Sheffbag Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Because Macho Man is dead and he will always be the greatest King of WWF/E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2018 I'm not sure how the Saudi Royal Family will feel about the suggestion that someone could just crown a new king... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted October 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2018 Call it Queen of the Ring. Winner gets a threesome with Lenny & Lodi. Sure that will be fine over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Zeb Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 11 hours ago, elisarcabrera said: https://deadspin.com/wwe-taking-tens-of-millions-in-saudi-money-sure-looks-a-1829687956 By "monitoring the situation" of course they mean "monitoring public reaction." If Crown Jewel remains a welcome reward for enough people's nine-ninety-nines the situation will be just grand, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, Uncle Zeb said: If Crown Jewel remains a welcome reward for enough people's nine-ninety-nines the situation will be just grand, I'm sure. I was wondering about that. I've cancelled my Network subscription - partly because I felt I couldn't in good faith complain about the Saudi Arabia shows while still paying for them - but these shows are completely bought up front, right? If the Saudi royal family are giving WWE tens of millions of dollars, and they're happy to downgrade to a much smaller arena, the gate obviously doesn't matter to them, and I can't imagine Network subscriptions do either. When it's all paid for already, do people's Network fees even make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted October 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2018 I think this would be a bigger story at a different time or in a different place. But in a country where the current acceptable face of politics is Donald Trump, I just don't see a huge enough backlash even though this is morally iffy. I'm sure it will be frowned upon by a load of people who don't currently watch, sponsor or show their product but probably not by the people who do. Or not enough of them anyway. Like it or not, despite their human rights violations, their backwards attitudes to homosexuality, their archaic views on crime and punishment - there is a lot of business going on with these states in the middle east, a lot of sports cosying up to them and a lot of governments snuggling close for some mutual dick stroking. We know why. Money. Oil. Oil money. I'm not at all sure this is right for WWE but they're far from alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted October 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Sheffbag said: Seamus? ................ On 10/11/2018 at 12:11 PM, bigfoote said: Finn (IRE)  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted October 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, tiger_rick said: I think this would be a bigger story at a different time or in a different place. But in a country where the current acceptable face of politics is Donald Trump, I just don't see a huge enough backlash even though this is morally iffy. I'm sure it will be frowned upon by a load of people who don't currently watch, sponsor or show their product but probably not by the people who do. Or not enough of them anyway. Like it or not, despite their human rights violations, their backwards attitudes to homosexuality, their archaic views on crime and punishment - there is a lot of business going on with these states in the middle east, a lot of sports cosying up to them and a lot of governments snuggling close for some mutual dick stroking. We know why. Money. Oil. Oil money. I'm not at all sure this is right for WWE but they're far from alone. Yeah, won't make a blind bit of difference, sadly. Donald Trump's response was completely (predictably) wrong-headed on just about every level - a man clearly out of his depth, having no idea how to deal with such a delicate situation, yet still managed to all but say that he sells too many weapons to Saudi Arabia to make a fuss, and that the journalist murdered wasn't important because he wasn't a US citizen. Meanwhile, you've got Jeremy Hunt talking about how the UK and Saudi Arabia's "friendship" is built on "shared values". There's no fucker in a position that counts who's remotely prepared to say a bad word about them, it's infuriating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elisarcabrera Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 If they do drop the show, i wonder if it’s possible of the bigger uk house shows might become a replacement show , albeit without the bigger names? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted October 12, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2018 I cant see them pulling out of this. Blood money has never stopped them before. Try as they might, this will always be a carny promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Kat Von D Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Well if they pull out not only will they lose a load of money, but that will be a clear case of them making a political stand which would implicate multiple people within the company. Are they contractually obligated to provide more shows over there or will they be able to just not go back? They could maybe ghost them a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, UK Kat Von D said: Well if they pull out not only will they lose a load of money, but that will be a clear case of them making a political stand which would implicate multiple people within the company. Are they contractually obligated to provide more shows over there or will they be able to just not go back? They could maybe ghost them a bit Ten year arrangement isn't it? Not sure how legally binding the deal is mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Zeb Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 hours ago, BomberPat said: I was wondering about that. I've cancelled my Network subscription - partly because I felt I couldn't in good faith complain about the Saudi Arabia shows while still paying for them - but these shows are completely bought up front, right? If the Saudi royal family are giving WWE tens of millions of dollars, and they're happy to downgrade to a much smaller arena, the gate obviously doesn't matter to them, and I can't imagine Network subscriptions do either. When it's all paid for already, do people's Network fees even make a difference? What I meant was that if WWE's audience still appears willing to watch the event, then it will be taken as approval of the partnership and therefore WWE needn't worry about losing customers going forward. The important money for this particular show might not depend on Network subs but they'll be trying to assess the knock-on effect of this controversy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfoote Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I don't think they will pull out unless US start throwing sanctions around. Even then, I'm sure they will be able to dodge them, McMahon in the cabinet and everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Kat Von D Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bohan said: Ten year arrangement isn't it? Not sure how legally binding the deal is mind Yeah but are they required to provide a certain amount of events per year over that ten years? If they have a penalty fee for pulling out from the deal they might not be able to afford to without going bankrupt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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