Brewster McCloud Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: This couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Morrissey is more known for his interviews than his music these days and he knows exactly what he is doing. You think so? All that nasty ill-expressed nationalistic shite? Back in the NME days he was an interesting guy to listen to. Now he's a reactionary old queen. Seriously, Keith? Some of the things he's said recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Yep, he knows exactly what he is saying and which bits will be used for clickbait. He's working you, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I honestly don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. You have perhaps worked me, so I'll leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brewster McCloud said: I honestly don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. You have perhaps worked me, so I'll leave it. It was to do with you drawing a comparison between Albarn being inept giving an opinion and Morrissey being equally inept. The latter is not inept in the slightest when giving his opinion, he is very calculated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Well, my point, perhaps expressed poorly, was that they both come across pretty badly whenever I've heard them on chat shows or in print. You're right, Morrissey is more calculated, but what does that say about him, given some of the moronic things he's said? He might be working, but it doesn't make his worldview any less shameful. It begs the question of why a man of his undoubted talent feels the need to still work the marks by saying stupid shit. He's gay. The Smiths stood for, I don't know, outsiders or whatever, yet there he is sounding very much like everything he once rallied against, in his prancing way. I don't think that's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted December 6, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Brewster McCloud said: Well, my point, perhaps expressed poorly, was that they both come across pretty badly whenever I've heard them on chat shows or in print. You're right, Morrissey is more calculated, but what does that say about him, given some of the moronic things he's said? He might be working, but it doesn't make his worldview any less shameful. It begs the question of why a man of his undoubted talent feels the need to still work the marks by saying stupid shit. He's gay. The Smiths stood for, I don't know, outsiders or whatever, yet there he is sounding very much like everything he once rallied against, in his prancing way. I don't think that's cool. To be fair, that's something that can be said about all professional trolls, like Hopkins and Milo. If they mean what they say, they're cunts. If they don't mean what they say, they're still cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gus Mears Posted December 6, 2018 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 6, 2018 Anyway, Britain's eggiest looking man, Ken Bruce. What a boring bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brewster McCloud said: Morrissey is more calculated, but what does that say about him, given some of the moronic things he's said? That's a completely different point though and has fuck all to do with the ineptitude of expressing an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Carbomb said: To be fair, that's something that can be said about all professional trolls, like Hopkins and Milo. If they mean what they say, they're cunts. If they don't mean what they say, they're still cunts. It's the hypocrisy that's the point, though. Hopkins ever stood for anything in the first place, so she's free to spout whatever mad shit gets attention. Morrissey, whether he liked it or not, stood for the marginalized. It's a mantle he has to own because he played up to it. Now he's talking shit about immigration and whatnot. He should be ashamed of himself. He's one of the few people you can accuse of being a "sell out" much as I deride that term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewster McCloud Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: That's a completely different point though and has fuck all to do with the ineptitude of expressing an opinion. So what? We're adults. Let's discuss it. You jumped up pantry boy, you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members TheBurningRed Posted December 6, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 6, 2018 All the talk of Albarn and Coxon reminded me of the Rock Profile sketch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators PowerButchi Posted December 6, 2018 Moderators Share Posted December 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gus Mears said: Anyway, Britain's eggiest looking man, Ken Bruce. What a boring bastard. Incorrect. Popmaster makes him cool as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Just now, Brewster McCloud said: Morrissey, whether he liked it or not, stood for the marginalized. No he didn't, he stood and stands for himself. He isn't responsible for what others wish to project. Just now, Brewster McCloud said: He's one of the few people you can accuse of being a "sell out" much as I deride that term. What has he sold out? He has been flirting with racism and its imagery for over 25 years now, The Smiths were active for 5. Even back then his media was totally thought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted December 6, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brewster McCloud said: It's the hypocrisy that's the point, though. Hopkins ever stood for anything in the first place, so she's free to spout whatever mad shit gets attention. Morrissey, whether he liked it or not, stood for the marginalized. It's a mantle he has to own because he played up to it. No he's talking shit about immigration and whatnot. He should be ashamed of himself. He's one of the few people you can accuse of being a "sell out" much as I deride that term. It's all much of a muchness at this point. We don't disagree on what a cock Morissey is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Gus Mears Posted December 6, 2018 Author Paid Members Share Posted December 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, PowerButchi said: Incorrect. Popmaster makes him cool as fuck. 100% disagree with this. Though my position is clouded by when I worked for the Council and Jim 'using the scanner is really fun' Waite and the other people who had been there since the mid 80's insisted on putting it on every day religiously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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