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When exactly did the far-right realise there's money to be had from Israel? I do remember a connection during the days when the BNP actually had some kind of presence but that seemed miniscule at best.

Speaking of Manchester, the guys who put on the 0161 Festival also put on walking tours and there's one next month https://www.facebook.com/events/1346949225434956/

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On 9/29/2018 at 12:38 AM, Keith Houchen said:

And fuck anyone who says fascist and anti fascist are the same, they fucking aren't.

Obviously they aren't the same from an ideological point of view, that's blatantly clear. What I'm talking about are the people who are at the top of the tree and who thrive on division and hatred below them. 

They fund it (in many cases both sides of it) and see the whole situation as a way to exploit people for their own ends. Look at now former Tory Parliamentary candidate Afzal Amin.

Why do you think these far-right "street soldiers" have the views that they do? They aren't born with them, that's for sure. They get them from the media for the most part. The slow drip from the likes of the Daily Mail and other publications that spout nonsense about immigrants and their untold riches from our Government while the "average geezer/ex-soldier/pensioner" all have to live on fuck all.

The Daily Mail, run by Jonathan Harmsworth, 4th Viscount Rothermere, who's great-grandfather Harold Sidney Harmsworth, 1st Viscount Rothermere started the publication.

Harmsworth was a supporter of Nazi Germany, being convinced that the Nazis would help restore the German monarchy. He actively tried to promote British support for Germany via his media platform, personally writing an editorial titled "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" or something similar, which praised Oswald Mosley for his "sound, commonsense, Conservative doctrine."

This prick referred to Hitler as "Adolf the Great" and was paying German spies, yet what happened to him when all of this came to light? Fuck all. His family still play a large part in what the British population sees and reads every day.

His fortune was built on right-wing hatred, and continues as such. 

On 9/29/2018 at 11:47 AM, Loki said:

WW2 was about a lot of things, including some cynical politics and territory grabs, but it was also in large part about confronting fascism in the flesh - totalitarian regimes that promoted horrific war crimes, oppressed their populations and trampled over the sovereignty of other nations.

Yeah, but who was it that was actually confronting fascism "in the flesh" though? It certainly wasn't the higher ups, was it? No, it was the poor sods at the bottom of the ladder who were handed a gun and tossed into the battle field (many of them by force).

Anyone who thinks that Britain and Churchill (what a character he was, by the way) took this stand against Hitler because they stood atop some moral high ground aren't looking at the whole picture.

Britain and the US didn't have a problem with Hitler and his beliefs. They had a problem with him gaining too much power and becoming a threat to their power. Ol' Churchy wasn't exactly an anti-fascist friend to minorities. He was a grade A racist cunt.

I've heard it said that we got involved in the war because we respected our treaty with Poland and "did the right thing." 

If that's the case, then why didn't we wage all-out war against the Soviets as well? They invaded eastern Poland, didn't they? It's bollocks, if Germany hadn't gotten too ambitious they'd have been left well alone by us and we'd have continued to tolerate them, as we had done.

On 9/29/2018 at 11:58 AM, Merzbow said:

Where the fuck are my Soros-bucks, David?

You're a nobody. You don't get the bucks, they're saved for people with influence and who can whip the nobodies up into a rage. You're as entitled to the bucks as big Frank the Millwall fan who heads off to a football casuals united rally with his union jack flag and a couple of cans.

It's those who organise said rallies and agitate that get the cash and backing.

And if, by chance, you are someone with influence, why not try going after the the likes of Viscount Rothermere with as much gusto as you do Tommy Robinson? Exposing a small-level racist creep as being a racist creep isn't going to put an end to him and his ilk. You jail him and another pops up in his place.

Go after the cunts at the top who put the ideas in front of these twats on a daily basis as they eat their breakfast. That's probably going to be more effective.

Until then the anti-fascists are effectively fighting a leak in a boat by throwing water over the sides instead of trying to plug the actual leak itself.

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Further to my post above, it seems that little Tommy has the backing of some pretty influential people.

Sam Brownback, a former US Senator and now US Ambassador for International Religious Freedom who is heavily backed by the Trump administration apparently raised Robinson's recent legal issues with the British Ambassador in Washington, questioning Robinson's jailing and pressing for his release. 

Brownback told the British Ambassador that if Britain did not treat Robinson more sympathetically, the Trump administration might be compelled to criticize Britain’s handling of the case.

The meeting was held in late July, and Robinson was released from prison on August 1st on bail, with the Court of Appeal breaking protocol by agreeing to hear Robinson's appeal despite the legal deadline for appeals having already passed in his case.

On November 1st Robinson was released from bail, after which he was invited by six US Congressmen to speak at a private meeting in Congress.

This Sam Brownback fella is an interesting one as well, with his various campaigns being founded by the Koch family, who in turn run the Cato Institute. The Cato Institute opposes minimum wage laws, opposes child labor prohibition, opposes public sector unions, opposes universal healthcare, and calls for the complete abolition of the welfare state.

The Cato Institute has sponsorship deals with FedEx and Google.

The Koch family raised $800 million in "donations" during the 2016 US elections, and have funnelled around $100 million to the Tea Party. The family business, run by two of the brothers, is the second largest privately-owned company in the US, dealing in crude oil and gasoline.

Interesting to see that Robinson is slowly making moves into the political world with UKIP now as well, and I shudder to think where he'll be in a year or two if this Brexit vote is redone and overturned. The ingredients are all there for shit to get far more nasty than we've seen up to this point, especially if he's being backed by the people mentioned above.

It all honesty reads like a storyline from House of Cards.

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I'm not buying that.  His jailing this year was littered with procedural errors so it was always going to get overturned. As for UKIP, Farage has quit them over Yaxley Lennon being allowed to join despite it breaking their own rules. And let's face it, Farage was why people voted UKIP, as soon as he starts his new party that's where they'll all go and UKIP will become even more irrelevant. 

Remember Milo? Since he got universally no platformed he has become bankrupt. Tinpot Tommeh will go the same way as Britain First once all of his social media presence is gone, PayPal banning him has been a big start.

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13 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said:

Remember Milo? Since he got universally no platformed he has become bankrupt. Tinpot Tommeh will go the same way as Britain First once all of his social media presence is gone, PayPal banning him has been a big start.

Glorious news...these parasites that have outrageous and offensive opinions for money need to fuck off.  Hopefully the likes of Hopkins, Pietersen and Shapiro fuck off with the cunt.

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3 minutes ago, Dolph Pigglers said:

Glorious news...these parasites that have outrageous and offensive opinions for money need to fuck off.  Hopefully the likes of Hopkins, Pietersen and Shapiro fuck off with the cunt.

Hopkins is penniless. She entered an IVA to avoid bankruptcy. It's out and out proof that no platforming works for these confrontational opinions for money berks. 

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7 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said:

I'm not buying that.

You don't need to buy anything, regardless of why he was released the fact is that a former US Senator with the kind of sway that sees him get a sit-down with the British Ambassador to the United States was fighting his corner. Less than 10 days after that meeting Robinson was free, with the Court of Appeal breaking protocol by agreeing to hear Robinson's appeal despite the legal deadline for appeals having already passed in his case.

None of what I posted was my opinion, those are all facts.

For a chav from Luton he's certainly looking like someone who's making friends in the right places, what with him being invited to deliver a talk in Congress, and there's no real doubt that he's being financed by some pretty wealthy people.

Not sure the same could said for Milo to be honest.

 

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My point was he'd have been freed regardless of who was in his corner because the law wasn't adhered to in his sentencing. His appeal went in on the same day he went down and was freed because of procedural errors. 

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I guess we'll see what happens over the next year or so then, but you'd think the left would learn that palming off the far-right and those who are fronting it as a joke usually doesn't end well.

I recall all the chortling among the educated masses in the lead up to the US elections when Trump was obviously going to lose because he was a misogynistic cunt with no redeemable qualities.

The laughing only stopped when it was too late and the fucker had only gone and won the fucking thing.

Same with Brexit. There's no way the majority will vote for daft Boris and Nige with his bus!

I remember an old Socialist Labour Party member who was mates with my old fella saying "the enemy of the left isn't the far-right, it's our own sense of superiority and dismissal of what working people around us are actually thinking and saying."

He wasn't a "proper leftie" like the students of today, he was a shop floor union rep who worked in the steel industry who'd likely never read a word of anything written by a Russian or worn a Che t-shirt, so maybe he didn't know what he was talking about.

Then again, the success of the left kind of backs up what he said.

Let's hope Tommeh is a joke, and that all of the connections I mentioned are just coincidence and he winds up selling matchday programmes outside Luton's ground. While living in a bin.

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