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9 hours ago, Kamaras-Tash said:

 

Im sure I paid that for Rebellion 99, do you want them to charge 1.99 or something?

Don't be deliberately obtuse 🤔 You're comparing buying a Sky Box Office PPV from the biggest wrestling company in the world, during it's biggest boom period (ignoring the fact that even at the time people really, really didn't like paying that much for the UK only PPVS)

Keep in mind, since that point in the UK we've had free WWE pay per views, free TNA PPVs and WWE has totally changed the benchmark by offering their biggest PPV and a months worth of extra content for 9.99.

If the market leader is charging that then you can't really justify a mainstream company charging 50% more, in a market that is historically reluctant to pay and used to free content

 

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Somewhere on Something to Wrestle with they talk about arena configurations, Rumble 1997 in the Alamodome I think. In my understanding they could rent the O2 only keep the lower bowl or part of open. They costs would then come right down. It's better for them to hold a show in an arena where they hold shows 50% of year and are just looking for something to fill one of the few empty calendar dates. The O2 is arranged almost a year in advance so they tend to try and fill as many spots up as possible. For they empty slots they have much small configuration options. It can work to a companies advantage taking one of these over the smaller venues for a number of reasons. Primarily they have full time staffing in most of the key areas sorted with or without this booking. That being security, mercy sales, event staffing and concession staffing. Add on top the much broader marketing scope (listened on event flyers, the main website and arena's social media fields), they will have event expertise so will know how to price tickets and merchandise. They also have in-house screening and sound, and are one of the few venues in this Country naturally set up for filming wrestling / boxing (hence why WWE and Eddie Hearn only keep to a few arenas for their main televised stuff). This is why TNA hired arena's after that single tour using hall type buildings. They found it cost them extra money doing all the advertising, hiring out additional venues for the meet and greets. Despite Alex Shane cashing in setting up that initial tour, they found it much cheaper and TV friendly selling a low configuration arena, sell 7,000 initially raising up to 10-15k if needed. These venues can always be increased at a later stage, plus they will probably lower their cost if they have a night to fill. Close bowls, bring the ring forward, just cover the empty sections and darken the unoccupied seats. If filming try and predominantly sell the non floor seats opposite the hard cam. Hire a 4,000 hall and that's you limit. 

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Yes but to me you're missing the point. A potential show here wouldn't be about making it a once off cash grab. It would be about presenting an image of an exciting new alternative wrestling company. There's much more value in progressively running bigger arena's over a series of shows and trying to build a loyal fanbase than their is running a show in a building to big for them at a huge cost with large area's tarped off masses of empty seats.

If you took some of the best ever ECW shows and stuck them into partially closed off arena's to get some extra ticket sales instead of more intimate arena's filled with passionate fans maybe they'd have made a little more money on those individual occasions but it would have massively taken away from the show.

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The source for this is me pulling stuff out of my arse, but I think 02's hiring set-up means it's pretty much only viable if you're going to come close to filling it, whereas Wembley can work even if you have a small-scale set-up. Might just be as simple as 02 being the top venue and always in demand, so Wembley having to be more flexible when taking bookings.

Also, Wembley looks better with a small-scale configuration. Progress was barely half-full but the way it was set up just looked like a sold-out arena.

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12 minutes ago, JNLister said:

The source for this is me pulling stuff out of my arse

Loki at a client meeting?

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49 minutes ago, JNLister said:

The source for this is me pulling stuff out of my arse, but I think 02's hiring set-up means it's pretty much only viable if you're going to come close to filling it, whereas Wembley can work even if you have a small-scale set-up. Might just be as simple as 02 being the top venue and always in demand, so Wembley having to be more flexible when taking bookings.

 

theres plenty of boxing shows in the o2 that come nowhere near close to filling it. I dont think they do much to modify the arena other than curtain off the top layer.

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1 hour ago, Jonny Vegas said:

If you took some of the best ever ECW shows and stuck them into partially closed off arena's to get some extra ticket sales instead of more intimate arena's filled with passionate fans maybe they'd have made a little more money on those individual occasions but it would have massively taken away from the show.

Let's not confuse ECW with a business model anyone should seek inspiration from.

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5 hours ago, chokeout said:

If the market leader is charging that then you can't really justify a mainstream company charging 50% more, in a market that is historically reluctant to pay and used to free content

 

It’s not a mainstream company. It’s a niche company at a time when hardcore fans are spending more than ever. £9.99 isn’t going to sell the show to the casual viewer, and any existing fan who isn’t up for paying the £14.99 clearly isn’t that bothered about changing the business and ending Evil Vince’s monopoly.

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2 minutes ago, King Pitcos said:

It’s not a mainstream company. It’s a niche company at a time when hardcore fans are spending more than ever. £9.99 isn’t going to sell the show to the casual viewer, and any existing fan who isn’t up for paying the £14.99 clearly isn’t that bothered about changing the business and ending Evil Vince’s monopoly.

I meant ITV

AEW is as far from mainstream as you can get but you would think that as a company ITV would want to appeal to as wide an audience as possible, including lapsed fans or just the curious, not just existing hardcore fans.

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 Anyone know if I order now am I entitled to reruns as well 

 

What do I have to wait for them to become available

 

After airing

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7 hours ago, chokeout said:

I meant ITV

AEW is as far from mainstream as you can get but you would think that as a company ITV would want to appeal to as wide an audience as possible, including lapsed fans or just the curious, not just existing hardcore fans.

They can’t hang their hats on people channel-hopping at 1am and going “oh go on then, i don’t like wrestling/haven’t watched it for years but I’ll get this, it’s only a tenner.”

This is ITV monetising (and evaluating) the current audience for AEW, rather than pretending that a million buys will come if it’s at a price that you personally like.

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19 minutes ago, King Pitcos said:

They can’t hang their hats on people channel-hopping at 1am and going “oh go on then, i don’t like wrestling/haven’t watched it for years but I’ll get this, it’s only a tenner.”

This is ITV monetising (and evaluating) the current audience for AEW, rather than pretending that a million buys will come if it’s at a price that you personally like.

Jesus Pictos. What's with the passive aggressiveness? I've not said anything like that

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I just had a read through the first 5 or so pages of this thread......fun to see what we got right and what we got wrong.

With everything that's come since, has your view on the project changed since it was first rumoured?

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The people behind the promotion seem to be doing a good job, so I'll give them a chance and order the PPV. A chunk of the fanbase are dickheads.

That's where I'm at right now.

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