth defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler to retain

 

44. September 24, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston by pin fall. Before the match both R-Truth and Vickie Guerrero were sent to the back

 

45. September 27, 2012 - Superstars: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

 

46. November 12, 2012 – RAW: Alberto Del Rio and Dolph Ziggler defeated I.C. Champion Kofi Kingston and Randy Orton

 

47. November 18, 2012 – Survivor Series: Alberto Del Rio, Damien Sandow, David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler, and Wade Barrett defeated Kane, Daniel Bryan, Kofi Kingston, The Miz, and Randy Orton in the traditional Survivor Series match. Dolph Ziggler was the sole survivor.

 

48. February 17, 2013 – Elimination Chamber: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston

 

49. March 18, 2013 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

 

50. March 22, 2013 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston

 

51. April 29, 2013 – RAW: WWE world heavyweight champion Dolph Ziggler defeated WWE United States champion Kofi Kingston in a non-title match

 

52. June 29, 2014 – Money in the Bank: Seth Rollins defeated Dean Ambrose, Jack Swagger, Rob Van Dam, Kofi Kingston, and Dolph Ziggler in a “Money in the Bank” ladder match to win the championship contract

 

53. June 1, 2015 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

 

54. June 14, 2015 – Money in the Bank: Sheamus defeated Roman Reigns, Randy Orton, Neville, Kane, Dolph Ziggler, and Kofi Kingston in a “Money in a Bank” ladder match

 

55. September 21, 2015 – RAW: WWE tag team champions the New Day and Rusev defeated Dolph Ziggler and the Dudley Boyz in a 6-man tag team match

 

56. January 7, 2016 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler, Neville, Goldust, and R-Truth defeated The Miz and the WWE tag team champions the New Day in an 8-man tag team match

 

57. January 21, 2016 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler and the Usos defeated WWE tag team champions the New Day in a 6-man tag team match

 

58. January 28, 2016 – SmackDown: The Usos, Dolph Ziggler, and Titus O’Neil defeated WWE tag team champions the New Day and the Miz in an 8-man tag team match

 

59. June 7, 2019 – WWE Super ShowDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler to retain the WWE title

 

60. June 11, 2019 – SmackDown Live: The New Day defeated Dolph Ziggler, Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn

 

61. June 23, 2019 - WWE Stomping Grounds: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Steel Cage match to retain the WWE title

 

62. June 25, 2019 - SmackDown Live: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Two Out Of Three Falls match to retain the WWE title

 

63. October 25, 2019 - SmackDown Live: Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode defeated Kofi Kingston & Big E.

 

64. December 13, 2019 - SmackDown: Kofi Kingston & Big E defeated Dolph Ziggler & King Corbin by DQ.

 

65. February 21, 2020 - SmackDown: The Usos & The New Day def. The Miz, John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode.

 

66. October 12, 2020 - Raw: Tag team champions The New Day def. Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode.

 

67. November 20, 2020 - SmackDown: The New Day & The Street Profits def. Robert Roode, Dolph Ziggler, King Corbin & Sami Zayn.

 

68. October 1, 2021 - SmackDown: The New Day & The Street Profits def. Chad Gable, Otis, Robert Roode & Dolph Ziggler.

 

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5 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

Losing Bianca and getting Charlotte is the most upsetting thing.

They'll probably draft Charlotte back on Monday.

I don't follow sports so no idea how drafts work there but why do WWE announce the people who are staying on the same brand? Surely just announce the ones who move and obviously those who don't get mentioned stay where they are.

Why did Rhea/Nikki get drafted? Aren't the women's tag belts defended across both shows? 

Anyway, I'm glad Reigns and E are staying where they are and presumably will face off at Survivor Series.

I could see them switching the US and IC titles. Has Nakamura ever been on Raw? 

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45 minutes ago, rollthedice said:

They'll probably draft Charlotte back on Monday.

I don't follow sports so no idea how drafts work there but why do WWE announce the people who are staying on the same brand? Surely just announce the ones who move and obviously those who don't get mentioned stay where they are.

Why did Rhea/Nikki get drafted? Aren't the women's tag belts defended across both shows? 

Anyway, I'm glad Reigns and E are staying where they are and presumably will face off at Survivor Series.

I could see them switching the US and IC titles. Has Nakamura ever been on Raw? 

The WWE draft is nothing like a normal US sports draft where the talent pool is college players and each team picks a player, generally its the team with the worst record in the previous season who picks 1st and then the next worst etc until the championship winner picks last and then 2nd round its back to the worst team again to go 1st

Drafts back in the original brand split where just random picks of wrestlers so then there was no need to draft everyone but now they announce every pick as every superstar is in the pool available for selection (well half were available on Smackdown with the other half available on Monday) so everyone will get picked its just that some will get picked by the same brand they are already on.

Thats why Charlotte cant be drafted back to Raw as she wont be in the Pool to be taken (well they could find a way around it and trade but its probably more likely Becky goes to Raw and they do a crappy belt swap like they did last year with the tag titles)

Rhea and Nikki were drafted as when they lose the belts they would still need a brand to be on.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the US and IC titles switch either but with Apollo on Raw now i'd fear heading towards more Apollo v Nakamura matches within a couple of months.

Though I think your right that he has never been a Raw guy as yet.

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