Paid Members I Bent My Wookie Posted February 9, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted February 9, 2019 I laughed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Jonny Vegas said: Does former WWE champion Dean Ambrose squashing a guy who looks like he works part time in Lush elevate him in any way though? Not for me. Havoc looks like a guy any credible wrestler SHOULD be squashing. Ambrose showing off his weapons and hardcore style to an audience unlikely to have seen the side of his act against a guy willing to take all kinds of punishment and is an Czw tournament of death isn’t the same as you have put it like a jobber being squished. Everyone watching this will have seen ambrose as champion. But this would establish another side not seen against someone with credibility in the hardcore/deathmatch scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jonny Vegas said: Edited February 10, 2019 by Louch Double post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPDTT Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Supremo said: This is a fun hype video. The more I think about it, the more Pac stands out as their best acquisition by a condierable margin. He'd been gone so long that I'd forgotten how great his run as Cruiserweight champion was. That promo he cut on Adam Page brought it all back. The lad's the full package. I'd make him champion and have guys like Omega and (hopefully) Ibushi chase him. Loved that Avengers video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPDTT Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 So with the roster taking shape, an instant sell out at MGM a certainty and this main event for show #1: My question is, for critics and advocates alike, what does AEW need to achieve, as a minimum, over the next 6 months to convince you that they are going to be that credible alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) * Announce a decent TV deal for starters - I’m not expecting them to end up on USA Network or something like that, but they need to be on somewhere decent that can reach a large portion, if not all of the country. Amongst the myriad of other reasons, the lack of a strong TV deal has left Impact in the state that it is now in, and if AEW come out say “hey everyone, we’re going to be on PopTV!” then they’ll be fucked from the word go. It doesn’t matter how good your content is if you have shit distribution for it. * Don’t just put the championships on themselves - I’m assuming they’re going to have the usual top, secondary, tag and women’s titles. But if Kenny Omega wins the top one, Cody wins the secondary and the Bucks end as the Tag champions, then its just them booking themselves at the top of the card. That’s not to say that is what they’ll do, but if they do then it’ll leave a sour taste. I’m convinced that Cody only held the NWA World Title because he won it on a show that he was booking, just so that he could have ‘his’ moment. The fact that he dropped it back to Aldis at the next opportunity doesn’t help either, the NWA belt wasn’t elevated in the process, but at least can now say he’s a former NWA World Champion just like his dad. I’m still on the fence about the whole venture. I’m not sure it will be for me but I don’t want to see it fail. There’s still that cynical part of me that thinks this could just end up being a Being The Elite vanity project and they’ve managed to charm a guy with a boatload of money to foot the bill. While I doubt that the Khans are putting 100% of the money in to fund AEW, they are putting in the majority (at least initially) and if it fails stand to lose a lot more than Cody and co. Edited February 10, 2019 by WyattSheepMask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 10, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) I think it needs to feel like something unique, the roster to me outside of Jericho and Omega just looks like the kind of thing you can watch at an indy show in America. The TV show needs to stands out and work a something that grips you and makes you want to tune in every week. That and the presentation is what is going to be needed to set it apart if they want to have any kind of prolonged success. Edited February 10, 2019 by Egg Shen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPDTT Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 The TV deal is key. I hope it's TNT, but I also hope they don't try to air opposite WWE. It's impossible to keep everyone happy with the roster, you hire ex WWE guys and you're accused of being WWE-lite, you bring in fresh faces from the indies and you're accused of not having name recognition and being too indie! I ultimately think they need to translate the momentum from All In and Double or Nothing into weekly TV and touring schedule ASAP - no 'go slow, they need to strike whilst the iron is hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGIT Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, WyattSheepMask said: the NWA belt wasn’t elevated in the process I disagree to a point, the NWA belt has been next to nothing for years and years, people were at least interested/ talking about it when Cody won it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 A TV show that maintains a consistent quality and doesn't just fall into the same traps that WWE does. I want them to deliver on being different and until they show it on a regular basis it's just all talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted February 10, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) I've said it before, but one of the most important things for me is that they keep their shows to a normal, consumable length. I'm sick and tired of even the best shows feeling like a marathon to get through. All In, for example, was easily an hour to ninety minutes too long. Fatigue set in like a motherfucker during Okada vs. Scurll. Also, Goldberg. Edited February 10, 2019 by Supremo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted February 10, 2019 Awards Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Supremo said: This is a fun hype video. The more I think about it, the more Pac stands out as their best acquisition by a condierable margin. He'd been gone so long that I'd forgotten how great his run as Cruiserweight champion was. That promo he cut on Adam Page brought it all back. The lad's the full package. I'd make him champion and have guys like Omega and (hopefully) Ibushi chase him. Can't say it made me hyped for AEW, but it did make me want to watch Infinity War for the eighth time! I think real hype could be a bit of a struggle in reaching new people until they've got a few shows under their belt - they need footage of all their AEW stars from AEW shows. But to make the hype look big time, those need to be big looking shows, for which you need adequate hype ... etc etc. (I know that video's just a fan one so I'm not necessarily talking about that hype particularly) Agree with you on Pac. If AEW is able to position him as the star he could be, and to show off the character work he had on 205 along with the athleticism we know he's got in a higher profile role, I'm there for it. Edited February 10, 2019 by HarmonicGenerator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Accident Prone Posted February 10, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, LEGIT said: I disagree to a point, the NWA belt has been next to nothing for years and years, people were at least interested/ talking about it when Cody won it. But no one was really talking about it afterwards. There was no big deal made of Cody dropping it back to Aldis six weeks later. And no one has really talked about Aldis or the NWA since then. It's just been living in it's own bubble, just like it was before the All In hoopla. Edited February 10, 2019 by Accident Prone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Accident Prone said: But no one was really talking about it afterwards. There was no big deal made of Cody dropping it back to Aldis six weeks later. And no one has really talked about Aldis or the NWA since then. It's just been living in it's own bubble, just like it was before the All In hoopla. And that’s my point, for all they did it building up as a big match, the belt was no better off for Cody having won it. Granted, he might not have been able to do a whole lot with a 6 week title reign, but then what was the point. Aldis, the NWA belt and the NWA promotion we’re no better off as a result, but Cody gets to say he was World Champion like his dad was, and all he had to do was book himself to win it. If anything, Aldis besting the former 2x Intercontinental Champion, 6x Tag Team Champion and ROH World Champion would have elevated him and the title. But no, Cody wins, crosses off something from bucket-list, drops it back straight again and everything went back to how it was and it might aswell have never even happened Edited February 10, 2019 by WyattSheepMask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_3165 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 How are people in the UK going to watch these shows? I assume it will be a pay deal as they haven't got a deal with Sky etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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