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21 minutes ago, Supremo said:

I can only assume they don't have Omega yet, if at all. There's no way you'd do that press conference and not end with him if he was signed. That was why it felt like such an anticlimax with Jericho. When they shot up all the fireworks there was a definite sense of, "hang on, is that it?"

Jericho's an interesting case, isn't he? He's so great, and has done awesome things since leaving WWE the last time. He's also the perfect signig for AEW. And yet, for whatever reason, there's always this slight aura of tragedy about Chris, where he constantly acts and talks like he's a bigger star than he actually is. It's even worse now he's got the gut.

Pac's a great signing.

MJF is a shit Alberto Del Rio knock off though. Don't see the appeal at all.

 

You can't announce someone when they're still under contract elsewhere, that's if he goes there anyway. That was the major meltdown I saw on Youtube Live chat which was some how worse than normal Youtube comments

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12 minutes ago, Kamaras-Tash said:

Are the Impact lads signed to contracts?

Yes but they’re pretty lax. Half the roster seems to work for MLW and a few were also at All In.

Can’t see Don Callis having an issue with letting any of their wrestlers work for AEW (in fact they’d probably welcome the exposure).

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Are some talent still under contract to Lucha Underground? Does that even still exist?? Jeff Cobb is probably a no-go if so, right?

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2 minutes ago, PunkStep said:

Are some talent still under contract to Lucha Underground? Does that even still exist?? Jeff Cobb is probably a no-go if so, right?

 

Hes signed with ROH now Im sure, its all so complicated atm

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If that story about them doing TV with Turner is true then hats off to them, that has to be the funniest, snidest thing anyone's done to Vince in years. I don't know fuck all about TV these days so he could have the reach of the channel with Topless Darts ans Rusty Goff doing the weather for all I know, but fuck me. Imagine Vince's syrup hitting the roof when he hears that.

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10 hours ago, PunkStep said:

Pressed play on that live stream, saw HEY HEY IT'S CONRAD, thought nah you're alright.

 

Yeah, I hate that guy.
He really put me off the podcast with Prichard and then recently came across some stuff with Bischof and gave it a listen.
Heard Conrad was hosting it and was like 'Eurgh, okay, I'll give it a chance'. Eric says something and Conrad yells, like genuinely shouts and rants for ages to the point where even Eric was like 'Why are you shouting!? Relax. Geez!'

I don't know the guy but he just seem like the worst kind of 'Hey I'm a big star!' kind of person when in actuality he really isn't and most of us are like 'Who is this fat fuck!?',
 

Anyway, AEW - yay!

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The press conference looked far too much like amateurs playing at being the big leagues - production quality and presentation-wise, it's not something that's exactly filling me with excitement. A few of the announcements did pique my interest, and get me more hyped than I was before - mostly PAC showing up with his Dragon Gate title, and the announcement that they're working with CIMA's Chinese lads. In terms of international relationships, if they're not working with NJPW, that's probably the best move they could have made.

Jericho showing up is interesting, but hardly a surprise considering his name's been attached to this since day one. It could well be a test of if Jericho is as big a star as he thinks he is (no one is as big a star as Chris Jericho thinks he is), now that the novelty of "Chris Jericho outside of WWE" has largely worn off.

The more exciting announcements long term were medical benefits, equal pay, and full contracts. But I still have a lot of doubts around all of it. There have been weasel words suggesting that it's only the "top stars" getting benefits, and how are people going to be signed to exclusive contracts while not working until May, with only maybe one show in-between now and then? 

Equal pay, as well, is a dubious one - sounds great, but the phrasing was "equal rate of pay", so male and female wrestlers in equivalent roles would be paid equally. Who defines that? This isn't a game of EWR (as much as it feels like one) where you can say "oh, these two are both upper midcard" when determining their rate of pay.
Also, while equal pay for the female wrestlers is laudable, there have only been three announced - Brandi Rhodes, Penelope Ford and Britt Baker. Two of those are predominantly valets for men on the roster, and all three of them have the "male wrestler's partner" baggage hanging over them, with two in particular being partners of men working for AEW, which makes it feel like they're getting booked as a favour. I'm going to want to see more commitment to a decent women's division before I get too excited about the equal pay talk.

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Yeah Conrad needs to get lost.

Jericho was an obvious, yet still good signing by them. Certainly it'll peak the interest of casual fans. Jericho has a way to keep himself relevant doesn't he? Huge props to him.

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9 hours ago, AdamTH17 said:

Mid card comedy act? Which was the last Jericho match you watched?

Jericho was the co-main event at Wrestle Kingdom, an event that lots of the fans in attendance would've watched, and delivered a really good match. Plus, after previously saying he'd never work for another American company, it was the right choice to end on the shock factor of him signing for AEW.

Good foundations put into place I thought. Don't think they've made a single bad signing as of yet. Obviously the statements regarding healthcare and equal pay were smart, I can't see that not being tempting for a lot of the WWE lads sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

The last jericho match I saw was him losing to Naito last week. The last time the vast majority of wrestling fans (They ones they need to stop this being just another indy) saw him was as a 50 year old mid card comedy act in wwe. Only now hes also fat and has an even bigger ego. 

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30 minutes ago, BomberPat said:

The press conference looked far too much like amateurs playing at being the big leagues - production quality and presentation-wise, it's not something that's exactly filling me with excitement. A few of the announcements did pique my interest, and get me more hyped than I was before - mostly PAC showing up with his Dragon Gate title, and the announcement that they're working with CIMA's Chinese lads. In terms of international relationships, if they're not working with NJPW, that's probably the best move they could have made.

Jericho showing up is interesting, but hardly a surprise considering his name's been attached to this since day one. It could well be a test of if Jericho is as big a star as he thinks he is (no one is as big a star as Chris Jericho thinks he is), now that the novelty of "Chris Jericho outside of WWE" has largely worn off.

The more exciting announcements long term were medical benefits, equal pay, and full contracts. But I still have a lot of doubts around all of it. There have been weasel words suggesting that it's only the "top stars" getting benefits, and how are people going to be signed to exclusive contracts while not working until May, with only maybe one show in-between now and then? 

Equal pay, as well, is a dubious one - sounds great, but the phrasing was "equal rate of pay", so male and female wrestlers in equivalent roles would be paid equally. Who defines that? This isn't a game of EWR (as much as it feels like one) where you can say "oh, these two are both upper midcard" when determining their rate of pay.
Also, while equal pay for the female wrestlers is laudable, there have only been three announced - Brandi Rhodes, Penelope Ford and Britt Baker. Two of those are predominantly valets for men on the roster, and all three of them have the "male wrestler's partner" baggage hanging over them, with two in particular being partners of men working for AEW, which makes it feel like they're getting booked as a favour. I'm going to want to see more commitment to a decent women's division before I get too excited about the equal pay talk.

Yeah, they seem to be incredibly vague about the healthcare stuff.

https://411mania.com/wrestling/cody-and-young-bucks-say-never-say-never-to-aew-providing-benefits-to-talent/

That interview suggests it's just the executives (ie. Cody and his mates) who are receiving healthcare etc. 

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Had to read up on this because I couldn't work it out from the gibberish on here! 😆

Names are all the ones I expected so far although admittedly only expected Neville since yesterday. Had to google Britt Baker,  Maxwell J Friedman, Penelope Ford and Adam Page. Never heard of the first three, was being gormless about Page.

This clearly is going to be another NXT or a better TNA at best. Not a bad thing for the industry but can't honestly say it's what I'm crying out for. Who knows though. Will certianly give it a go if we ever work out what it is.

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The last time the vast majority of wrestling fans (They ones they need to stop this being just another indy) saw him was as a 50 year old mid card comedy act in wwe. Only now hes also fat and has an even bigger ego. 

Jericho was one of the most over guys in the company with 'The List'. He was also involved in a high profile feud with Owens. Not sure what you're referring to at all.

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Got round to watching the full thing on YouTube this morning.

Conrad Thompson can fuck right off. “Is this the biggest thing in Wrestling history or what?”, erm...no, not by a long way you pillock. Also the first couple of minutes are dominated by this shot of somebody who decided to bring a flag

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PAC showing up in his gear was the highlight of the whole thing, closely followed by Jericho sporting his Sinister Minister hairline, 23B240A6-611C-43FE-8607-65D3EC1C4A40_zps

maybe he should have worn his Cohen hat after all 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Factotum said:

Jericho was one of the most over guys in the company with 'The List'. He was also involved in a high profile feud with Owens. Not sure what you're referring to at all.

The list was literally a mid card comedy act. Literally. 

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