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So, they've announced PPV on ITV, which has featured Chris Eubank Jr bouts in the past as well as other decent boxing cards, with the pre-show on ITV 4, which is a pretty mainstream channel in the UK. That's got to be a good thing, right? Surely that has to be seen as a success?

If we're talking UK television, outside of BT Sports picking it up, is there any other channel or family of channels that would be better served to give them a chance to reach as many eyeballs?

 

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Don't think "outside of BT Sports" is valid really. Nothing on BT sports gets anywhere near as many eyes as it did on BBC/ITV. This is as good as it gets in this country.

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Being on TV = ad revenue = a revenue stream, no matter how small, so its good news. But its nothing to be massively excited about as its "eyes on the product" outside the country the fed will be running most of their live events in and in the early going its live gates that matter most to a promotions survival, balance sheet wise.

Unless it's ran by idiots happy to finance shows at a loss, like 1PW.

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8 minutes ago, air_raid said:

Being on TV = ad revenue = a revenue stream, no matter how small, so its good news. But its nothing to be massively excited about as its "eyes on the product" outside the country the fed will be running most of their live events in and in the early going its live gates that matter most to a promotions survival, balance sheet wise.

Unless it's ran by idiots happy to finance shows at a loss, like 1PW.

AEW aren't going to be getting ad revenue if their show's on ITV4 surely? It's just going to be rights fees, which is a lovely bonus bit of cash with no added expense, but it's not going to be the type of ridiculous income people are getting for live sports in the US.

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26 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

Don't think "outside of BT Sports" is valid really. Nothing on BT sports gets anywhere near as many eyes as it did on BBC/ITV. This is as good as it gets in this country.

I always assumed getting on either BT or Sky was a bigger deal for any wrestling or sports company in all honesty. I could be wrong, mind you.

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2 minutes ago, David said:

I always assumed getting on either BT or Sky was a bigger deal for any wrestling or sports company in all honesty. I could be wrong, mind you.

For programming fees, I would think you're right. But for getting numbers watching and turning that into revenue, they're nowhere near.

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29 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

For programming fees, I would think you're right. But for getting numbers watching and turning that into revenue, they're nowhere near.

What kind of revenue will All Elite generate from UK viewers though? PPV buys and some merch sales? I'm not sure if they're planning extended tours over here, are they? But then again, they most likely haven't been offered a deal by BT, and certainly not by Sky Sports, so the higher programming fees won't really come into it.

Either way, it's good to see they're making some sort of progress on the TV front. 

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18 hours ago, MPDTT said:

Great news! And makes sense for ITV to look to partner with a company that wants to provide PPV output also. Hopefully Tuesday Night Dynamite ultimately ends up on ITV4 also. 

I think this is key. It’s getting the tv series to advertise selling PPVs. I think if it was just a weekly series it would be less of an attraction to ITV. I am sure AEW have already decided how many PPVs a year they will schedule so will have brought that info to the negotiating table already.

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1 hour ago, JNLister said:

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AEW aren't going to be getting ad revenue if their show's on ITV4 surely? It's just going to be rights fees, which is a lovely bonus bit of cash with no added expense, but it's not going to be the type of ridiculous income people are getting for live sports in the US.

Yes, There’s no ad revenue for AEW to get from ITV. It will b a flat license fee per episode. Itv take the ad revenue. 

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At this stage surely the exposure of being on free to air TV will be a benefit. The PPV deal allows AEW to monetize the small UK fanbase who are already aware of the product but if AEW is going to succeed it is going to have to reach a lot more people than that and exposure on any of ITV's channels is going to help with that.

Lets not also forget that TNA being on free TV allowed them to run arena shows in the UK which is far beyond the venues they were booking in the US with the Spike deal. TNA didn't really take advantage because they were really bad at making money off of anything. For better or for worse that doesn't seem to be the case with AEW who have shown, if nothing else, they will do anything to part the fans from their cash.

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They've just signed Jerry Lynn up as a coach. Jerry Lynn has officially worked for everyone ever. He had matches in the AWA just before they closed as well. WWF, WCW, ECW, TNA, ROH, SMW, fucking everyone.

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5 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

They've just signed Jerry Lynn up as a coach. Jerry Lynn has officially worked for everyone ever. He had matches in the AWA just before they closed as well. WWF, WCW, ECW, TNA, ROH, SMW, fucking everyone.

Lets not forget his biggest contribution to the sport in the big scheme of things - in Global, wrestling Lynn got important eyes on Kid.

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11 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

They've just signed Jerry Lynn up as a coach. Jerry Lynn has officially worked for everyone ever. He had matches in the AWA just before they closed as well. WWF, WCW, ECW, TNA, ROH, SMW, fucking everyone.

I've just taken a gander at his CageMatch profile and, bloody hell, I think he has wrestled for every fucker, and then some.

Also, I never knew he did a  WWF taping back in '89;

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16.05.1989 

Rick Martel defeats Jerry Lynn (2:49)
WWF Wrestling Challenge #144 - TV-Show @ LaCrosse Center in LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA


The Twin Towers (Akeem & The Big Boss Man) defeat Jerry Lynn & Ray Brown (2:20)
WWF Wrestling Challenge #146 - TV-Show @ LaCrosse Center in LaCrosse, Wisconsin, USA

 

And he was in the '96 Best Of The Super Juniors! Great catch by AEW.

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5 hours ago, Doog said:

The UK was TNAs biggest market at one point 

Exactly, and TNA turned a profit for what, 0-1 years of its existence? 

Being on free TV would be no bad thing at all (as long as there’s not an unrealistic ratings expectation that’d lead to cancellation), but it’s no cause for doing cartwheels given how successful the last two wrestling promotions that did it were.

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