CavemanLynn Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 The weight classes idea comes up frequently, and although I like the idea it can too easily fall apart if used poorly. It's basically an advertising tool to give viewers an idea of what to expect on a card without being familiar with the wrestlers themselves. It needs to be as minimal as possible though. I'd stick to Heavyweight for the bigger boys, Cruiserweight for the smaller (and cruiser- sounds better than light-), and Catchweight for a bout between a mix of weights. You don't need set divisions or (gulp) league tables, but for those first few weeks, it could help establish the roster in the eyes of new viewers. This also depends on the roster being honest with themselves - the Bucks and Omega are nowhere near Heavyweight. Further detail could be added by titling matches to show their place in the scheme of things eg Exhibition for your 'filler' bouts, Competition for those that count towards a (kayfabe) ranking or other qualification system (number one contender etc) for title shots, and Title for the big belt matches. Well managed, you've got storyline possibilities, spinning on existing tropes, like the heel who wins the belt then keeps putting off title defences by having his manager sign for Exhibition bouts instead - "I'm number one contender and you owe me a shot!" "I'll see when I can fit you into my *busy* schedule, son." Weighins can jog on for the most part, but again, it's down to smart use of angles. A Cruiserweight champ who gets complacent and loses the belt because he doesn't make weight. The dominant champ on the border line who has to choose which division to go all in on. The double champ who risks burnout defending both belts between divisions. If they're going to go live, they've got to be smart about it. The BTE work shows they know how to put entertaining pretapes together, so I think they should lean into that across the roster, recording skits, intro angles, "day in the life of"s, special visits, etc to be spliced into the live feed for home viewers, while the live fans get a quick squash or promo for time. That footage could even be used for introducing future onscreen talent or special online or on demand only content. Fuck it. Gimme Cody's phone number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted January 11, 2019 Awards Moderator Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, BigJackTaylor said: Interesting. Just because it's a work doesn't mean you can't create some sort of pseudo legitimacy. Hell, the fact that it is a work would mean although there were limitations with having the weight classes you could create a lucha goes through the weight classes and gets his chance against the big monsters story. Your basically saying because it's fake just cabaret act it by which I mean make it hokey cos that's all people know. Although NJPW has some sort of pseudo sport legitimacy and that seems to work doesn't it. If the lucha goes through the weight classes to get his chance against the big monsters, doesn't that negate the point of the weight classes because you'd be ignoring them? Or does the lucha guy have to gain 100 pounds to complete this angle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugglecakes Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 According to Meltzer, Omega is a certainty for AEW. Also, the Bucks turned down main event level money from WWE, BTE on the Network and an escape clause in the first 6 months of their contracts. Two major cable stations are negotiating for a live weekly two hour show. Tony Khan isn't just funding AEW, he'll also be the Head of Creative, in the Vince role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanLynn Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 'Main Event'-level or 'main event'-level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snugglecakes Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, CavemanLynn said: 'Main Event'-level or 'main event'-level? AJ Styles level, that was the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted January 11, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) AJ Styles level, apparently. Presumably each, not half an AJ Styles per Buck. Edited January 11, 2019 by BomberPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJackTaylor Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said: If the lucha goes through the weight classes to get his chance against the big monsters, doesn't that negate the point of the weight classes because you'd be ignoring them? Or does the lucha guy have to gain 100 pounds to complete this angle? If the lucha is that good it doesn't matter surely. Like Manny Pacquiao beating Antonio Margarito at Light Middleweight when he was half the size. If your good enough or over enough in wrestling terms you go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam O'Rourke Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Latest SCG Radio is up, posting it here just in the spirit of the topic, where we break down Wrestle Kingdom 13, talking all the matches, the winners and losers, the greatness of Hiroshi Tanahashi, Switchblade as top heel, issues with the show, the outlook on the future and the big stories coming from the landmark event. From there, we discuss the apparent departure of Kenny Omega and the Elite, the impact it has, and the possibilities behind All Elite Wrestling. A look at the rally, the roster and whispers around the television deal are gone into, as the insanity of 2019 begins in grand fashion. A fun show, check it out and let us know what you think! https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/download/hh3k9g/SCG_Radio_145_-_Wrestle_Kingdom_13_and_All_Elite_Wrestling.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thicko Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BigJackTaylor said: If the lucha is that good it doesn't matter surely. Like Manny Pacquiao beating Antonio Margarito at Light Middleweight when he was half the size. If your good enough or over enough in wrestling terms you go up. Not sure you understand how weight works?! Edited January 11, 2019 by thicko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJackTaylor Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, thicko said: Not sure you understand how weight works?! Please educate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted January 11, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, BomberPat said: AJ Styles level, apparently. Presumably each, not half an AJ Styles per Buck. Pretty harsh to say Styles is only worth one or two Bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPDTT Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Right, I'm so pumped for this! Hotel room reserved in Vegas (went with the Hard Rock as I suspect thats where Starrcast will be), flights picked out, time off work booked, now I just need to wait for tickets to go on sale! Probably my only chance to do somethng like this as I don't think I can dodge the whole 'kids' thing with my wife much longer...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted January 11, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, MPDTT said: Probably my only chance to do somethng like this as I don't think I can dodge the whole 'growing up' thing with my Mum much longer...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted January 11, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted January 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, MPDTT said: Right, I'm so pumped for this! You don't even know who's on the show yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPDTT Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, tiger_rick said: Showing my age! I'm at that point - married last year, bought a 4 bed house in South London in August, 2 cats........life is taking over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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